Justin is racist against black people because he called a white woman a ninja.

Madonna is racist against black people because she referred to her white son as "nigga."

TonyVanDam said:

"Ninja" is NOT a racial slur.

but there are some people who insist that "ninja" really means the N word it's absurd,isn't it?

duccichucka said:

SoulAlive said:

what exactly is he "getting away it"? If that word is so offensive,then it shouldn't be okay for anyone to use it.But anyway,he didn't use that word.He used the word "ninja".

I don't really follow your reply. But the media did not make a big deal out of the fact that

Justin Timberlake used "ninja," which is internet-code for "nigga." The media, I'm surmising

didn't make it a big deal because either they don't know how Timberlake was using the word

"ninja" and aren't privy to that knowledge, or, Timberlake is, as BK pointed out, a pretty

whiteboy who can sing, and therefore, gets a pass.

And I disagree with you: white people should feel embarassed to use the word "nigga" and all

of its derivatives, and ought to not use it while Blacks, and rightfully so, have expropriated its

use. If you don't like this, then I suggest you create a time machine and go back and wipe

out all American slave trading practices. I support Black people's use of the word. White

people cannot use it, or its derivatives, with impunity.

If that word is really as offensive as you claim,then you shouldn't support anybody going around and saying it.To me,that word has no power anymore.It's meaningless.I even hear young Asian teenagers using that term ("that's my nigga" is a common phrase in my area).I'm not saying that this is OK,but it's a sign of the times.

2freaky4church1 said:

Madonna is a racist, I do know that.

Chancellor said:

.As for Timberlake he was only doing what Pop Culture is doing. No he's not a Racist. Hip-Hop has turned the "N" word into something else and made it okay for White people to say it freely.

I agree I also think it's silly and ridiculous to automatically assume that a white person is "racist" simply because they use that term.There are plenty of real racists in the world that people should be concerned about (look what's going on in Ferguson,Missouri).White pop/R&B stars who use the 'N' word is a non-story.

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TonyVanDam said:

This is a new one for me. I can never watch a martial arts film from the 1980's with ninjas the same way again like I used to because "ninja" is coded for "n***a" in 2014.

The word "boy" is also a very innocent & popular word...Here in America when a non-person of Color uses it in a negative way to describe a Black Man it becomes a racial slur. It's all about the content the word is used in and who takes offense to it. Sad but true. I'm sure you use the words boy & ninja as they were meant to be used.

SoulAlive said:

I agree I also think it's silly and ridiculous to automatically assume that a white person is "racist" simply because they use that term.There are plenty of real racists in the world that people should be concerned about (look what's going on in Ferguson,Missouri).White pop/R&B stars who use the 'N' word is a non-story.

I agree with you 1,000%!!!!

I feel like some people get off on accusing celebrities of being a racist.. or something else that's publically detested. People need to grow up and pay attention to issues of real importance. Jt mimicking a word repeated millions of times on the media daily is about as important as me wanting to yawn and scratch my balls right now.

Chancellor said:

TonyVanDam said:

This is a new one for me. I can never watch a martial arts film from the 1980's with ninjas the same way again like I used to because "ninja" is coded for "n***a" in 2014.

The word "boy" is also a very innocent & popular word...Here in America when a non-person of Color uses it in a negative way to describe a Black Man it becomes a racial slur. It's all about the content the word is used in and who takes offense to it. Sad but true. I'm sure you use the words boy & ninja as they were meant to be used.

Being that I'm from the south (Louisiana born, currently Arkansas living), I know about how the word "boy" is used all too well. The pharse "big boy" is used plenty. But I don't trust those MFers in Mississippi or Alabama when they say it.

SoulAlive said:

TonyVanDam said:

"Ninja" is NOT a racial slur.

but there are some people who insist that "ninja" really means the N word it's absurd,isn't it?

At this point, I cannot even watch a martial arts action film anymore because of THIS damn thread!

I know this won't be popular but at some point you have to blame hip hop and the black community for this travesty. As someone said the cavalier use of the word has made it hip and cool to say in public, to the point that you have non-racist white people defending the use of the word. Now I don't see Polish people selling the word "poll%ck" in records and on TV. Or spanish people selling the word "sp!c". Yet we have media corporations backing, and black artist creating, content the regularily uses a racial slur when it comes down to it. Sure a group can appropriate a word and turn it on its head. But it seems only the black community is willing to boast it in public. Or use the word in mixed company.

Now this ninja nonsense seems silly, yet if it is itself an appropriation of the word n!gga, and EVERYBODY knows it (I admit ignorance of the phenomena), then only the most liberal of hearts can deem that OK.

No I don't think Justin Timberlake is a racist. But he sure wants to be cool...

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SoulAlive said:

duccichucka said:

I don't really follow your reply. But the media did not make a big deal out of the fact that

Justin Timberlake used "ninja," which is internet-code for "nigga." The media, I'm surmising

didn't make it a big deal because either they don't know how Timberlake was using the word

"ninja" and aren't privy to that knowledge, or, Timberlake is, as BK pointed out, a pretty

whiteboy who can sing, and therefore, gets a pass.

And I disagree with you: white people should feel embarassed to use the word "nigga" and all

of its derivatives, and ought to not use it while Blacks, and rightfully so, have expropriated its

use. If you don't like this, then I suggest you create a time machine and go back and wipe

out all American slave trading practices. I support Black people's use of the word. White

people cannot use it, or its derivatives, with impunity.

If that word is really as offensive as you claim,then you shouldn't support anybody going around and saying it.To me,that word has no power anymore.It's meaningless.I even hear young Asian teenagers using that term ("that's my nigga" is a common phrase in my area).I'm not saying that this is OK,but it's a sign of the times.

Just because a word is offensive does not mean that it shouldn't be used by anybody. It is all

about context, Soul. In the context of a Black American calling another Black American a

"nigga" as a term of endearment, I think the use is permissible. It is naive to think the word

has no power, however. Go to Harlem and call a Black American a "nigger" and if you're a

White American, you can expect a physical or verbal beat down.

The fact that Asian Americans use it bothers me. And when I hear young Black males calling

each other that out in public in front of White Americans, it makes uncomfortable. But then

again, I enjoy White Americans being uncomfortable with that word and its derivatives - they

started the entire phenomenon so let them feel queasy about the word, as they are the pro-

genitors of its racist connotations.

Anyways, to strictly get back on topic, Justin Timberlake is not a racist, but he certainly may be

thinking that he gets a "negro pass."

TonyVanDam said:

Being that I'm from the south (Louisiana born, currently Arkansas living), I know about how the word "boy" is used all too well. The pharse "big boy" is used plenty. But I don't trust those MFers in Mississippi or Alabama when they say it.

..LOL...I'm a pure-blood Southerner in South Carolina and the weirdest thing I've expereinced is hearing a White Friend or Coworker tell me about the "Black" person living in their area or whatever. I think that's strange because why is it important for me to know that you had a conversation with your "Black" neighbor about nothing? Maybe it's just a Southern thing that I don't get..

Anyways, to strictly get back on topic, Justin Timberlake is not a racist, but he certainly may be

thinking that he gets a "negro pass."

That's pretty much my take on it. That's a possible outcome when you nominate dudes like that for Image Awards.

PC ultra sensitive people/lame ass media organizations need to shut the fuck up with this shit.

What if Madonna likes swords, stars, and black dogi outfits? What if she and Justin like to travel by wall jumping? Truly then she WOULD be his ninja.

Is Justin or any of these other celebs racist? I dont know but Im sure they only mess with "The new blacks"

I'm on a mission "to make cracker happen"

full cultural saturation of the term.

I wanna hear "cracker" in songs pumping through the stereos of suburbia.

"Crackers in Cairo"

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If he wanted to be really dope he would of wished "His favourite cracker, a happy birthday"

I'm getting the impression that Madonna herself is used to refer to the people in her inner circle with the "my nigga" phrase.

Justin's worked with her together with Timbaland, right? Sounds like a phrase they were throwing around in the studio while working, or something.

Does Madonna get the hood pass?

this kid always gets a pass

i like him more over the years

"my love" and a ton of nsync shit and "Strawberry Bubblegum" and a couple other JT solo songs are good

but got dam

but this boy never has to pay penance for shit

this thread speaks volumes about what a straight white man considered 'cool' by corporate dollar brand America and the brainwashing that can happen

i still think it's not racist per se; but he never suffers even a slap on the wrist for the bullshit he says and does

if a gay white man or black man or straight woman were in his exact position - or anything other than a 32-33 white straight dude with $$$$$$$$$$$ - i doubt they would get off the hook as easily

i say that as a 32 yo white guy

i'd still hit it

but wow

BlaqueKnight said:

Racist? Nah. Opportunist, appropriator, spineless, disloyal and all out asshole? Yes.

But he's a rich pretty bo who can sing and dance just enough to get byy, so people don't care.

I'm gonna do us all a favor and not comment on this thread since I made my opinion about this dude pretty clear a while back

SoulAlive said:

hausofmoi7 said:

Tuls101 said:

This generation are a humorless bunch of pussies. Everything is so obscenely PC and it's like in the age of social media people have completely lost the ability to put things in context and just immediately fly off the handle. Seriously, anyone offended by this needs to grow a pair.

Basically. The 2010s is like the 1950s flipped upside down in extreme reverse. Now instead of being nauseatingly conservative, you have to be nauseatingly liberal. This is a generation of overly coddled, overly entitled, wimpy, emotionally fragile, PC babies. I'm getting tired of having to pretend to approve of, empathize with, or support every oddball walking down the street with their same sex lover, weird hair, overboard tats, or ridiculous ear gauges. Leave it to black folks to jokingly turn 'Ninja' into the 'fo shizzle' version of Nigga, beat it into the ground, then take offense to it when someone else uses it the exact same way trying to be cool too. I think Justin was silly to say it because it wasn't necessary and because he should have known the potential it had to create the ridiculous reaction that it did, but that doesn't negate that any outrage is plain stupid. Enough is enough.

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Qazz said:

Tuls101 said:

This generation are a humorless bunch of pussies. Everything is so obscenely PC and it's like in the age of social media people have completely lost the ability to put things in context and just immediately fly off the handle. Seriously, anyone offended by this needs to grow a pair.

Basically. The 2010s is like the 1950s flipped upside down in extreme reverse. Now instead of being nauseatingly conservative, you have to be nauseatingly liberal. This is a generation of overly coddled, overly entitled, wimpy, emotionally fragile, PC babies. I'm getting tired of having to pretend to approve of, empathize with, or support every oddball walking down the street with their same sex lover, weird hair, overboard tats, or ridiculous ear gauges. Leave it to black folks to jokingly turn 'Ninja' into the 'fo shizzle' version of Nigga, beat it into the ground, then take offense to it when someone else uses it the exact same way trying to be cool too. I think Justin was silly to say it because it wasn't necessary and because he should have known the potential it had to create the ridiculous reaction that it did, but that doesn't negate that any outrage is plain stupid. Enough is enough.

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Are you putting the use of the N-word on par with someone having tattoos all over their body? Let's get real here. There are too many people who are "offended" that there are people who don't allow themselves to be called derogatory names. People who complain about PC stuff are usually closeted racists themselves. If you aren't the one being racist, what do you care about PC stuff then? It never ceases to amaze me that the main people who keep the so-called PC stuff going are the ones themselves who can't stop talking about it. You're not oppressed because others have the right to put you in check for saying stuff out of the side of your mouth. Should we go back to the good old days of polio when it was perfectly fine to walk down the street and yell slurs at people?

SeventeenDayze said: