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Reply #30 posted 07/05/14 10:43am

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bigd74 said:

Cinny said:

Haha, sorry, it was inspired by the possible configuration of a Prince remaster. I've been trying to branch out of Music:Non-Prince or General Discussion, but you're right.. this doesn't fit here!

Don't apologize, your answers were fine and on topic.

Sorry, I'm Canadian. I even reported to have my thread moved.

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Reply #31 posted 07/05/14 10:45am

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I'm quite shocked by how so many people here are being obssessed by money. Ain't u all rich or at least comfy? eek

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Reply #32 posted 07/05/14 10:49am

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databank said:

I'm quite shocked by how so many people here are being obssessed by money. Ain't u all rich or at least comfy? eek

Even rich people appreciate value. wink

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Reply #33 posted 07/05/14 10:54am

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sexton said:

You've upset a few people with the thread Cinny. lol

OCD be damned lol

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Reply #34 posted 07/05/14 11:19am

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databank said:

I'm quite shocked by how so many people here are being obssessed by money. Ain't u all rich or at least comfy? eek

Nope!

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Reply #35 posted 07/05/14 12:29pm

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databank said:

I'm quite shocked by how so many people here are being obssessed by money. Ain't u all rich or at least comfy? eek

not at all. on the breadline mostly

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Reply #36 posted 07/05/14 1:58pm

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Thread being moved to non-Prince forum. Thanks for hitting the Report to Mod button, Cinny.

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Reply #37 posted 07/05/14 8:35pm

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NouveauDance said:

If I get a 2CD reissue, and the first CD is only the original 45 min-ish LP, I'm disappointed they didn't cram both discs full of extras. I know where the album original stops and I can hit the pause button or separate them in a media player when ripped if I like, I'd rather have value for money and more music than satisfy my OCD.

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For me, the ideal format is when the original album is about 60-minutes-ish, and then they add a bonus disc with maybe 20-25 minutes of new tracks and/or remixes.

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If the original is 45 minutes, I don't mind if they tack on the bonus tracks after the 'last' track of the first disc.

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The one time I got annoyed to the point of near-rage, was when Timberlake included a 2-track bonus disc to 20/20 Experience 2 of 2, which was about 9 minutes long. WTF? The first disc is 74:25 minutes and it would have benefited from some editing. A mere 2 more tracks could have easily fitted on that one disc if JT had edited those long ass songs.

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Reply #38 posted 07/05/14 8:54pm

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Cinny said:

NouveauDance said:

If I get a 2CD reissue, and the first CD is only the original 45 min-ish LP, I'm disappointed they didn't cram both discs full of extras. I know where the album original stops and I can hit the pause button or separate them in a media player when ripped if I like, I'd rather have value for money and more music than satisfy my OCD.

You want disc 2 to be full of extras, as well as bonus tracks after the album on disc 1?


The 2-disc reissue of André Cymone's AC is an example of too many bonus tracks. Both CDs filled to the brim! lol

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Reply #39 posted 07/06/14 9:55am

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I guess everyone is different. This is really the first time I've heard people complaining about the inclusion of bonus tracks on reissues (as long as they are from the master tapes). I usually don't repurchse a CD I already have unless it contains bonus tracks. There are so many incredible remixes and extended versions from the 80's that I FINALLY get the hear for the first time on CD without all the annoying snap, crackles and pops of vinyl, thanks to the people at FTG and BBR! And I really LOVE it when they include demos and unreleased tracks as part of the reissue. The only way I will repurchase a CD I already own is if the version I have was poorly mastered to begin with, which happened often with a lot of CDs that were released in 80s and early 90s. Otherwise, I absolutely must have my bonus tracks. You've got to give me something if I'm going to spend money on the same title 2 or 3 times.

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Reply #40 posted 07/06/14 10:15am

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I think the initial gripe was bonus tracks racked on the end of the original album
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Reply #41 posted 07/06/14 11:05am

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kitbradley said:

I guess everyone is different. This is really the first time I've heard people complaining about the inclusion of bonus tracks on reissues (as long as they are from the master tapes). I usually don't repurchse a CD I already have unless it contains bonus tracks. There are so many incredible remixes and extended versions from the 80's that I FINALLY get the hear for the first time on CD without all the annoying snap, crackles and pops of vinyl, thanks to the people at FTG and BBR! And I really LOVE it when they include demos and unreleased tracks as part of the reissue. The only way I will repurchase a CD I already own is if the version I have was poorly mastered to begin with, which happened often with a lot of CDs that were released in 80s and early 90s. Otherwise, I absolutely must have my bonus tracks. You've got to give me something if I'm going to spend money on the same title 2 or 3 times.

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Reply #42 posted 07/06/14 11:08am

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It really depends on your preference, for me if an artist has 2 discs worth of B-sides and alt tracks and demos, do a box set. Interesting this came up now as this weekend I have been playing the Bon Jovi "New Jersey" super deluxe package. Its 2 cds and then a dvd, interesting the first disc which is the album itself is the actual release but at the end 3 bsides are put on there, these 3 Bsides were from their 5 singles released from the album so i can understand them being there because they were part of that "album mindset" from then, then the other disc is all demos and tracks that were considered early on cause the album originally was going to be a double cd.


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Reply #43 posted 07/06/14 5:39pm

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bigd74 said:

I think the initial gripe was bonus tracks racked on the end of the original album

It's cheaper for the labels to press everything onto one CD.

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Reply #44 posted 07/08/14 2:28pm

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lastdecember said:

It really depends on your preference, for me if an artist has 2 discs worth of B-sides and alt tracks and demos, do a box set. Interesting this came up now as this weekend I have been playing the Bon Jovi "New Jersey" super deluxe package. Its 2 cds and then a dvd, interesting the first disc which is the album itself is the actual release but at the end 3 bsides are put on there, these 3 Bsides were from their 5 singles released from the album so i can understand them being there because they were part of that "album mindset" from then, then the other disc is all demos and tracks that were considered early on cause the album originally was going to be a double cd.

Unless disc two was full, I would have preferred those b-sides be relegated to the second disc, not placed after the main album. I know what you're saying though - previously released and finished vs. unreleased and rough

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Reply #45 posted 07/08/14 2:29pm

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bigd74 said:

I think the initial gripe was bonus tracks racked on the end of the original album

Yes, thank you. Of course in general I love bonus tracks.

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Reply #46 posted 07/08/14 2:37pm

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Cinny said:

lastdecember said:

It really depends on your preference, for me if an artist has 2 discs worth of B-sides and alt tracks and demos, do a box set. Interesting this came up now as this weekend I have been playing the Bon Jovi "New Jersey" super deluxe package. Its 2 cds and then a dvd, interesting the first disc which is the album itself is the actual release but at the end 3 bsides are put on there, these 3 Bsides were from their 5 singles released from the album so i can understand them being there because they were part of that "album mindset" from then, then the other disc is all demos and tracks that were considered early on cause the album originally was going to be a double cd.

Unless disc two was full, I would have preferred those b-sides be relegated to the second disc, not placed after the main album. I know what you're saying though - previously released and finished vs. unreleased and rough

Yeah with this it kind of fit though one bside is a cover and it was a cover that fits the mood of the record but never would have been on the record, which was "The boys are back in town" it fit the "new jersey" vibe but never would have been on the actual album. In this case it worked, but other times it doesnt, like when 12" mixes are tacked on, im not crazy about that because i already heard the song once 9 times out of 10 im gonna skip the mix now.


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Reply #47 posted 07/09/14 8:16am

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lastdecember said:

Cinny said:

Unless disc two was full, I would have preferred those b-sides be relegated to the second disc, not placed after the main album. I know what you're saying though - previously released and finished vs. unreleased and rough

Yeah with this it kind of fit though one bside is a cover and it was a cover that fits the mood of the record but never would have been on the record, which was "The boys are back in town" it fit the "new jersey" vibe but never would have been on the actual album. In this case it worked, but other times it doesnt, like when 12" mixes are tacked on, im not crazy about that because i already heard the song once 9 times out of 10 im gonna skip the mix now.

YESSSSSS

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Reply #48 posted 07/09/14 4:29pm

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Don't CD players have a programming button and a stop button? lol On the 8-track tape version of one of the Pink Floyd albums (don't remember which one) there is an extra track. That was in the 1970s. The 8-track of Sgt. Pepper did not have the play out noise & dog whistle at the end of the album like the vinyl. In the 1980s, sometimes there was a extra track or different mix on the cassette not on the record or vice versa. So this is not a new thing that started with remastered CDs.

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Reply #49 posted 07/09/14 4:31pm

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MickyDolenz said: The 8-track of Sgt. Pepper did not have the play out noise & dog whistle at the end of the album like the vinyl.

omg that would drive me nuts

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Reply #50 posted 07/10/14 12:38pm

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Cinny said:

MickyDolenz said: The 8-track of Sgt. Pepper did not have the play out noise & dog whistle at the end of the album like the vinyl.

omg that would drive me nuts

You can hear a dog whistle? razz The fade out only works if you have a non-automatic record player anyway, because the arm stays on the record until picked up. There is a similar thing on Stevie Wonder's Secret Life Of Plants, which has some nature sounds at the end of side 3.

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Reply #51 posted 07/11/14 12:38pm

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MickyDolenz said:

Cinny said:

omg that would drive me nuts

You can hear a dog whistle? razz

MickyDolenz said:

The fade out only works if you have a non-automatic record player anyway, because the arm stays on the record until picked up.

Oh, you KNOW I do.

MickyDolenz said:

There is a similar thing on Stevie Wonder's Secret Life Of Plants, which has some nature sounds at the end of side 3.

Oh cool! I am realizing I never got too familiar with that double album, even though I have it.

DirtyChris pointed out this Plants sample to me the other day:

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