Janet was just around longer, but didn't outsell Mariah at anytime though she could have. Having said that, this list is just a push to sell Mariah's flop album.

I would have been embarrassed to print my name on the byline of that article.

alphastreet said:

BlackCat1985 said:

alphastreet said:

Janet was just around longer, but didn't outsell Mariah at anytime though she could have. Having said that, this list is just a push to sell Mariah's flop album.

Had Janet put out more albums in the 90's I definitely think that she would have had a shot at out selling MC. To be named the 2nd biggest artist of the 90's is pretty damn impressive when you consider the fact that she (Janet) only put out 2 albums that whole decade. I like some of Mariah's music don't get me wrong, but putting her above all of those other better artist is ludacris.

She was NOT the second biggest seller of the 90's, though she was in the top 5 best selling females of the 90's. Celine and Whitney were definitely ahead of her. Would have been great and deserving though. I love Mariah too and have almost all her albums, but always thought she acted tacky about numbers and a few other things.

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alphastreet said:

BlackCat1985 said:

alphastreet said: Had Janet put out more albums in the 90's I definitely think that she would have had a shot at out selling MC. To be named the 2nd biggest artist of the 90's is pretty damn impressive when you consider the fact that she (Janet) only put out 2 albums that whole decade. I like some of Mariah's music don't get me wrong, but putting her above all of those other better artist is ludacris.

She was NOT the second biggest seller of the 90's, though she was in the top 5 best selling females of the 90's. Celine and Whitney were definitely ahead of her. Would have been great and deserving though. I love Mariah too and have almost all her albums, but always thought she acted tacky about numbers and a few other things.

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billboard named janet the 2nd biggest artist of the 90s behind mariah, they dont just base it on sales.they include chart success as well.rhythm nation was technically released in89 but they included it for the 90s since it was still huge up to 91. mariah put out like 8 albums in the 90s alone.

3000 said:

Billboard is not the official sLes tracker, sources like the RIAA and IFPI do that. Mariah has 2 diamond has albums

if billboard is not the offcial 'bible' of the industry we can throw out all those #1 singles mariah has and her breaking the beatles record is null and void because it comes from the billboard charts.the RIAA does certifications, the label or artist pays to have their records certified...if sony shipped 10 million copies of a mariah album and paid to have it certified,guess what,they gonna certify it. soundscan tracks the actual sales and reports to billboard,thats how the hot 200 chart is determined.

saying billboard is not official is a contradiction on your part since this thread declaring mariah #1 is based on a billboard list.

lowkey said:

lowkey said:

3000 said:

lowkey said:

look it up where? my info comes from billboard magazine, you know, the same source you are using for mariah stats. the only artist since 2001 with 2 diamond albums is eminim, celine and brittney came close,they each have 1 diamond and another albumthat sold over 9 million, i guess that makes them both bigger than mariah huh. mariah has 2 albums in the top 100, daydream sold like 7.6 and music box 7.2.its not hard to find this list, just type in billboard's top selling albums since soundscan. now if mariah has 2 diamond albums she got them before march 1991.

Sorry you're wrong, Diamond means a certification issued by the RIAA, not the sales number reported by Nielsen SoundScan. Mariah's Music Box & Daydream are both certified Diamond for their shipments. SoundScan did not cover the complete market back in the 1990s, this is why there is a discrepancy between the certification and the reported sales number. It's a misconception that Sony "overshipped" her albums to score certifications. Other 1990s blockbusters, such as TLC's CrazySexyCool or Jewel's Pieces Of You are both reported to be in the 7.5 million sales range just like Mariah's two efforts by SoundScan but they are certified for 11x and 12x Platinum, respectively.

LiveToTell86 said:

lowkey said:

Sorry you're wrong, Diamond means a certification issued by the RIAA, not the sales number reported by Nielsen SoundScan. Mariah's Music Box & Daydream are both certified Diamond for their shipments. SoundScan did not cover the complete market back in the 1990s, this is why there is a discrepancy between the certification and the reported sales number. It's a misconception that Sony "overshipped" her albums to score certifications. Other 1990s blockbusters, such as TLC's CrazySexyCool or Jewel's Pieces Of You are both reported to be in the 7.5 million sales range just like Mariah's two efforts by SoundScan but they are certified for 11x and 12x Platinum, respectively.

ok

Well she has had a lot of big hits and she has an amazing voice. I like her. She has consistentcy too and a blow your head off vocal range.

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Stop hating

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Adorecream said:

MotownSubdivision said:

Adorecream said:

Well she has had a lot of big hits and she has an amazing voice. I like her. She has consistentcy too and a blow your head off vocal range.

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Stop hating

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Still doesn't mean she's a bigger star than the people she topped on the list. Why can't she simply be an excellent singer who had a lot of hits without trying to make her sound bigger than she really is?

Because she is the alpha and the omega. Bow to her greatness.


OK, I'm just kidding about bowing to her greatness, but she was most definitely the biggest music star of the 1990's, though she didn't necessarily have the biggest hit (Whitney Houston) or was the most influential artist (Nirvana, 2Pac). She faltered a little bit in the 2000's but was still huge thanks to her Mimi album. Nevertheless, times change and younger people have their own heroes to look up to (2000-2007: Beyonce, Britney Spears, Christina Aguilera, Alicia Keys; 2008-present: Rihanna, Lady GaGa, Katy Perry, Taylor Swift), and older artists like Mariah are looked at as their parents' heroes.

Having said that, it appears the Lambs are spinning her legacy to make sure people remember her, just like Madonna's fans did in the 2000's. As for other divas, we may talk about Janet Jackson a lot here, but she barely registers as a blip with younger audiences. Whitney Houston is that lady with the huge monster hit love song that did too many drugs and ultimately died, Celine Dion is that lady who does Vegas shows, and Christina Aguilera was that judge on The Voice. And don't even ask young people today about the Beatles, Motown, or the original Woodstock artists; that's for people in nursing homes.

728huey said:

MotownSubdivision said:

Adorecream said: Still doesn't mean she's a bigger star than the people she topped on the list. Why can't she simply be an excellent singer who had a lot of hits without trying to make her sound bigger than she really is?

Because she is the alpha and the omega. Bow to her greatness.


OK, I'm just kidding about bowing to her greatness, but she was most definitely the biggest music star of the 1990's, though she didn't necessarily have the biggest hit (Whitney Houston) or was the most influential artist (Nirvana, 2Pac). She faltered a little bit in the 2000's but was still huge thanks to her Mimi album. Nevertheless, times change and younger people have their own heroes to look up to (2000-2007: Beyonce, Britney Spears, Christina Aguilera, Alicia Keys; 2008-present: Rihanna, Lady GaGa, Katy Perry, Taylor Swift), and older artists like Mariah are looked at as their parents' heroes.

Having said that, it appears the Lambs are spinning her legacy to make sure people remember her, just like Madonna's fans did in the 2000's. As for other divas, we may talk about Janet Jackson a lot here, but she barely registers as a blip with younger audiences. Whitney Houston is that lady with the huge monster hit love song that did too many drugs and ultimately died, Celine Dion is that lady who does Vegas shows, and Christina Aguilera was that judge on The Voice. And don't even ask young people today about the Beatles, Motown, or the original Woodstock artists; that's for people in nursing homes.

I disagree with this. She was without a doubt, the biggest album seller with the most hits of the 90's but calling her the BIGGEST ACT of the 90's is an exaggeration. I think it is fair to call her one of the biggests acts. Mariah's problem is outside of her sells and her vocals, she doesn't have that much influence. Her disography hasn't aged well and despite her sells/hits she doesnt really have alot of classics which is why her past hits really don't mean anything now.

Janet has alot more influence than her even with the younger audience today. People really underestimate Janet's influence. Just because someone is not visible does not mean they are not influential.

mjscarousal said:

728huey said:

Because she is the alpha and the omega. Bow to her greatness.


OK, I'm just kidding about bowing to her greatness, but she was most definitely the biggest music star of the 1990's, though she didn't necessarily have the biggest hit (Whitney Houston) or was the most influential artist (Nirvana, 2Pac). She faltered a little bit in the 2000's but was still huge thanks to her Mimi album. Nevertheless, times change and younger people have their own heroes to look up to (2000-2007: Beyonce, Britney Spears, Christina Aguilera, Alicia Keys; 2008-present: Rihanna, Lady GaGa, Katy Perry, Taylor Swift), and older artists like Mariah are looked at as their parents' heroes.

Having said that, it appears the Lambs are spinning her legacy to make sure people remember her, just like Madonna's fans did in the 2000's. As for other divas, we may talk about Janet Jackson a lot here, but she barely registers as a blip with younger audiences. Whitney Houston is that lady with the huge monster hit love song that did too many drugs and ultimately died, Celine Dion is that lady who does Vegas shows, and Christina Aguilera was that judge on The Voice. And don't even ask young people today about the Beatles, Motown, or the original Woodstock artists; that's for people in nursing homes.

I disagree with this. She was without a doubt, the biggest album seller with the most hits of the 90's but calling her the BIGGEST ACT of the 90's is an exaggeration. I think it is fair to call her one of the biggests acts. Mariah's problem is outside of her sells and her vocals, she doesn't have that much influence. Her disography hasn't aged well and despite her sells/hits she doesnt really have alot of classics which is why her past hits really don't mean anything now.

Janet has alot more influence than her even with the younger audience today. People really underestimate Janet's influence. Just because someone is not visible does not mean they are not influential.

young artists today are still talking about janet,i dont know what that person was talking about when they said younger people dont know who janet is or whatever.i actually see more young artists mention janet as an influence than the other females mentioned here.

lowkey said: