Armond White on MJ. Read him.
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The ones cashing in on MJ's fame are the ones painting rosy, whitewashed pictures like his bodyguards. The maids are not writing books or being paid. A small detail none of you seem to have noticed. “The man who never looks into a newspaper is better informed than he who reads them, inasmuch as he who knows nothing is nearer to truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors.”
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No, going to have to disagree.. This recent thing with Wade isn't getting attention because people aren't stupid.. The whole thing is just complete bullshit, he just so happens to "remember" that he was raped right as the jackson family goes to trial with AEG.. Get real. Just like all the others, their stories jump from one extreme to the other, but can never show NOT ONE piece of actual evidence to prove anything. | |
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That's hysterical. First off, the recent story is not Wade. Wade is accuser number 5. I'm talking about accuser number 6, Jimmy Safechuck. I realize it's getting hard to keep up, but really, you can do better than that. Obviously you haven't heard about Jimmy, which makes sense since it's being massively under-reported just like so many other damning facts about MJ (such as his anti-semitic rant in 2005).
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FYI, the maid or maids HAVE been paid to tell these lies and are STILL getting paid. Surely, you know that these are the same maids who said to a grand jury that they had never witnessed anything inappropriate between these accusers and Michael and then went to tabloids and embellished their story and got paid.Surely, you are not that dense and naive to think that these purported maids aren't getting paid to LIE. A small detail that YOU and others like you seem to have conveniently noticed.
As for your assertion of the bodyguards "whitewashing' their story, these guys didn't paint a rosy picture of Michael, they painted him as human, with faults like the rest of us. What you really mean is that they didn't portray him as YOU and others WANTED them to. These guys turned down BIG MONEY because they REFUSED to do what YOU and the media wanted them to do-trash Michael.
I say BULLSHIT to your assertion that the media are Michael's friend. What you should say is that, since Michael's MURDER, that the media is feeling guilty about all of the shit that they spewed about him when he was alive and are trying to rectify that in small steps.Of course, you have ass-wipes like Stacy Brown and his cronies like Diane Dimond, who have no other way to make money than to spew lies about Michael. Have you noticed that no one gives a #$%@ about these people unless they say something about Michael?
As intelligent as you THINK you are, you are sadly ineffective in your attempts of being persuasive. I would mop the floor with you, if we were ever in a debate. Btw, there is fuck way that I would support a person, if I thought that person was an abuser. That is just how sure I am that these accusers are FAKE. That was the reason that a CONSERVATIVE jury didn't believe that punk Arvizzo. Of course, the transcripts, the LACK of evidence and Gavin Arvizzo's OWN words would alert any INTELLIGENT person that he was full of shit. It's all about $$$$$ and until there is proof that these false allegations are true, and I am 1000% sure, that there is NO PROOF, I will continue to support Michael.
Btw, I want CONCRETE proof, and neither you or ANY of these accusers have that because they are lying. FTR, IF there was ANY proof of these allegations, Sneddon would have presented it in court and put Michael in jail. He did everything he could to frame this man, and the bottomline is that he had NO PROOF, NO EVIDENCE. All you have to do is to look at the court transcripts. Don't take my word for it. Finally, Michael fans don't blindly defend him because he is Michael, we defend him because we have researched these allegations from EVERY angle. I have said this many times, you donit have to be a genius to know that Robson and Safechuck are ONLY doing this for $$$$. You sound/portray yourself as quite young. Were you even old enough to follow these allegations from the start? Were you old enough to hear the recording that was released worldwide of the on TV , radio, etc. of Evan Chandler saying that if he went through with these allegations that he would "win big". Of course, being young may not have anything to do with your guillibility. There are also old fools who are too weak and lazy to know the facts. Sadly, you could be one of those people who WANT to believe these allegations because it is Michael being accused or because you have a sickness that causes you to find pleasure in the idea of a child being abused. I sincerely hope that it is the former reasons and not the latter. | |
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Oh boy, someone has forgotten to take his meds. Maybe that's why your memory is failing. You say that you would "mop the floor" with me if we were in a debate, yet you've forgotten we were. You were one of about ten MJ fans who tried to debate me last year when Wade Robson came out and accused MJ of abuse. Here is the thread. The fun starts on page 6 when I step in. After that it's one MJ fan after another unsuccessfully trying to debate me.
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Woah Woah Woah.. I assumed you were talking about Wade because he recently came out with more information on what "happened to him"
As far as Jimmy Safechuck, no i haven't heard much about it.. Thank god.. To say that the media was "pro-MJ" is the farthest thing from the truth.. If Michael Jackson abused children, it would be known, there would be evidence..If Michael Jackson really left Neverland the way the maids claim, dirty, not picking anything up, etc.. Wouldn't there be some type of evidence of abuse? More than 70 officers raided Neverland, doors were broken, matresses slashed open.. Journals, and books, and photos, and videos, taken away in boxloads.. Went through a strip search (which didn't match the accuser's description) MILLIONS of dollars were spent by prosecutors and police departments, two grand juries questioned close to 200 witnesses, including 30 children who knew Michael Jackson, and not ONE corroborating witness could be found. The father of the accuser in a recorded phone call actually acknowledged that the welfare of his son was "irrelevant" he says "There are people involved that are waiting for my phone call that are in certain positions" "I've paid them to do it. Everything is going according to a certain plan that isn't just mine. Once I make that phone call, this guy (attorney Barry Rothman) is going to destroy everybody in sight in any devious, nasty, cruel, way that he can do it. And I've given him full authority to do so. And IF I go through with this, I win big time. There's no way I lose. I've checked that inside out. I will get everything I want, and they will be destroyed forever. Michael's career will be over.. This man is going to be humiliated beyond belief." seriously? I don't see how someone could read that and not think the whole thing was just complete bullshit.. And i'm not even going to bring up the Arvizo case because that thing was so wacky that there's no point. | |
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Yup you are both right. Justine Timberlake's CD was the best selling one of last year with sales of only 2 milllion+ in the USA. Considering that fact, Xscape is doing well. To All the Haters on the Internet
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Tonight, Michael Jackson Will Become the First Person to Premiere a Music Video on Twitter | |
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the reason why it's not "big news" is because it's just another un-proven accusation Unless there is some undeniable proof,it's not gonna amount to anything more.Anyone from MJ's past could come out now and make all types of crazy accusations against him,but it doesn't mean anything. | |
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I wanna see how Jimmy is gonna "prove" beyond a doubt that he was molested.That's what these accusers never seen to have: credibility.It's funny how,now that MJ is not around to defend himself,they suddenly make these charges.How convenient,huh? | |
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You guys are seriously dumb. There is no polite way of saying it. The media report the most inane trivia all the time. They report false stories all the time. They make mountains out of molehills all the time. And yet you're saying the FACT that MJ (still the biggest star in the world, even in death) has now been accused of child abuse by a boy who appeared with him in the iconic Pepsi ad and spent hundreds of hours in bed with him in hotels all around the world is somehow not significant enough for them to cover. You are truly living in la, la land.
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two words: Prove it :lol: If you think MJ was a closet homosexual and child molester,prove it. accusations are just that: accusations. | |
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still waiting for you to "prove" that Michael Jackson was a closeted homosexual and child molester I want some hardcore,unmistakable,undeniable,indisputable PROOF.
It's easy to talk shit about any celebrity,call them names,accuse them of everything from rape to murder,but if you can't prove what you say,then your words don't mean nothing.Hell,even I could lie and say I met Michael Jackson 20 years ago and he touched me inappropriately...lol....see how absurd this is? I could demand $10 million from his estate,too
That's why no one's really paying attention to these new charges.It's all bogus!
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So the Video of "A Place with no Name" was released tonight on Twitter.
https://twitter.com/michaeljackson
[Edited 8/13/14 20:25pm] To All the Haters on the Internet
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I like the first half of the video, how they work shots from In The Closet in and matched it stylistically with the new scenes they filmed. But after that it was a bit meh. Good effort considering there's only so much you can do when the artist is no longer around to film music videos. Good choice for the next single too. Probably the best track on Xscape. | |
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No, it's not that I think MJ was a closet homosexual. It's that YOU think MJ was a closet homosexual. You said it many times. You can't back out of it now. You made it clear that you think that. “The man who never looks into a newspaper is better informed than he who reads them, inasmuch as he who knows nothing is nearer to truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors.”
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Jermaine is right, in my opinion.
http://www.huffingtonpost...75108.html
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The Jacksons suing AEG for cash was completely absurd yet it was widely reported. MJ being accused of abuse by a boy who slept with him hundreds of times is very serious yet it's being ignored. Just like MJ's anti-semitic rant was ignored in 2005. Just like a boy who was paid 2 million dollars hush-money by Jackson in 1996 testifying against him in 2005 was also ignored. Anyone with an IQ above single digits will notice the pattern here.
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Funny that you never mention the 2005 trial,where it was revealed that the boy's mother was a FRAUD who routinely lies,deceives and coaches her children to do the same.She has even filed bogus lawsuits against companies like JC Penneys',trying to get her hands on some big cash.This goes back to what I said earlier.People will lie and say anything,if it means a big payday for them. | |
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Look, as far as the APWNN music video goes, its not bad, But that is not how that should be handled. I'm a fan of xscape, I think the fact that they gave us the original demo's of the songs was the right move. however, releasing music (which MJ did have creative conrol over because he recorded it) is a lot different than releasing a music video after his death. I understand, they paid a lot of money for these songs, and want to make a profit.. But there is so many better ways to go about that. Why not use some in the studio footage or other archival footage the have and make something actually special.. | |
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I forgot they even remixed it for Xscape, so when I went to watch the new video - yuck. | |
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Honestly, I wish the estate would treat MJ's legacy the way the Elvis Presley Estate treats his. Elvis's Estate has the "Follow That Dream Records" which serves as a collectors type label which releases rehearsals, live soundboard recordings, studio outtakes, home demos, concert footage, etc. Thats what should be going on here. I'm probably going to sound like I'm repeating myself but I mean, for the most part, the fans that are buying the recent MJ releases are the dye hards. WE ARE THE TARGET AUDIENCE. Man, there's just so much they could do, from hayvenhurst and neverland demos, to album outtakes, recording sessions footage, live albums. Destiny, Triumph, Victory, Bad, Dangerous, HIStory tours, rehearsal footage, etc... Sometimes I wish they ran things kind of like the NPG music club, you pay so much amount of money monthly/yearly and new things are released throughout the year. That would be perfect. | |
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lol, talk about changing the subject. We're talking about the media's pro-MJ bias here. Your post is cowardly since it completely runs away from the clear evidence I gave of this bias. Do you actually want to address those points? If not then just walk away, but please don't try and change the subject. It's not honourable. “The man who never looks into a newspaper is better informed than he who reads them, inasmuch as he who knows nothing is nearer to truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors.”
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LOL where have you been the past 30 years? There never has been anything like a "pro-MJ bias". The media has destroyed the man. And if one has no honour and should walk away, it's clearly you. | |
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