What does the Org think of this?:

It's not to my own personal taste, but still, as a girl from my country, have to support her....

The Indian JLO.

She's VERY beautiful, engaging actress. I have yet to hear anything I like musically tho.

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I really don't see why she'd be compared to JLo - she just happens to be female and a pop star, doesn't mean she shares any similarities with JLo (and the latter makes RnB tinged stuff anyway, at least she used to) - PC is more "just pop".

domainator2010 said:

I really don't see why she'd be compared to JLo - she just happens to be female and a pop star, doesn't mean she shares any similarities with JLo (and the latter makes RnB tinged stuff anyway, at least she used to) - PC is more "just pop".

I should of said "could become the Indian Jlo". She has the crossover appeal, I can see her be Hollywoods 'token' beautiful Indian actress....who makes bad music.

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She has a nice voice, but why does everything these days have to have that euro/techno/dance beat. Ugh.

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My thoughts EXACTLY, lyecry. They've removed the funk from popular music these days....

domainator2010 said:

What does the Org think of this?:

It's not to my own personal taste, but still, as a girl from my country, have to support her....

U from India? I live in Chennai where r u located?

She's gorgeous as always but the music of course sucks. This being said it's like there's a gap between the majesty of Indian classical music and the daring contemporary sound of British-Indian banghra that contemporary Indian musicians have the hardest time filling, being stuck in a commercial filmi music oblivion.

I'm quite surprised though because this particular song doesn't have anything bollywoodesque about it and that's pretty uncommon for Indian pop since it always managed so far to keep a very distinct sound instead of just copying american pop (contrarly, for example, to modern Chinese pop). I mean she could b American it would sound just the same. It's still totally empty but it's Western-empty, not Bolly-empty

Er databank, I'm the guy you've been corresponding with, we talked about Paris and stuff, did you forget....?

Priyanka, I think, wants to make English music, and, should be encouraged. However, all the stuff she's put out so far has come with a caveat - In My City was FANTASTIC and I *loved* it - but it was written by Americans, Exotic I did NOT like, the lyrics - "I'm hotter than the tropics" - what the fuck is THAT all about?, and now this one, which is simply a remake...

Let's hope the NEXT single will simply be GOOD, and nothing else

I'm not really clued in to French pop, but the little I've heard long long time ago, makes me think that I could make the exact same comments about YOUR country's music, so don't get too ahead of yourself, French boy!....

... and it's spelt "bhangra".

domainator2010 said:

Er databank, I'm the guy you've been corresponding with, we talked about Paris and stuff, did you forget....?

Priyanka, I think, wants to make English music, and, should be encouraged. However, all the stuff she's put out so far has come with a caveat - In My City was FANTASTIC and I *loved* it - but it was written by Americans, Exotic I did NOT like, the lyrics - "I'm hotter than the tropics" - what the fuck is THAT all about?, and now this one, which is simply a remake...

Let's hope the NEXT single will simply be GOOD, and nothing else

I'm not really clued in to French pop, but the little I've heard long long time ago, makes me think that I could make the exact same comments about YOUR country's music, so don't get too ahead of yourself, French boy!....

Oh sorry I'd completely forgotten what ur orgname was, I have a tendency to forget who pple r on the Org the minute I start talking 2 them outside of the org.

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French music... big topic. First let me say that I'm not so much into it and I don't listen to a lot of it (mostly I listen to US, UK and Japanese and I really have a thing for Indian classical music as well) but basically we had our tradition of folk music (chanson française) that was maintained and evolved to modernize itself all along the 20th century, based a lot on lyrics, many of them controversial or thought provoking. On the other hand, like most western european countries we followed the American and British trends as soon as they'd happen starting in the early 50's if not earlier, that'd be when we developped our jazz scene, then came rock n roll in the late 50's, then everything else from psychedelic rock to funk to new wave, hip-hop and electronica, u name it. Because of the limitations of our language our music didn't get much international attention until the 90's, when our rap scene attracted attention if only for its diversity (we have been qualified as being world #2 nation of hip-hop after the US but if u ask me it's only a matter of quantity because most of our rap sucks) then with electronic acts that were intrumental or dared make the step of singing in English (it's more and more common nowadays in French electronica). What can be found in all those genres, from our traditional chanson française to electronica, is that there's always been a preocupation for artistic integrity and being avant-garde (of course we have our fair share of mainstream commercial crap and always had, but this coexisted with an underground scene in every possible genre as early as the 50's if not earlier). Same with movies: we had avant-garde filmmakers very early and they became a really big thing starting in the late 50's with the nouvelle vague movement (but I don't really like French films either, the US is my place when it comes to movies). Now if u ask me until the mid 90's there were only 3 modern music scenes in the world that made sense: the US, UK and Japan. For the last 25 years, though, France and several other european countries (notably Germany, the Netherlands and Sweden) have developped solid alternative music scenes that can now rival the big 3 above at least in some genres. Nonetheless, when u dig u can find true pearls, very daring and innovative things as far back as the 50's and I guess the same can be said more or less about every Western country. Same with movies, it's only for the last 10 years that our narrative and technical skills have quit being 20 years late on the US.

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So no, the comparison with India makes little sense because there's an anthropological reality that separated popular arts in developped countries from its developping countries counterparts as early as the late 19th century.

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Traditionally, everywhere in the world, arts fulfilled 3 purposes: first was religion/rituals/transmission of knowledge, then there was popular entertainment (folk art) and finally the more elevated "classical" arts that were more of an elite thing (no one outside of the aristocracy knew who Mozart or Shakespeare were when they were alive).

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What happened at some point in the 19th century and even more in the first part of the 20th century in Western countries is that all of a sudden artists challenged those 3 categories. They challenged traditions by being progressive taboo-breakers and they started to merge the intellectual elitism of elite arts with the entertaining values of popular/folk art, leading to thought-provoking pieces of arts that could be enjoyed by the masses without necessarly being emptied of any thought-provoking or intellectual content.

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What I can see in developing countries is that art is still stuck in a no man's land between its original ritual/elite uses and its folkloric entertainment values, with virtually no room for avant-garde and zero interest from most of the population -outside of the elites of course- for such a thing. I met several educated artists in China or India that wanted to do contemporary, thought-provoking forms of art in their respective domain and were totally frustrated because they told me there's no audience, no corporate interest, no money to make, no place to show their work, nothing. There's also the problem of tradition: the more traditional a society the less room for any controversial art that would challenge said tradition. There's also the question of material development: when u make 15,000 rupees a month, have to take care of both ur retired folks and wife and kids, u just have no time nor interest for art outside of purely entertaining values and u have no interest in artforms that may challenge your society's values because you are so stuck in said values that there's no way out, even intellectually. U just want to be entertained.

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This has changed in Japan the minute Japan became a developped country and it'll change in India, China and everywhere else as they will develop. India has already developed an astounding body of work in English litterature over the last 20 years, with many authors that rival the best French or American writers and challenge the Indian society with their writings. Unfortunately most of the non-English masses don't have access to those texts and IDK in which measure non-English Indian literature has followed the same pattern of modernization or not (maybe u could enlighten me?).

There are also some tentatives in cinema (Deepa Metha is the most well knwn example of a true cinematic artist and the first to complain that her audience is more international than Indian) and music (there's a small electronic scene in Mumbai for example) as well as contemporary arts, contemporary dance and whatever, but for now this is mostly artists from the educated upper middle class addressing an audience from same classes. My Indian friends who are painters, musicians or photographers don't make money and the only people interested in their art are small groups of trendy hipsters and educated folks from Mumbai, Pune, Delhi or Chennai.

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A HUGE asset India has by comparison to many others is a complete mastering of the technical aspect. In many developping countries u just watch the films and they look like Western films from the 80's and the music sounds like recorded by a bunch of amateurs in a home studio, it tends to change but it's still very much like that. On the other hand any filmi music is now perfectly recorded, composed by top-notch composers, played by top-notch musicians and engineered by top-notch engineers. Same goes with the movies: Indian directors master the art of making movies and the most modern narrative techniques and technical tools just as well as any American director. So the day the Indian public is ready to make non-commercial/non-mainstream music and movies a common thing, I think it's going to be just mind blowing, but it's not for tomorrow yet. First India needs to get rid of its extreme poverty, corruption and improve the education of the masses (the level of education of the upper-middle and upper classes is awesome in India BTW, once again by comparison to many other developing countries, but it's only 20 to 30% of the entire population). The big bang will happen when local equivalents of musicians like Prince or directors like David Lynch can become major stars in India and when u have lower-middle class people buying their music and going to the theater to watch their movies.

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So basically no the French music scene, in essence, cannot be compared to the Indian music scene and it's mostly a matter of anthropology that's a direct consequence of what happens to a society and its people when its economic standards improve, certainly not a matter of a country or a cultural tradition being "better" than the other. Art in India faces the same problems art faces in every developing country and those problems will progressively be solved as India develops itself.

They turned this song into EDM?

She's hot but should stick to acting, where she truly shines. I get why she did this though, she did grow up in America briefly and was vocally trained so I know it's not to cash in on her fame completely