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Don't drag Mack into this.

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ginusher said:

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Don't drag Mack into this.

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Thanks for posting this song, I'll give it a listen

missfee said:

Who?

Thats how I feel Don't know who she is and haven't listened to any of her music. Its wack how the industry is pushing this "oversexualize female rapper image". Its manufactured and fake. I miss the days of the Missy's and the Eve's where they went as hard as the male rappers. Whether you're female singer or female rapper the image has to be oversexualized according to the industry . Its sad these insecure women care more about pleasing the industry versus having a back bone..

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SeventeenDayze said:

MotownSubdivision said:

SeventeenDayze said: I would love for that to happen. The only downside is that once her time is up, as anotger user said, another record label product will be ready and waiting on the assembly line to takeover as the next flavor of the season and get lauded as the face of a genre with only 2 hit songs and nothing else to their name.

It's insane how this chick is being championed as some kinda "savior" of hip-hop. Colonial mentality at its finest!

The first time I heard one of her so-called songs, it was clear that she was a Nicki Minaj knock off. I also seriously doubt that T.I. had much influence in this chick's fame, aside from being a convenient black face thrown into the mix. They are calling him her "mentor" but NOT her manager and NOT her record label exec.

Every since Kendrick Lamar was snubbed at the Grammys, I'm really seeing the forest for the trees here.

T.I. discovered, groomed & mentored her! He is just as much apart her success as any manager that she has now. He believed in her! Now in just over a year! She is setting records on TOP of the charts...She is making him a VERY RICH man...

Iggy & her NBA bALLER bOYFRIEND Laker Nick Young

Formula for getting black points:

1.) Hang out with an NBA player (can someone PLEASE pass Kevin Durant to me??!?!)

2.) Get fake butt

3.) Get put on blast by TMZ for using N-word (but make sure you have your "black crew" on hand to quickly say you "ain't" racist)

4.) Steal a Grammy from Kendrick Lamar

Or, you could just turn up the rap station in your city and throw up fake gang signs (this is a fast track if you don't want to do the above formula for years)

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KCOOLMUZIQ said:

SeventeenDayze said:

It's insane how this chick is being championed as some kinda "savior" of hip-hop. Colonial mentality at its finest!

The first time I heard one of her so-called songs, it was clear that she was a Nicki Minaj knock off. I also seriously doubt that T.I. had much influence in this chick's fame, aside from being a convenient black face thrown into the mix. They are calling him her "mentor" but NOT her manager and NOT her record label exec.

Every since Kendrick Lamar was snubbed at the Grammys, I'm really seeing the forest for the trees here.

T.I. discovered, groomed & mentored her! He is just as much apart her success as any manager that she has now. He believed in her! Now in just over a year! She is setting records on TOP of the charts...She is making him a VERY RICH man...

But Tiny can't put a pic of Floyd Mayweather up on her Instagram without TI laying the smackdown? Sheez. KCool, why didn't you highlight the rest of what I said about TI being a convenient black face or is the truth too inconvenient?

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SeventeenDayze said:

Thanks for posting!

SeventeenDayze said:

ScarletScandal said:

MotownSubdivision said:

ScarletScandal said: British?

Like Madonna?

Madonna went from a New York accent to a ''spirtual advisor white girl' vegan'' to british. She can't make up her mind.

[img:$uid]http://cdn.singersroom.com/upload/2014/02/Iggy-Azalea-Nick-Young-GQ-6.jpg[/img:$uid]

@KCOOLMUZIQ......I'll say this much, THIS^ last picture you posted is hot!

Cinny said:

SeventeenDayze said:

Thanks for posting!

Anytime, Cinny! She's got some amazing songs on youtube that are a bit more on the jazz side. She did a great set at a White House celebration last year. I should start a Queen Latifah appreciation thread and post it.

MotownSubdivision said:

SeventeenDayze said:

Formula for getting black points:

1.) Hang out with an NBA player (can someone PLEASE pass Kevin Durant to me??!?!)

2.) Get fake butt

3.) Get put on blast by TMZ for using N-word (but make sure you have your "black crew" on hand to quickly say you "ain't" racist)

4.) Steal a Grammy from Kendrick Lamar

Or, you could just turn up the rap station in your city and throw up fake gang signs (this is a fast track if you don't want to do the above formula for years)

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[Edited 7/4/14 12:28pm]

#4 has proven to not give you black points lol

Point taken Unless they are the self-hating type

TonyVanDam said:

[img:$uid]http://cdn.singersroom.com/upload/2014/02/Iggy-Azalea-Nick-Young-GQ-6.jpg[/img:$uid]

@KCOOLMUZIQ......I'll say this much, THIS^ last picture you posted is hot!

Pop rapper Iggy Azalea and her L.A Lakers boyfriend Nick Young were seen leaving dinner at Crustacean Restaurant in Beverly Hills, CA. on Thursday. Iggy and Nick were all smiles as the two lovebirds waited for the valet to bring Nick’s $300,000 Ferrari California Sports car.

What in the world is a "pop rapper"? (This may or may not be a rhetorical question)

SeventeenDayze said:

MotownSubdivision said:

SeventeenDayze said:

What in the world is a "pop rapper"? (This may or may not be a rhetorical question)

See Macklemore

Yeah, I think you're on to something. Sounds like coded speech for "white rapper". Same BS labels people use to hide the real intention of the meaning. Just like when they say a man is "distinguished" that's code for fat, bald and self-important.

SeventeenDayze said:

MotownSubdivision said:

SeventeenDayze said:

Yeah, I think you're on to something. Sounds like coded speech for "white rapper". Same BS labels people use to hide the real intention of the meaning. Just like when they say a man is "distinguished" that's code for fat, bald and self-important.

I wouldn't say it's another way of saying "white rapper" since I (nor anyone else) would use the term to describe Eminem and his music. But honestly, Iggy is pretty much a pop artist in rapper's clothing. Macklemore can at least be given credit for hustling on his own label for many years dropping mixtape until he broke through the mainstream ceiling; at least he had a natural progression to his fame (though winning all those Grammys and that prosthetic nose stunt hurt his popularity) but The Heist just was not a pure hip hop album, it was hip pop; the very genre that Iggy is an act of though like Macklemore, is being pushed as though she's this real deal, authentic, game-changing deity that that rap game needs. #Politics

Nonsense. I was calling Eminem a pop rapper ages ago. MC Hammer was a pop rapper. Nicki Minaj is a pop rapper...and YES, Iggy Azalea is a pop rapper, too. Vanilla Ice was a pop rapper just like Ja Rule was. LL Cool J - pop rapper before there was pop rap. Drake - pop rapper. Wayne - pop rapper. (but he wasn't always so; he transformed like Kanye) Black Eyed Peas became pop rappers willingly. Macklemore is a pop rapper, too. There are quite a few others, but they exist. Everybody started somewhere and grinded to be successful.

Its not coded talk. Pop rappers rap for the pop charts and/or become pop successes. Pitbulll - pop rapper. Flo Rida? Yep.

Now, somebody pull up my thread on Iggy from a couple of years ago. I called it back then. I also said something similar about Nicki and there they are. Some people are destined for pop stardom. They wanted to make Karmin a huge pop rap act but I guess Amy wouldn't lose 150 lbs. or so. (her boyfriend/other half of the group)

They are a footnote at this point. I guess its easier to imitate a Busta Rhymes flow than it is to create one, eh?

When Iggy dropped pu$$y, I knew she was gonna be a star. She just had broke brothas managing her career. TIP heard and saw what any good marketer would see; a good-looking chick who could flow if she focused. She's a marketing dream. Don't blame Iggy for her success. She is what mainstream pop audiences want and it is their support that has made her famous. Everybody loves to hear an attractive woman talk uninhibitedly about sex. Foxy Brown and Kim were specific tastes (brothas), Nicki was prettier, biracial and more acceptable; she was also more successful. It was just a matter of time before an Iggy came along. If Megan Fox, Scarlett Johansson or Jessica Alba were unknown and came out rapping (proficiently) about sex, they would be snatched up by someone sooner or later, too.

A couple of years ago, the Iggy thread was small and only a few of us even knew who she was. She was R-rated. I said they would tone her back some and she'd blow up. Here we are.

BlaqueKnight said:

MotownSubdivision said:

SeventeenDayze said: I wouldn't say it's another way of saying "white rapper" since I (nor anyone else) would use the term to describe Eminem and his music. But honestly, Iggy is pretty much a pop artist in rapper's clothing. Macklemore can at least be given credit for hustling on his own label for many years dropping mixtape until he broke through the mainstream ceiling; at least he had a natural progression to his fame (though winning all those Grammys and that prosthetic nose stunt hurt his popularity) but The Heist just was not a pure hip hop album, it was hip pop; the very genre that Iggy is an act of though like Macklemore, is being pushed as though she's this real deal, authentic, game-changing deity that that rap game needs. #Politics

Nonsense. I was calling Eminem a pop rapper ages ago. MC Hammer was a pop rapper. Nicki Minaj is a pop rapper...and YES, Iggy Azalea is a pop rapper, too. Vanilla Ice was a pop rapper just like Ja Rule was. LL Cool J - pop rapper before there was pop rap. Drake - pop rapper. Wayne - pop rapper. (but he wasn't always so; he transformed like Kanye) Black Eyed Peas became pop rappers willingly. Macklemore is a pop rapper, too. There are quite a few others, but they exist. Everybody started somewhere and grinded to be successful.

Its not coded talk. Pop rappers rap for the pop charts and/or become pop successes. Pitbulll - pop rapper. Flo Rida? Yep.

Now, somebody pull up my thread on Iggy from a couple of years ago. I called it back then. I also said something similar about Nicki and there they are. Some people are destined for pop stardom. They wanted to make Karmin a huge pop rap act but I guess Amy wouldn't lose 150 lbs. or so. (her boyfriend/other half of the group)

They are a footnote at this point. I guess its easier to imitate a Busta Rhymes flow than it is to create one, eh?

When Iggy dropped pu$$y, I knew she was gonna be a star. She just had broke brothas managing her career. TIP heard and saw what any good marketer would see; a good-looking chick who could flow if she focused. She's a marketing dream. Don't blame Iggy for her success. She is what mainstream pop audiences want and it is their support that has made her famous. Everybody loves to hear an attractive woman talk uninhibitedly about sex. Foxy Brown and Kim were specific tastes (brothas), Nicki was prettier, biracial and more acceptable; she was also more successful. It was just a matter of time before an Iggy came along. If Megan Fox, Scarlett Johansson or Jessica Alba were unknown and came out rapping (proficiently) about sex, they would be snatched up by someone sooner or later, too.

A couple of years ago, the Iggy thread was small and only a few of us even knew who she was. She was R-rated. I said they would tone her back some and she'd blow up. Here we are.

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

BlaqueKnight said:

...Nicki was prettier, biracial and more acceptable; she was also more successful. It was just a matter of time before an Iggy came along. ...

I thought she had some Asian in her? No? My bad.

This is the song I've been listening to the past few days!

BlaqueKnight said:

MotownSubdivision said:

SeventeenDayze said: I wouldn't say it's another way of saying "white rapper" since I (nor anyone else) would use the term to describe Eminem and his music. But honestly, Iggy is pretty much a pop artist in rapper's clothing. Macklemore can at least be given credit for hustling on his own label for many years dropping mixtape until he broke through the mainstream ceiling; at least he had a natural progression to his fame (though winning all those Grammys and that prosthetic nose stunt hurt his popularity) but The Heist just was not a pure hip hop album, it was hip pop; the very genre that Iggy is an act of though like Macklemore, is being pushed as though she's this real deal, authentic, game-changing deity that that rap game needs. #Politics

Nonsense. I was calling Eminem a pop rapper ages ago. MC Hammer was a pop rapper. Nicki Minaj is a pop rapper...and YES, Iggy Azalea is a pop rapper, too. Vanilla Ice was a pop rapper just like Ja Rule was. LL Cool J - pop rapper before there was pop rap. Drake - pop rapper. Wayne - pop rapper. (but he wasn't always so; he transformed like Kanye) Black Eyed Peas became pop rappers willingly. Macklemore is a pop rapper, too. There are quite a few others, but they exist. Everybody started somewhere and grinded to be successful.

Its not coded talk. Pop rappers rap for the pop charts and/or become pop successes. Pitbulll - pop rapper. Flo Rida? Yep.

How are Em, Drake, and Wayne pop rappers?

BlaqueKnight said:

MotownSubdivision said:

SeventeenDayze said: I wouldn't say it's another way of saying "white rapper" since I (nor anyone else) would use the term to describe Eminem and his music. But honestly, Iggy is pretty much a pop artist in rapper's clothing. Macklemore can at least be given credit for hustling on his own label for many years dropping mixtape until he broke through the mainstream ceiling; at least he had a natural progression to his fame (though winning all those Grammys and that prosthetic nose stunt hurt his popularity) but The Heist just was not a pure hip hop album, it was hip pop; the very genre that Iggy is an act of though like Macklemore, is being pushed as though she's this real deal, authentic, game-changing deity that that rap game needs. #Politics

Nonsense. I was calling Eminem a pop rapper ages ago. MC Hammer was a pop rapper. Nicki Minaj is a pop rapper...and YES, Iggy Azalea is a pop rapper, too. Vanilla Ice was a pop rapper just like Ja Rule was. LL Cool J - pop rapper before there was pop rap. Drake - pop rapper. Wayne - pop rapper. (but he wasn't always so; he transformed like Kanye) Black Eyed Peas became pop rappers willingly. Macklemore is a pop rapper, too. There are quite a few others, but they exist. Everybody started somewhere and grinded to be successful.

Its not coded talk. Pop rappers rap for the pop charts and/or become pop successes. Pitbulll - pop rapper. Flo Rida? Yep.

Now, somebody pull up my thread on Iggy from a couple of years ago. I called it back then. I also said something similar about Nicki and there they are. Some people are destined for pop stardom. They wanted to make Karmin a huge pop rap act but I guess Amy wouldn't lose 150 lbs. or so. (her boyfriend/other half of the group)

They are a footnote at this point. I guess its easier to imitate a Busta Rhymes flow than it is to create one, eh?

When Iggy dropped pu$$y, I knew she was gonna be a star. She just had broke brothas managing her career. TIP heard and saw what any good marketer would see; a good-looking chick who could flow if she focused. She's a marketing dream. Don't blame Iggy for her success. She is what mainstream pop audiences want and it is their support that has made her famous. Everybody loves to hear an attractive woman talk uninhibitedly about sex. Foxy Brown and Kim were specific tastes (brothas), Nicki was prettier, biracial and more acceptable; she was also more successful. It was just a matter of time before an Iggy came along. If Megan Fox, Scarlett Johansson or Jessica Alba were unknown and came out rapping (proficiently) about sex, they would be snatched up by someone sooner or later, too.

A couple of years ago, the Iggy thread was small and only a few of us even knew who she was. She was R-rated. I said they would tone her back some and she'd blow up. Here we are.

I didn't say "white rap" I said "white rapper", meaning the actual person who was rapping was white. I find it curious that you didn't mention the Beastie Boys but I think although they were white they were not "white rappers" in the sense that they were specifically groomed (initially) to be on so-called mainstream radio. They made appearance on black music shows and it was probably because they were not trying to rip anybody off. They were feisty kids from NYC that were on the heels of a genre of music that was about to explode. These days, rap is in its 3rd generation more or less, so the novelty of rap isn't the same as it was during the Beastie Boys time.

The problem is that there are many songs or acts that eventually get what is referred to as cross over appeal but you all know that cross over appeal has always and forever will be referring to people who are white and live in non-urban areas. To say that the music industry doesn't use these phrases and other terminology would be a bit naive.

And who said Iggy was attractive? Just because she's blonde? I swear, some of the most mediocre non-black chicks stay getting a pass but a black woman has to be Halle Berry to be considered hot? That boggles the mind especially given that the vast majority of rappers in the game now are hideous (i.e. Rick Ross)

But, I guess there is something deeply imbedded in the psyche of black American men that makes them more likely to accept mediocrity from white women but just step right over an above-average black woman. If you need impirical or ancedotal evidence, I can start a new thread and chat about it there.

All I'm saying is that this Iggy chick is a blatant knockoff of Nicki Minaj. She drops two singles and become the "savior" of hip-hop. Meanwhile Nicki Minaj is being shown as a hater and you guys are buying into it hook, line and sinker. I can't think of any other group in this country that so willfully cheers on their cultural artifacts being co-opted by other groups when you seldom, if ever, see the opposite happen. Never.

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For those that appreciate historical context more than trolling, check this out:

http://raprehab.com/white-rap-and-rb-artists-talented-or-suburban-friendly/

BlaqueKnight said:

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

I thought she had some Asian in her? No? My bad.

There was that one moment in time that Nicki was being a Japanese amine character. Like I've said in many thread before, I'm still not "convince" that Nicki was or will ever been happy to be born a black woman.

TonyVanDam said:

BlaqueKnight said:

I thought she had some Asian in her? No? My bad.

There was that one moment in time that Nicki was being a Japanese amine character. Like I've said in many thread before, I'm still not "convince" that Nicki was or will ever been happy to be born a black woman.

That's a really serious accusation. On what grounds are you saying that she isn't "happy" to be born a black woman? Which other famous black women in the music business are accused of the same thing?

Maybe you're thinking of the fact that she has ancestral ties to Trinidad and maybe at one point subscribed to the ridiculous notion that some islanders have of native-born black Americans. But, once they get here, they figure out that the history, slavery, etc. that happened to those here also happened in the islands.

Are you as angry with Iggy for having her fake butt and accusing her of wanting to be a black woman because TI is her "mentor" and she parades around with a black NBA player for the Lakers?

SeventeenDayze said:

TonyVanDam said:

There was that one moment in time that Nicki was being a Japanese amine character. Like I've said in many thread before, I'm still not "convince" that Nicki was or will ever been happy to be born a black woman.

That's a really serious accusation. On what grounds are you saying that she isn't "happy" to be born a black woman? Which other famous black women in the music business are accused of the same thing?

Maybe you're thinking of the fact that she has ancestral ties to Trinidad and maybe at one point subscribed to the ridiculous notion that some islanders have of native-born black Americans. But, once they get here, they figure out that the history, slavery, etc. that happened to those here also happened in the islands.

Are you as angry with Iggy for having her fake butt and accusing her of wanting to be a black woman because TI is her "mentor" and she parades around with a black NBA player for the Lakers?

That comment he made doesn't even deserve a reply or response..

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SeventeenDayze said:

BlaqueKnight said:

Nonsense. I was calling Eminem a pop rapper ages ago. MC Hammer was a pop rapper. Nicki Minaj is a pop rapper...and YES, Iggy Azalea is a pop rapper, too. Vanilla Ice was a pop rapper just like Ja Rule was. LL Cool J - pop rapper before there was pop rap. Drake - pop rapper. Wayne - pop rapper. (but he wasn't always so; he transformed like Kanye) Black Eyed Peas became pop rappers willingly. Macklemore is a pop rapper, too. There are quite a few others, but they exist. Everybody started somewhere and grinded to be successful.

Its not coded talk. Pop rappers rap for the pop charts and/or become pop successes. Pitbulll - pop rapper. Flo Rida? Yep.

Now, somebody pull up my thread on Iggy from a couple of years ago. I called it back then. I also said something similar about Nicki and there they are. Some people are destined for pop stardom. They wanted to make Karmin a huge pop rap act but I guess Amy wouldn't lose 150 lbs. or so. (her boyfriend/other half of the group)

They are a footnote at this point. I guess its easier to imitate a Busta Rhymes flow than it is to create one, eh?

When Iggy dropped pu$$y, I knew she was gonna be a star. She just had broke brothas managing her career. TIP heard and saw what any good marketer would see; a good-looking chick who could flow if she focused. She's a marketing dream. Don't blame Iggy for her success. She is what mainstream pop audiences want and it is their support that has made her famous. Everybody loves to hear an attractive woman talk uninhibitedly about sex. Foxy Brown and Kim were specific tastes (brothas), Nicki was prettier, biracial and more acceptable; she was also more successful. It was just a matter of time before an Iggy came along. If Megan Fox, Scarlett Johansson or Jessica Alba were unknown and came out rapping (proficiently) about sex, they would be snatched up by someone sooner or later, too.

A couple of years ago, the Iggy thread was small and only a few of us even knew who she was. She was R-rated. I said they would tone her back some and she'd blow up. Here we are.

I didn't say "white rap" I said "white rapper", meaning the actual person who was rapping was white. I find it curious that you didn't mention the Beastie Boys but I think although they were white they were not "white rappers" in the sense that they were specifically groomed (initially) to be on so-called mainstream radio. They made appearance on black music shows and it was probably because they were not trying to rip anybody off. They were feisty kids from NYC that were on the heels of a genre of music that was about to explode. These days, rap is in its 3rd generation more or less, so the novelty of rap isn't the same as it was during the Beastie Boys time.

The problem is that there are many songs or acts that eventually get what is referred to as cross over appeal but you all know that cross over appeal has always and forever will be referring to people who are white and live in non-urban areas. To say that the music industry doesn't use these phrases and other terminology would be a bit naive.

And who said Iggy was attractive? Just because she's blonde? I swear, some of the most mediocre non-black chicks stay getting a pass but a black woman has to be Halle Berry to be considered hot? That boggles the mind especially given that the vast majority of rappers in the game now are hideous (i.e. Rick Ross)

But, I guess there is something deeply imbedded in the psyche of black American men that makes them more likely to accept mediocrity from white women but just step right over an above-average black woman. If you need impirical or ancedotal evidence, I can start a new thread and chat about it there.

All I'm saying is that this Iggy chick is a blatant knockoff of Nicki Minaj. She drops two singles and become the "savior" of hip-hop. Meanwhile Nicki Minaj is being shown as a hater and you guys are buying into it hook, line and sinker. I can't think of any other group in this country that so willfully cheers on their cultural artifacts being co-opted by other groups when you seldom, if ever, see the opposite happen. Never.

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First off, I'm not "buying into" anything.

I don't know where you are getting this "savior of hip-hop" stuff from but Iggy is just one artist and she is not a savior of anything as far as I can see.

You find it curious that I didn't mention The Beasty Boys?

Beasty Boys - also pop rappers before there was pop rap. There. I said "there were others." I don't have to list every freaking pop rapper there ever was and I won't.

You are saying Iggy is a blatant knockoff but she's being groomed by T.I.

"Pu$$y" doesn't sound anything like Nicki and that's the first song I heard from her. Nothing off Ignorant Art was biting NIcki's flow. Is "Fancy" biting Nicki? Hell yes. Before, she was just a chick rapping; now she has millions invested in her and those investors expect to see returns on their investments.

When Nicki dropped, I thought she was a chick with a unique style and a cool flow, even though the first pics we saw of her was her biting Lil' Kim's pose. Eventually, given time, she proved herself to be very different from Kim. Will that happen for Iggy? Don't know. WHo's to say? If she keeps biting, she will lose her buzz. She was probably under the gun by the label. It paid off for her.

For what its worth, I have never said anything negative about Nicki's style or her flow. I was posting about Nicki on here before she was big, too. Becoming a pop artist doesn't say anything about your level of talent but rather how popular you are.

As far as Iggy being attractive - black American men ain't buying her damn records, young white girls and guys are her main fan base. Now try and tell them she's not attractive and see how far it gets you. That's where the money is coming from now. Look at her shows on youtube and look at the audience.

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