THIS is the best f***ing Janet thread ever!

Tittypants said:

Real Talk:


Janet ain't shit without Jimmy Jam & Terry Lewis. Take their production away, & Janet "Don't Stand Another Chance".

Have a nice day.

I'm gonna grab some popcorn with Tony, this thread is going to be EPIC now!

TonyVanDam said:

THIS is the best f***ing Janet thread ever!

I agree. It is the only thing keeping the org alive right now.

[Edited 7/29/14 3:32am]

Now for some real talk. I was one of the biggest Janet marks of my generation. But when it comes to her music career, her best days were between the Janet Jackson era of 1982 AND The Velvet Rope era of 1997. Everything else after that is an afterthought for the worst.

I stand by my words.

LazarusHeart said:

Her singing voice is like a 12 year boy's vocal chords being subjected to coat-hanger abortion.

Janet shits on every female pop star but Madonna to whom she is damn near equal. Her influence spans Chris Brown to JT to Beyonce to even Mariah to Paula Abdul to JLo to Britney to basically anyone in the 50 million albums sold club. I don't know why some dumb org troll whores have always had a twist in their tampon about Janet. A woman can be funky and fresh and also rely on some help from some of Prince's former protege's bandmates and so the fuck what? She has to equal or surpass or even be compared to her brother? I'll never get over Janet...the best of the best of the best and the last of showbiz true royalty and probably the most evasive, introverted and intriguing celebrity of all time (to me).

Far as the music goes

1. VR

2. Control

3. RN1814

3. janet.

5. Damita Jo

5. Discipline

7. 20 Y.O.

8. All 4 U

9. Janet Jackson

10. Dream Street

My fave Janet song is Got Til It's Gone. If you don't feel a hump or a something in your something when that shit plays, you don't have a pulse.

lazycrockett said:

It hilarious that Black Cat is getting props, thats one of the worse songs in her discography.

Black Cat deserves to get major props. It's a rock song! Even Motley Crue's Tommy Lee namechecks it as his all-time favorite Janet song.

What about Janet's tribute to Michael at the VMA's a few years ago? Don't you all think that was a good performance?

VoicesCarry said:

It's always amazing to me how quickly Janet's considerable career accomplishments are diminished by what is at its heart a very sexist argument: that she never would have been anything without the men in her life (her brother, or Jam & Lewis, or Rene). I think that's truly unfortunate.

Somehow people forget that it was Janet who fired Joe as her manager and set out on her own path at that time, and that when she made her first two albums, they were the albums that Joe was forcing her to make. Janet's music career became successful when she took the reins and started calling the shots.

With respect to Janet's "survival skills", they're the same skills that have landed her a 35+-year career in showbusiness, with significant success in multiple media. That is not easy, and it didn't happen because of her name, or because of a man - it happened because she's a shrewd businesswoman. Janet built that success, and she owns that herself. If it was as easy as nepotism, everyone would be doing it.

And yes, Janet's commercial decline coincided with weaker ties to Jam & Lewis as a production team. It also coincided with:

i) An incident - the SuperBowl - that really underscored some ugly racism (and sexism) in America, and which, unfortunately, irreversibly damaged public opinion of her. Like Madonna, Janet was a woman who did something controversial - but she was also a black woman, and that carried with it very unique repercussions. There is no comparable circumstance that I can think of - before or since - and it says nothing about her talent that she was not able to recover or bounce back.

ii) Aging (Janet was 37 at the time). Most pop stars, especially female ones, see a natural commercial decline as they age.

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Just THAT^ much!

With all due respect to Adam Levine, he isn't the first male Janet. THAT honor belong to Janet's former brother-in-law, Chico DeBarge!


Talk To Me is a direct rip-off of What Have You Done For Me Lately, even down to the vocal arrangements AND dance moves. That's right fellow orgers, Chico used to look up to his then sister-in-law for inspiration.

SeventeenDayze said:

What about Janet's tribute to Michael at the VMA's a few years ago? Don't you all think that was a good performance?

These days, I do not like to even talk about the MTV VMAs for being the neo-Illuminati Block Party that it has been for the last 5+ years. With that said, Janet's tribute to Michael was still a good moment. I can never say the same thing about everything else that happen during that show.

Tittypants said:

Real Talk:


Janet ain't shit without Jimmy Jam & Terry Lewis. Take their production away, & Janet "Don't Stand Another Chance".

Have a nice day.

...or "Nothing."

Before JJ&TL, Janet's music was a flop and after them her music was a flop.

Without the actual talent of that team all you gonna get are a bunch of random Dream Street sequels from a now middle aged Cleo Hewitt.

[Edited 7/29/14 3:46am]

SEANMAN said:

neko said:

Growing up there were all these big stars. Huge superstars like MJ and Madonna and then the next level down u had ppl like Janet Jackson, Phil Collins, Jeffrey Osborne, Tina Turner and Prince etc etc and I just kinda accepted they all deserved to be where they were and have ppl saying they were good. Now time has passed and gone by it feels like Janet managed to go up a few more steps on the ladder of how ppl look at her as a legend than she deserved to based on her talent. Maybe down to being Michael's sister?

I mean when I go through her albums now I think she doesn't deserve a whole folder on her own. There are just a couple of quite good tracks on Rhythm Nation and that's it so she goes in my Various Singers folder with people like Bobby Brown. Don't Be Cruel is a better album than any of Janet's albums for one example, and he wasn't exactly Mozart or whatever, though Bobby probably danced better because classical music doesn't have videos. I mean when Bobby was younger because now he has to quit the tour because he's old and can't breathe. Anyway I just degreased but my point I'm trying to make is really Janet Jackson wasn't really ever that good if you are honest. What was so great? She lost a lot of weight that one time but so did Oprah.

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[Edited 7/26/14 12:28pm]

I really wasn't in the mood to have to read people today, but you asked for it. You're talking like one of those delusional Janet-hating, Madonna/Beyonce/Mariah/What-Have-You-worshipping cunt stans who just likes to spout stupid shit about Janet for the fun of it, or just to irk her true fans, or whatever the fuck. If not for Janet Jackson, half the pop tarts ruling the charts these days would not even exist. Her legacy is in all of these new girls, as everything they've done, are currently doing and will likely do in the future is something that Janet has already done. It's criminal that the media doesn't give her her proper due, which in turn creates astoundingly stupid ideas like the ones you're spouting about her "lack of" a place in the history of pop music, but her legacy speaks for itself. Just about every female dance/pop act to come out in the past 20 some-odd years is basically a Xerox copy of Janet in one way or another. Rihanna. Check. Britney Spears. Check. Ciara. Check. TLC. Check. J-Lo. Check. Zendaya. Check. Beyonce. Check. Kelly Rowland. Check. And the list goes on and on and on. In the '80s, record companies were scrambling to find the next Janet, which in turn begat Control-esque albums from Vanessa Williams, Nia Peeples and Paula Abdul just to name a few. When the '90s hit, and Janet's image went from tomboy/militant to confident and sexy, acts such as Salt 'N Pepa and TLC underwent a similar transformation. In the late '90s, Janet's influence was seen in artists like Aaliyah and Britney Spears, and in the new millennium, everyone from Kelly Rowland to Ciara to Rihanna to Jennifer Lopez to Mya was caught blatantly swaggerjacking something Janet had already done. What irks me about people like you is how you like to attribute her career to the fact that she's Michael Jackson's sister. Michael had many siblings, but the only one to ascend to pop music superstardom in a way akin to Michael was Janet, and that was because of HER talent. You can't maintain a decades-long career as a pop ICON (which Janet is) based on being someone's sister. The name got her in the door, but her talent kept her in the room. Michael Jackson will always be pop music's king, but there was a time there when even he called on his sister (and her producers) for a little assistance. Janet's songs are the soundtrack to the mid-late '80s, the entirety of the '90s and a good part of the beginning of the new millennium. Her music videos helped to redefine what it means to be a pop star in the modern world. Her choreography is STILL mimicked today. Her looks, style and record-setting world tours are emulated by pop's current generation and her songs are frequently sampled by today's pop and hip-hop artists. Her catchphrase "...Janet, Miss Jackson if you're nasty" is a pop culture staple. You'd be hard-pressed to find a photo of a female dance/pop artist that is more emulated and paid homage to than her 1993 Rolling Stone magazine cover. Her albums and singles set benchmark records that it took people like Shania Twain and Lady Gaga YEARS to catch up to. Several of her albums are included on various "Albums You Must Hear Before You Die" and "Best of All Time" lists. She was the first artist to have an album that contained 7 top 5 Hot 100 hits (RN 1814. *Sidenote: RN 1814 was not only a statisically successful album, but the scope of its subject matter--e.g. racism/homelessness/senseless, random acts of violence against children/suicide--makes it one of the most currently relevant pop albums to come out of the '80s). She was the first female artist to have a single debut in the top 10 (1995's "Runaway"). She was the first female artist to have an album debut at #1 during the SoundScan era (1993's janet.). She remains the only artist to have Grammy nominations that span the Pop, Dance, Rock, R&B and Hip-Hop categories. She was the first female artist to achieve five back-to-back #1 Billboard Top 200 albums. She has more R&B #1s than Michael Jackson and Whitney Houston, and the only other female who has more R&B #1s than Janet is Aretha. Her Virgin Records mega-deals in the '90s made her the highest paid recording artist in the history of music--twice in one decade. She swept the Billboard Awards in 1990 with a total of 15 wins in one night, and holds the record for most BB awards won by an artist. RN 1814 was the biggest selling album of 1990, and the supporting world tour was the biggest concert box-office draw for a female in the US and still holds the record for biggest debut tour by an artist. When her NUTTY PROFESSOR II song "Doesn't Really Matter" went #1 in 2000, it made her the first artist to have a #1 hit in the '80s, '90s and 2000s. 2001's "All For You" was the longest-running #1 song that year. "That's the Way Love Goes" was #1 for 8 weeks, making her the Jackson act with the longest-running #1 song. Her critically-lauded 1997 album The Velvet Rope, with its anti-homophobia and introspective themes helped fans to see that even internationally renown pop stars get the blues and, in essence, are human too. She's been nominated for an Oscar and has won everything from the MTV Vanguard award to the prestigeous World Music Award. Her fan base is diverse: young and old, gay and straight, black and white, from the USA to Asia--she is loved the world over. Her songs have been covered on TV shows like GLEE and in concert by everyone from Whitney Houston and Prince to Kelly Clarkson, Robyn and Bruno Mars. She's done movies, penned a #1 New York Times Bestselling book, and has done all of this while still maintaining an aire of mystery about her personal life and while keeping her private life out of the tabloids (for the most part), which is something that embarrassing famewhores like Madonna and Jennifer Lopez should learn a thing or two from. So, when I say that you're basically talking out of your ass about Janet's "lack of her own pop music legacy", then you can see that I pretty much mean what I say.

"Janet was one of the first female pop icons that I could relate to ... She was so vibrant, she had so much energy. She still has power. I’ve seen her on stage, and she can stand there for 20 minutes and have the whole arena scream at her. You have to love Janet."--Rihanna

The late Aaliyah was one of Janet's biggest fans, and often mentioned in interviews her desire to work with Janet

"I am a student of Janet Jackson..." SOLANGE

Mya's "Case of the Ex" video was a veritable scene-by-scene homage to Janet's "You Want This"

"Janet was definitely one person I loved to watch growing up and I think she's such an amazing performer and she's contributed so many great things to the musical trend. Because of that I am inspired by her as an artist."--Ciara

“My dream role is to play Janet Jackson, if she ever does her life story while I’m still alive – and I’m young enough to play her."--Keshia Knight Pullium

“My dream role is to play in Janet Jackson’s life story, if I could ever talk to her without crying. If I could actually meet Janet and not cry and run away and make a crackhead of myself, then I’d like to play her.”--Raven Symone

Gabrielle Union admits she was such a huge fan of Janet Jackson that she even let her fixation enter her professional life. She says, "My love affair with Janet Jackson began when she was CHARLENE on DIFF'RENT STROKES. Once, before a big audition, I asked my hairstylist to make me look like her. I did my make-up like Janet, and I walked into WARNER BROTHERS listening to Janet on my headphones, and who else walks out of there but Janet Jackson..."

"The Pleasure Principle inspired me to get into this business..." -- Jennifer Lopez

'“Black Cat” incorporated a bunch of different types of music into one song. It was pop. It was punk. It was rock and roll. And I am all of those things. I think it hit me as a kid really hard, because I love to experience a fusion of musical genres.' -- FeFe Dobson

Mexican singer Selena cited Janet among her main influences with husband Chris Perez stating, "Selena especially loved Janet's song "Black Cat" ... I can't even count how many times Selena and I listened to that single."

Robyn covering "When I Think of You" in concert

Kelly Clarkson covering "If" in concert

The Vampire Diaries actress Kat Graham's mash-up song tribute

Bruno Mars covering "That's the Way Love Goes" in concert

GLEE does Janet

Candace Cameron and Mark Ballas did a jazz routine to "Nasty" on Dancing With the Stars

'80s TV show NASTY BOYS was named for Janet's song and used it as its theme song

Britney Spears was nicknamed "Little Janet" by her MMC co-stars. Her BRITNEY JEAN album was inspired by Janet's DAMITA JO, even down to the title. "I wanted to BE her..." -- Britney Spears

Kelly Rowland does Janet

LOOK FAMILIAR? IT SHOULD. IT'D ALREADY BEEN DONE BEFORE...

Adam Levine considers this photo of himself to be the male version of Janet's legendary RS cover. He also Tweeted: "Even for as huge as Janet Jackson is. I stil feel like her records are underrated. #brilliant"

"(When) Control came out, that joker was just...wildfire. She worked it...every video, every song, and ain't looked back since..." -- Kim Fields

Justin Timberlake's original crush was Janet

Growing up, JT was infatuated with Janet and was a huge fan. He said he wanted a girl like her and said she had "the voice of an angel".

Ironically, he went on to date Britney, who has a very similar persona to Janet, and Britney revealed their first kiss was to a Janet song. JT later opened for Janet's 'Velvet Rope' tour, and claimed his experience on the tour helped develop him as an artist and improved his performing.

L.A. Booksigning for the #1 NY Times Bestseller TRUE YOU

This...

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...is nothing more than a feeble rip-off of this...

^^Janet flashmobs (these are only some of them. There have been MANY).

And these are only some of the examples which illustrate the legendary career of Janet Damita Jo Jackson. I don't know how else to spell it out for you. I mean, maybe sock puppets are in order for you to be able to get it. All that, and this woman isn't influential? Hasn't carved out her own lane in the annals of pop music history? Doesn't deserve the title of legend? Get the fuck out of here with that bullshit.

That's the end? Not hardly.

[Edited 7/27/14 14:30pm]

SEANMAN said:

Anytime someone asks which Janet Jackson album is better than Bobby Brown's DON'T BE CRUEL, then you know not to take anything they say seriously .

Glad you didn't take me seriously.

So wrong for the bad 12 year old voice with those comments....I just don't hear it. I've always loved her voice cause she adapts it for whatever she sings and is easy on the ears.

TonyVanDam said:

lazycrockett said:

It hilarious that Black Cat is getting props, thats one of the worse songs in her discography.

Black Cat deserves to get major props. It's a rock song! Even Motley Crue's Tommy Lee namechecks it as his all-time favorite Janet song.

It is a rock song, but only an average one IMHO. It tries but it just doesn't quite click.

Janet... I have never liked her...

I love the 80's music: Prince, Michael Jackson and some Madonna..... in that order.

Janet Jackson is hugely overrated, never liked a single song by her......

She sounds light weight compared to her brother, and compared to Prince,

Prince's version of What Have U Done 4 Me Lately in the Nude tour encore,

That's funky -- and way better than the original song....

No offense intended, Janet Jackson is just not my cup o' tea, no no......

Maybe if I was a kid or a teenager?

I prefer pop, rock & funk, also in that order.. and, she is not really qualified in these catagories....... IMHO.

I guess the flames are coming now:

Never mind, it's just a matter of tastes....... give me Beatles, ELO, Pink Floyd, Depeche Mode, Bjork, Kate Bush, Prince... now that is music... IMHO.

Qazz said:

"Black Cat" was yet another example of Janet copycatting Michael. It was a very cheesy and transparent attempt at a "Dirty Diana". Lyrically it's atrocious... "living on the edge, not afraid to die..." C'mon. I was in middle school when that nonsense was out and one of my classmates at the time who was a huge rock music fan called the song "dorky." [Edited 7/29/14 7:14am]

Yes it was very mj and prince like wasn't it? I love the mtv performance of the song, so on point with the moves....also, I know the lyrics are simple, but the hook is good and I think it was intended for a young audience anyways. Rock music fans for the most part were indifferent to janet, that's just how it is when groups form in middle school/high school....even though she has charted on the rock charts and is the only artist to have done a record number, so hopefully no one spams this post with a 100 million janet facts

[Edited 7/29/14 7:29am]

CynicKill said:

TD3 said:

SeventeenDayze said: No talent, on both sides. Janet's voice is razor thin and its not suited for singing nor acting. I would like to know if she ever did a concert without lip singing, I doubt it. One of those countless chicks for-which the video era propelled a career... style versus substance. You can thank Jimmy/Terry also because their music camouflage Jackson's thin voice. (IMHO)

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Janet's achilles heel will always be that she's a mash-up of Prince and Michael, THE two superstars of their day. So she's considered a low budget version. Good songs really helped her so we have to give her that. The video era solidified her. She was up their with Madonna. Who knows where either would be without that era. I'd hesitantly say not far. I was a big fan of all these when they came out. I consider them pre-video era Janet. They went nowhere.

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Speaking of the latter...I loved Jay Dee's (J. Dilla) beat he created sampling it to make this....

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Too bad no one ever used it.

Qazz said:

"Black Cat" was yet another example of Janet copycatting Michael. It was a very cheesy and transparent attempt at a "Dirty Diana". Lyrically it's atrocious... "Better watch your step or you're gonna die..." C'mon. I was in middle school when that nonsense was out and one of my classmates at the time who was a huge rock music fan called the song "dorky." [Edited 7/29/14 7:30am]

Surely it can't be a cringy as:

"your butt is mine"

or

"We Can Change The World
Tomorrow
This Could Be A Better Place
If You Don't Like What I'm
Sayin'
Then Won't You Slap My
Face"

utter crap!

[Edited 7/29/14 7:54am]

TonyVanDam said:

That's right fellow orgers, Chico used to look up to his then sister-in-law for inspiration.

Would'nt that be the Minneapolis sound?

I honestly think Beyonce made Janet's career redundant.

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Good luck sticking to the same old thing when there's a younger model, out dancing and out singing you, with better (new) songs.

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This is why Madonna found God, family, and politics. If you're not going to evolve the message, it's gonna get old. And Janet, who I love, got stuck on "sex".

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She could have showed some real humanity after Michael's death, lord knows there was a market for it, but instead she danced at the VMA (just like before!), slapped Paris and stole her phone, kidnapped her mom, and ran away to Dubai.

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Maybe it's all a midlife crises?

Mintchip said:

I honestly think Beyonce made Janet's career redundant.

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Good luck sticking to the same old thing when there's a younger model, out dancing and out singing you, with better (new) songs.

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This is why Madonna found God, family, and politics. If you're not going to evolve the message, it's gonna get old. And Janet, who I love, got stuck on "sex".

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She could have showed some real humanity after Michael's death, lord knows there was a market for it, but instead she danced at the VMA (just like before!), slapped Paris and stole her phone, kidnapped her mom, and ran away to Dubai.

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Maybe it's all a midlife crises?

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Wooooah! Even Paris debunked that lie back around the time of the drama.

[Edited 7/29/14 9:26am]

Mintchip said:

I honestly think Beyonce made Janet's career redundant.

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Good luck sticking to the same old thing when there's a younger model, out dancing and out singing you, with better (new) songs.

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This is why Madonna found God, family, and politics. If you're not going to evolve the message, it's gonna get old. And Janet, who I love, got stuck on "sex".

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She could have showed some real humanity after Michael's death, lord knows there was a market for it, but instead she danced at the VMA (just like before!), slapped Paris and stole her phone, kidnapped her mom, and ran away to Dubai.

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Maybe it's all a midlife crises?

Beyonce makes Beyonce redundant. The most overrated, unoriginal hack on the planet at the moment. As far as the "better" songs go, I don't think Beyonce's so-called music is better, she just has a ton of marketing and too much airplay. You can't get away from this chick's face, not because she's so 'good' it's because she pays for her awards, airplay, etc. Such a tool. As far as Madonna goes, she is STILL using sex to sell. She just did a photo shoot with Katy Scary Perry recently and was in full boudiour (sp?) mode! From what I can tell, Madonna still wears revealing clothes at her concerts and is dating a guy in his 20s. I don't think she kidnapped Katherine. There was some kind of rift between the siblings after Michael died and apparently it was Jermaine's crew versus Janet's crew. I could be wrong on that. Okay, she ran away to Dubai? Um, isn't that where her then-boyfriend now-husband is from?

SeventeenDayze said:

Mintchip said:

I honestly think Beyonce made Janet's career redundant.

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Good luck sticking to the same old thing when there's a younger model, out dancing and out singing you, with better (new) songs.

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This is why Madonna found God, family, and politics. If you're not going to evolve the message, it's gonna get old. And Janet, who I love, got stuck on "sex".

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She could have showed some real humanity after Michael's death, lord knows there was a market for it, but instead she danced at the VMA (just like before!), slapped Paris and stole her phone, kidnapped her mom, and ran away to Dubai.

.

Maybe it's all a midlife crises?

Beyonce makes Beyonce redundant. The most overrated, unoriginal hack on the planet at the moment. As far as the "better" songs go, I don't think Beyonce's so-called music is better, she just has a ton of marketing and too much airplay. You can't get away from this chick's face, not because she's so 'good' it's because she pays for her awards, airplay, etc. Such a tool. As far as Madonna goes, she is STILL using sex to sell. She just did a photo shoot with Katy Scary Perry recently and was in full boudiour (sp?) mode! From what I can tell, Madonna still wears revealing clothes at her concerts and is dating a guy in his 20s. I don't think she kidnapped Katherine. There was some kind of rift between the siblings after Michael died and apparently it was Jermaine's crew versus Janet's crew. I could be wrong on that. Okay, she ran away to Dubai? Um, isn't that where her then-boyfriend now-husband is from?

Well, to be clear, please be sexy, I LOVE sexy, but if there's no other message other than "I'm really kinky", I'm gonna get bored.

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Janet's classic singles would eat Beyonce's for breakfast, I agree, but Beyonce has been delivering great songs for 10 years now. Much more fun to listen to than, say, "Dicipline". If you want to believe she pays for it (...?) that's cool, but you can't say Janet has been bringing it. She's been off her game for a while. Maybe she should pay for it too?

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The grandma disappeared, the phone got (almost) snatched, but there was no slap. I misremembered.

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And, yes, disappearing to Dubai with your billionaire husband is odd.

Mintchip said:

SeventeenDayze said:

Beyonce makes Beyonce redundant. The most overrated, unoriginal hack on the planet at the moment. As far as the "better" songs go, I don't think Beyonce's so-called music is better, she just has a ton of marketing and too much airplay. You can't get away from this chick's face, not because she's so 'good' it's because she pays for her awards, airplay, etc. Such a tool. As far as Madonna goes, she is STILL using sex to sell. She just did a photo shoot with Katy Scary Perry recently and was in full boudiour (sp?) mode! From what I can tell, Madonna still wears revealing clothes at her concerts and is dating a guy in his 20s. I don't think she kidnapped Katherine. There was some kind of rift between the siblings after Michael died and apparently it was Jermaine's crew versus Janet's crew. I could be wrong on that. Okay, she ran away to Dubai? Um, isn't that where her then-boyfriend now-husband is from?

Well, to be clear, please be sexy, I LOVE sexy, but if there's no other message other than "I'm really kinky", I'm gonna get bored.

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Janet's classic singles would eat Beyonce's for breakfast, I agree, but Beyonce has been delivering great songs for 10 years now. Much more fun to listen to than, say, "Dicipline". If you want to believe she pays for it (...?) that's cool, but you can't say Janet has been bringing it. She's been off her game for a while. Maybe she should pay for it too?

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The grandma disappeared, the phone got (almost) snatched, but there was no slap. I misremembered.

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And, yes, disappearing to Dubai with your billionaire husband is odd.

If it weren't for her pimp/husband, Beyonce would have been irrelevant way sooner than now. I think she's already past her heyday but is being so heavily marketed and promoted that the average listener think she's got some kind of stellar output still. All of her stuff is redundant. Besides, you were dead wrong for comparing Beyonce to Janet's Discipline album, what does one have to do with the other? Beywance has a team that pays off the media to keep her relevant. At least Janet changed her style and sound up a bit. Beyonce is gonna be in the same blonde weave and leotard for the next 50 years singing about "girl power" BS.

SeventeenDayze said:

Mintchip said:

Well, to be clear, please be sexy, I LOVE sexy, but if there's no other message other than "I'm really kinky", I'm gonna get bored.

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Janet's classic singles would eat Beyonce's for breakfast, I agree, but Beyonce has been delivering great songs for 10 years now. Much more fun to listen to than, say, "Dicipline". If you want to believe she pays for it (...?) that's cool, but you can't say Janet has been bringing it. She's been off her game for a while. Maybe she should pay for it too?

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The grandma disappeared, the phone got (almost) snatched, but there was no slap. I misremembered.

.

And, yes, disappearing to Dubai with your billionaire husband is odd.

If it weren't for her pimp/husband, Beyonce would have been irrelevant way sooner than now. I think she's already past her heyday but is being so heavily marketed and promoted that the average listener think she's got some kind of stellar output still. All of her stuff is redundant. Besides, you were dead wrong for comparing Beyonce to Janet's Discipline album, what does one have to do with the other? Beywance has a team that pays off the media to keep her relevant. At least Janet changed her style and sound up a bit. Beyonce is gonna be in the same blonde weave and leotard for the next 50 years singing about "girl power" BS.

^THIS!

SeventeenDayze said:

Mintchip said:

Well, to be clear, please be sexy, I LOVE sexy, but if there's no other message other than "I'm really kinky", I'm gonna get bored.

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Janet's classic singles would eat Beyonce's for breakfast, I agree, but Beyonce has been delivering great songs for 10 years now. Much more fun to listen to than, say, "Dicipline". If you want to believe she pays for it (...?) that's cool, but you can't say Janet has been bringing it. She's been off her game for a while. Maybe she should pay for it too?

.

The grandma disappeared, the phone got (almost) snatched, but there was no slap. I misremembered.

.

And, yes, disappearing to Dubai with your billionaire husband is odd.

If it weren't for her pimp/husband, Beyonce would have been irrelevant way sooner than now. I think she's already past her heyday but is being so heavily marketed and promoted that the average listener think she's got some kind of stellar output still. All of her stuff is redundant. Besides, you were dead wrong for comparing Beyonce to Janet's Discipline album, what does one have to do with the other? Beywance has a team that pays off the media to keep her relevant. At least Janet changed her style and sound up a bit. Beyonce is gonna be in the same blonde weave and leotard for the next 50 years singing about "girl power" BS.

I guess the "pimp/husband" idea could be why Janet's in Dubai? Unsure.

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I only mention Discipline because it was her last album, and nobody cared.

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And if "media payments" made music like "B Day", "Beyonce", and Countdown...I think Janet should get a payment plan. Maybe her (pimp) husband could foot the bill?

[Edited 7/29/14 10:28am]