There are so many things wrong that I don't know where 2 begin.

I will just go with this one, if an artist can't sing in Tune & Pitch in a live situation,

they have no business making records.

If they can't rap about anything but the N word, clubs and hoes, they have no business making records.

If a so called producer can't create anything but samples of another artists work, they have no business making records.

MotownSubdivision said:

Out of the many scruples I have with today's music scene, my most hated element of it is the marketing and promoting of new artists as the second coming of the legends and icons from music past. -Justin Timberlake is the new Michael Jackson! -Ariana Grande is the new Mariah Carey! -Robin Thicke is the new Marvin Gaye! ...simply due to similarities in style or careers. It displays a complete and utter lack of originality/ creativity and a display of laziness as the industry relies on the star power of the older artists to put over the newer artists and failing miserably when people see that the "reincarnations" are nowhere near the level of the stars they're beimg compared to and thus, garner a dislike feom many people who don't drink the properly made Kool Aid that the industry hands out. Not only that but the constant and exaggerated comparisons simply make people want to listen to the older artists more, disenfranchising more people with today's music scene. What grinds your gears the most about the music industry today?

Robin Thicke is the new Marvin Gaye , that's a insult to Marvin Gaye if the industry thinks that

SirComeSpection said:

There are so many things wrong that I don't know where 2 begin.

I will just go with this one, if an artist can't sing in Tune & Pitch in a live situation,

they have no business making records.

If they can't rap about anything but the N word, clubs and hoes, they have no business making records.

If a so called producer can't create anything but samples of another artists work, they have no business making records.

Yep.

Hyping up the image of oversexed, overrated, no talent assclowns while real artists are forced to release records independently.

Beautifulstarr123 said:

Lockwood88 said:

missfee said:

AGEISM. It's sad that no matter how great of a singer or performer you are if you're not 20-something or younger you have no hope of getting played on the radio or supported by a major label. Exceptions, of course, being if you started young and are making some sort of comeback. But if you're 40-something and finaly decide that you have time to devote to your music you might as well forget about it. You're already way too old.

How much time do I have to bitch? I hate how black/urban radio has reduced itself to bullshit music! There is no diversity of artists whatsoever. In a perfect world, I could hear some Eric Roberson, Angela Johnson, or Omar on my local station. It's like program and music directors are afraid to branch out and I get so tired of hearing the same 5-10 artists on a daily basis! Not to mention, can black/urban radio dig a bit deeper? George Clinton had more songs than "Atomic Dog" and "Flash Light!"

dannyd5050 said:

AGEISM. It's sad that no matter how great of a singer or performer you are if you're not 20-something or younger you have no hope of getting played on the radio or supported by a major label. Exceptions, of course, being if you started young and are making some sort of comeback. But if you're 40-something and finaly decide that you have time to devote to your music you might as well forget about it. You're already way too old.

Yeah, this

thesoulbrother said:

How much time do I have to bitch? I hate how black/urban radio has reduced itself to bullshit music! There is no diversity of artists whatsoever. In a perfect world, I could hear some Eric Roberson, Angela Johnson, or Omar on my local station. It's like program and music directors are afraid to branch out and I get so tired of hearing the same 5-10 artists on a daily basis! Not to mention, can black/urban radio dig a bit deeper? George Clinton had more songs than "Atomic Dog" and "Flash Light!"

Yeah, this X 2!

missfee said:

Hyping up the image of oversexed, overrated, no talent assclowns while real artists are forced to release records independently.

To a certain degree, the labels are looking for people who will just go along with the program. If you think about it, they could plug just about any singer into a katy Perry/Ariana Grande/whoever song and very little about it would change.

Real artists usually CARE about their art, which isn't to say Katy Perry doesn't, but she's the face of a product that an entire TEAM of people put together and could STILL have put together without her. Most of the more successful artists these ddays are people who just said "yes" when the label said they wanted to do this. It's not to say they aren't talented, but a guy like Bob Dylan couldn't make it today 1. because there's no format for what he does, and 2. He's a notoriously difficult person, and those types of folks don't often make it unless they're just so fucking good they're undeniable, and even people who ARE that good, it's a tough thing.

MotownSubdivision said:

missfee said:

Hyping up the image of oversexed, overrated, no talent assclowns while real artists are forced to release records independently.

Not to mention the severe overrating of artists who would've been fodder from the 60s-80s to the point that they are supposedly our current top stars. The bar has been so insultingly lowered for what makes a "star" these days.

So true.

missfee said:

Women who claim to be feminist with their tits and ass sticking out. If you wanted to have control of your body youd be wearing whats comfortable not a leather corset that drips of every mans sexual fantasy.

Oh and the old "change a word and claim a third" songwriting credit bullshit.

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The whole idea of having a rapper appear with a singer a track.This is something that R&B artists began doing in the late 80s,but by now,it's played out! EVERY FREAKIN' SONG DOES NOT NEED A RAP ON IT! There are some artists (Mariah Carey comes to mind) who seem to be obesessed with doing this.

BlackSweat86 said:

SoulAlive said:

MotownSubdivision said:

SoulAlive said:

The whole idea of having a rapper appear with a singer a track.This is something that R&B artists began doing in the late 80s,but by now,it's played out! EVERY FREAKIN' SONG DOES NOT NEED A RAP ON IT! There are some artists (Mariah Carey comes to mind) who seem to be obesessed with doing this.

You bring up a good one though I'll expand upon that and say that features in general have been reduced to a crutch. Can artists make a song or album without a guest verse from someone else anymore? Features can still be pretty good and help a song depending on the artists involved/ their combined delivery but overall, it's features for the sake of features if it's not just a way to ride the gravy train of whatever artist is hot at the time.

Stuff like that can be good, but it's usually used as little more than a promotional tool. Tim McGraw and Kenny Chesney did this relatively forgettable song together and it got radio play, but the purpose of it was basically to promote their upcoming tour together.

thesoulbrother said:

How much time do I have to bitch? I hate how black/urban radio has reduced itself to bullshit music! There is no diversity of artists whatsoever. In a perfect world, I could hear some Eric Roberson, Angela Johnson, or Omar on my local station. It's like program and music directors are afraid to branch out and I get so tired of hearing the same 5-10 artists on a daily basis! Not

to mention, can black/urban radio dig a bit deeper? George Clinton had more songs than "Atomic Dog" and "Flash Light!

This is my biggest pet peeve with the two "Old School" radio stations we have here in Philly, they play the same songs all day and all night, god forbid they actually play some album cuts by these artist.

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The refusal to let shit hop die completely altogether. It has dominated since the 1990s. Nothing has really changed since then. The changes that have occured haven't been changes in music altogether, just simply changes to shit hop. Move on to something else completely and erase all influences of shit hop from new music as if shit hop never existed in the first place.

MotownSubdivision said:

missfee said:

Hyping up the image of oversexed, overrated, no talent assclowns while real artists are forced to release records independently.

Not to mention the severe overrating of artists who would've been fodder from the 60s-80s to the point that they are supposedly our current top stars. The bar has been so insultingly lowered for what makes a "star" these days.

You both said it perfectly. e.g. In my mind, Maroon 5/Adam Levine should have been "here today gone tomorrow" ten years ago.

vainandy said:

The refusal to let shit hop die completely altogether. It has dominated since the 1990s. Nothing has really changed since then. The changes that have occured haven't been changes in music altogether, just simply changes to shit hop. Move on to something else completely and erase all influences of shit hop from new music as if shit hop never existed in the first place.

I think we can agree that the pet peeve would simply be "the disappearance of funk". If Funk didn't disappear then we wouldn't be so mad at other forms of R&B or Hip Hop.

Cinny said:

vainandy said:

The refusal to let shit hop die completely altogether. It has dominated since the 1990s. Nothing has really changed since then. The changes that have occured haven't been changes in music altogether, just simply changes to shit hop. Move on to something else completely and erase all influences of shit hop from new music as if shit hop never existed in the first place.

I think we can agree that the pet peeve would simply be "the disappearance of funk". If Funk didn't disappear then we wouldn't be so mad at other forms of R&B or Hip Hop.

Very true. I'm all for "live and let live" but when something kills everything else off, I'm for killing the killer off.

That "he's the new..../she's the next...." is only temporary, and is usually taken as a compliment in the very first years of somebody's career. You see people calling JT the next MJ, they never called him that in his previous era... that was back in 2004 when he used to imitate MJ's moves as an upcoming R&B artist who just ditched the teen pop image and jumped on the bandwagon to have people look at him seriously.. Bruno got that HELL OF A MUCH last year, every interview he did mentioned him as the reincarnation of Michael... you'll see people getting over that (now that he established himself as a mega-superstar after the Superbowl) in the next years.. and the next MJ title will go to another one!

vainandy said:

SoulAlive said:

The whole idea of having a rapper appear with a singer a track.This is something that R&B artists began doing in the late 80s,but by now,it's played out! EVERY FREAKIN' SONG DOES NOT NEED A RAP ON IT! There are some artists (Mariah Carey comes to mind) who seem to be obesessed with doing this.

Very true. It smacks of a simple lack of songcraft. Instead of composing an actual "BRIDGE" for a song, or some kind of interesting change, they hire a crapper to add a verse.

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Ageicist-Made up term-Prejudice against old people like over 30

I was watching VH1 classic,I DVR the 80s music collection and it's filled with older people.I saw a Don Henley and Hall and Oates videos,songs i also liked and these dudes were already well in to their 30s.It was common themed,I mean Lionel Richie and Phil Collins also got ton of videoplay.

Now the artist and the music is so yuckie and cookie cutter,Disney like themed.Yuck.