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Jody Watley on why Shalamar didn't reunite for the BET awards [img:$uid]http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/_/36761747/Jody+Watley+gochir.jpg[/img:$uid]
For the past 5 years, I’ve been approached by BET to reunite with Jeffrey Daniel and Howard Hewett for the BET Awards to close the show as surprise performers. Throughout the process, my representatives as a condition on with their desired Shalamar reunion of the particular renowned classic line-up in the evolving entity, that I be allotted a spotlight as well. With a solo catalog of hits it just business sense and recognizing the strength of what I bring to the table. Other artists who have come from groups and gone on to great solo success while also making a mark in pop culture request the same. At the core, it’s always down to business for me – nothing personal. All parties agreed finally after 4 years of no to a “Jody Watley”, “we don’t want her to do that” by various people in other camps – so it seemed we were finally on for 2014. The reluctance or (dis)agreeance was baffling from a business point of view despite these hits which span R&B/Pop/Dance and Hip Hop (Friends with Eric B & Rakim). Having sold millions, and impacted pop culture through my music, video, style, etc. is something I will never allow to be diminished for the benefit and ego others as long as I live. With my fans, I always encourage people to not let their personal value be defined and diminished by others. We all have a choice of how we let other’s treat us. I live that as much as I can in my personal and business life. Some think ‘Oh, you’re not hot, or this or that anymore’ and believe that it’s an opening to get you to think less of yourself and drop your standards. I will never have that mentality. Understand a lot of people are still upset at my solo success – trust me. I say, never give up your power. | |
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She also mis spelled his name in her blog. Just worth a mention. Trust Jody, you want no part of that show. | |
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Interesting point-of-view, if a tad ego-driven and hard to wade through... "Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything." --Plato
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As much as I would love to finally see a Shalamar reunion,if there has to be this much drama and disagreement,I say forget about it.It's not worth it! I'm glad that Jody explained her point of view.For years,people have been saying that Howard and Jeffrey want to do it,but she is the one who won't make it happen.Her reasons make alot of sense. | |
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I don't think that if they want Shalamar to perform that Jody or any other member should get a separate solo spot, unless they all get one. In a concert, that might be cool, but the time is going to be limited on a TV awards show. When The Police reunited a few years ago and they performed on the Grammys, they didn't do Sting solo songs. I understand that she wants to do a uptempo song instead of a ballad (probably designed to spotlight Howard) and wants the others to dance, which they did when they were together. If she wants Gerald Brown in the performance too, that's more time. I don't see the show giving the group that much time, unless they're getting a lifetime award, and the award shows usually have other acts to perform the songs. You can take a black guy to Nashville from right out of the cotton fields with bib overalls, and they will call him R&B. You can take a white guy in a pin-stripe suit who’s never seen a cotton field, and they will call him country. ~ O. B. McClinton | |
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The hell Jeffrey gonna sing solo? | |
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Here's the whole thing in just a small bit. I don't know why she had to say so much, but everything you need to know about Watley's view of her own significance and of what this appearance would be (and why no one else really wanted to do it) is all right here:
It was probably a mistake to begin with to try to link all of these performances, however it has worked for Justin Timberlake (MTV Awards brining out NSync) and Beyonce (Superbowl bringing out Michelle Williams and Kelly Rowland for a Destiny’s Child moment).
What that is, Ms. Watley, is a Jody Watley performance, with a little cameo by Shalamar. It says "Here's the star, and here's the little people that hung around the star for awhile. Ah, how sweet. That's nice of the star to share the stage. Okay, now--go away and let the star finish this thing right."
The problem with that? Justin Timberlake and Beyonce still sell, and can justify an extended TV performance spot. Watley, despite her apparent delusions concerning this issue, doesn't and can't. Not many more people watching the show would recognize her than would recognize Hewett (I can't honestly say I would recognize Daniel, though if he walked out with the other two I would say, "Hey, it's Shalamar." And notice the punctuation. Even the three of them wouldn't deserve an exclamation point. Or that much time and production.)
I get that she's got some longstanding frustration. I get that she doesn't want to be a nostalgia act. I get that there's a difference in the way that males and females are treated. I get that the BET bookers might be idiots (I don't know that they are--and I kind of feel that giving in to her vision for this might be pretty dumb). But none of that is more important here than her bizarre idea that a Watley feature with a Shalamar reunion as a piece of it is equivalent to a Timberlake performance with a bit of NSync or a a Beyonce performance with a bit of Destiny's Child. Maybe that would have made some sense 25 or possibly 20 years ago, but now?
I have to assume that she believes the hyperbole of her current Wikipedia article, which begins with the following: "Jody Vanessa Watley (born January 30, 1959) is an American singer, songwriter, record producer, music maverick and one of music's defining artists."
I guess maybe she does deserve it? | |
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Jodi's essay wasn't all that necessary. Ain't nobody checkin' for Shalamar that hard honey. I will forever love and miss you...my sweet Prince. | |
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Jody really has an over-inflated ego. Don't nobody care (or remember) that she won a Grammy in 1987! Go do the performance, make your bread and go home! A Shalamar reunion does not call for a Jody Watley or Howard Hewitt solo spotlight. Why is she making such a big deal? Yeah, Howard was the star of the group so he would get most of the leads so maybe that's why she has her bloomers in a bunch. Unless it's Beyonce or Miley Cirus acting like prostitutes, people generally forget about those Award Show performances a couple of days after they occur so why is she even making it an issue? And, I'm sorry, but the majority of people who watch the BET Awards aren't even going to have the slightest idea who Shalamar is so what the hell difference does it make? [Edited 7/6/14 17:56pm] "It's not nice to fuck with K.B.! All you haters will see!" - Kitbradley
"The only true wisdom is knowing you know nothing." - Socrates | |
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And you don't think years of rewriting history and appropriation played a part in that?
I agree not everyone would know who they are anyways at BET and I can't disrespect her for not wanting to let that show reduce them to something that would be a big mess in the first place. If she has an ego, it's a healthy one and she tells it like it is. | |
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i agree with Jody, if you keep asking me to reunite with my ex band mates (which she did for Babyface already) at least provide the opportunity for all the members to have the spotlight including original lead singer Gerald Brown. I loved her idea and concept, it wasnt all about her she even agreed but they ended up doing the flim flam at the end, which she did not agree too.
Howard is the reason the group broke up in the first place. Now you want it to be Howards way or no way at all. Shalamar was known for dance moves dont nobody wanna close the show on a damn BALLAD. if you gonna do a performance go hard or go home. Nick Ashford was someone I greatly admired, had the honor of knowing, and was the real-life inspiration for Cowboy Curtis' hair. RIP Nick. - Pee Wee Herman | |
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if they gonna do a reunion why just stand there and just hold a microphone, thats not what people wanna see Nick Ashford was someone I greatly admired, had the honor of knowing, and was the real-life inspiration for Cowboy Curtis' hair. RIP Nick. - Pee Wee Herman | |
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Yes, she worked too hard to make a name and identity for herself as both brands and with all the social media and Viacom owned bullshit that is BET in a male dominated industry, she knows she's too good for the awards. She doesn't need them and they certainly don't deserve her. | |
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I"ve always liked Jodi Watley.....
really a big fan of hers
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Exactly. I will forever love and miss you...my sweet Prince. | |
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What I think is exactly what I said...that her multi-paragraph essay about why she hasn't agreed to a Shalamar reunion for the BET Awards show is overdone and irrelevant. She's just an okay singer and performer...homegirl isn't all of that. In recent years, she's been popping up out the blue with these irrelevant rants about why she isn't reuniting with Shalamar. Okay we get it, so don't reunite with them and continue on with whatever you are doing to be happy. Like I said, nobody is checkin' for Shalamar that hard...but it obviously seems like she is. Cry me a river already.
[Edited 7/6/14 18:54pm] I will forever love and miss you...my sweet Prince. | |
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The original was Gary Mumford. Technically, the original Shalamar was not a real group. It was several session singers including Gary. When Uptown Festival became a hit, a group was formed to tour, which is how Jody & Jeffrey got in. Gary, Jody, & Jeffrey are on the debut album cover, but the only member who sings on the record is Gary. Gary left and was replaced by Gerald. This lineup sang on the 2nd album. You can take a black guy to Nashville from right out of the cotton fields with bib overalls, and they will call him R&B. You can take a white guy in a pin-stripe suit who’s never seen a cotton field, and they will call him country. ~ O. B. McClinton | |
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im totally shocked at Jeffery Daniels being like this he was an original member along with Jody Watley and he loved to dance just like Jody so for him to take a back seat to Howards request is weird. Jeffery needs to cement his legacy in the group and not fade in the background to a microphone holder. Nick Ashford was someone I greatly admired, had the honor of knowing, and was the real-life inspiration for Cowboy Curtis' hair. RIP Nick. - Pee Wee Herman | |
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Nick Ashford was someone I greatly admired, had the honor of knowing, and was the real-life inspiration for Cowboy Curtis' hair. RIP Nick. - Pee Wee Herman | |
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And there it is...
If it's going be a Shalamar reunion, then let it be just that. No solos from anyone. | |
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Shalamar or Jody is probably not well known to some of the current BET audience. Some younger folks only know Lionel Richie as Nicole's father and he was way more popular than Jody. BET might have had them sing with some younger popular act, which is how the award shows has done these things in recent years like The Time & Rihanna, Mick Jagger & The Black Eyed Peas, Stevie Wonder & Jonas Brothers, Beyonce & Tina Turner/Prince, or En Vogue & Alicia Keys. You can take a black guy to Nashville from right out of the cotton fields with bib overalls, and they will call him R&B. You can take a white guy in a pin-stripe suit who’s never seen a cotton field, and they will call him country. ~ O. B. McClinton | |
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I love Shalamar. I grew up on this group and still rock their music to this very day. However, I just wish that this group would really get their shit together. Ever since they got together for the "This Is For the Lover In You" remake with Babyface, it's been years and years of useless finger-pointing. "This one don't want to sing with that one because of blah-blah-blah and the dish ran away with the spoon!" It's bullshit. No one is bigger than Shalamar. Okay, I give Jody her props for her Grammy Award and for selling several million albums. Howard gets love because point blank - the man can sing his ass off and is a legend in his own right. Jeffrey Daniel is the reason Michael Jackson solidified his legend on Motown 25. I get that. This pettiness is absurd and uncalled for. At this point, I would like to see them get together but this finger-pointing and the blame game is for the birds. [Edited 7/6/14 20:12pm] | |
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I like how Jody left the door open for a possible farewell reunion tour in the future. | |
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Gawd her ego. | |
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Hence, why I said too much appropriation over time in the industry has not earned them the dues they deserve. | |
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It would have been cool just to see them do a 3-song medley of "The Second Time Around",then "This Is For The Lover In You",then a kickass version of "A Night To Remember".Old school R&B fans would have loved that. | |
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Was Shalamar even that popular? I've read they were popular in the UK, but in the US they were mostly successful on the R&B charts, they didn't really crossover except for Dead Giveaway. The mainstream awards like the Grammys mostly just recognizes acts that were popular on the Top 40 pop charts, not the R&B, dance, or country charts. Jody as a solo crossed over, but she's just considered a dance pop singer who had some brief success. Not really any different than Taylor Dayne, Expose, Sheena Easton, Paula Abdul, Lisa Lisa, Debbie Gibson, or Samantha Fox who were also popular around that time. You can take a black guy to Nashville from right out of the cotton fields with bib overalls, and they will call him R&B. You can take a white guy in a pin-stripe suit who’s never seen a cotton field, and they will call him country. ~ O. B. McClinton | |
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her ego is outta control,ive never heard another artists use the words icon and classic refering to themself so much.i must have missed jody's dominance of pop culture because i dont remember he being all that. bet is not gonna give her some high profile solo spot, she should have did the shalamar reunionand enjoyed the 2 days of exposure theywould get from it. | |
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Dancing in the Sheets from Footloose soundtrack was their biggest hit. Since Howard Hewett sang lead most of the time as long as he tours u get the same vibe. And they didn't do a lot of fancy choreography that I remember. Love God and I shall 4ever Love u | |
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