Okay, so it seems that "Kimye" is off to the races but it seems like it could be the beginning of the end of Kanye's career on some level. What do you guys think? Will Kim sink Kanye financially?

It would be her single greatest accomplishment.

bobzilla77 said:

It would be her single greatest accomplishment.

That's funny It seems like this could be a turning point for Kanye because I don't think this marriage is going to help him at all.

SeventeenDayze said:

Okay, so it seems that "Kimye" is off to the races but it seems like it could be the beginning of the end of Kanye's career on some level. What do you guys think? Will Kim sink Kanye financially?

Nope. Kanye's mouth and his silly antics will eventually do him in.

thesoulbrother said:

SeventeenDayze said:

Okay, so it seems that "Kimye" is off to the races but it seems like it could be the beginning of the end of Kanye's career on some level. What do you guys think? Will Kim sink Kanye financially?

Nope. Kanye's mouth and his silly antics will eventually do him in.

That made me laugh It's almost as if his "street cred" took a nosedive into depths of the sea....

Dude's been on top for 10 years, it will change regardless of his marriage.

Cinny said:

Dude's been on top for 10 years, it will change regardless of his marriage.

So perhaps he's "re-branding" himself by joining the Jenner/Kardashian folks?

What exactly is on top of though? This is what i dont get with todays music talk, hes a MEDIA star, if you want to say he is always in the spotlight and that is "the top" than i agree, but musically? Albums have a shelf life of 2 weeks now, music serves no long impact, so when he does an album he is on top for a week or two than its on to the next 2 week run. Dont get what the "top" is. Music and "The Top" are two totally different things, if music sold still and had universal appeal i would say it was possible but NOT.

lastdecember said:

What exactly is on top of though? This is what i dont get with todays music talk, hes a MEDIA star, if you want to say he is always in the spotlight and that is "the top" than i agree, but musically? Albums have a shelf life of 2 weeks now, music serves no long impact, so when he does an album he is on top for a week or two than its on to the next 2 week run. Dont get what the "top" is. Music and "The Top" are two totally different things, if music sold still and had universal appeal i would say it was possible but NOT.

You say the same thing in every single thread. Do you ever get tired?

lastdecember said:

What exactly is on top of though? This is what i dont get with todays music talk, hes a MEDIA star, if you want to say he is always in the spotlight and that is "the top" than i agree, but musically? Albums have a shelf life of 2 weeks now, music serves no long impact, so when he does an album he is on top for a week or two than its on to the next 2 week run. Dont get what the "top" is. Music and "The Top" are two totally different things, if music sold still and had universal appeal i would say it was possible but NOT.

That's true about the fact that he's a media star and that the shelf life of music is about two weeks. The short life spans probably send artists like Kanye into a tailspin because they want to remain relevant (i.e. Jay-Z)...

lastdecember said:

Kanye lost his edge LONG time ago way before Kim. I think he will still have a career but he will be known more as a media star and a light weight. He was a promising artist and it is sad that he hooked up with Camel and water down his music. He gets more attention for his antics versus his music. I think his mother's passing really had a big impact on him.

mjscarousal said:

Kanye lost his edge LONG time ago way before Kim. I think he will still have a career but he will be known more as a media star and a light weight. He was a promising artist and it is sad that he hooked up with Camel and water down his music. He gets more attention for his antics versus his music. I think his mother's passing really had a big impact on him.

Agree with you about the death of his mom affecting him. So, you think that Jay-Z watered down Kanye? How so? Maybe Jay was feeling threatened by Kanye back in the mid-2000s when Kanye was getting critical acclaim for his work.

IIAGY said:

lastdecember said:

What exactly is on top of though? This is what i dont get with todays music talk, hes a MEDIA star, if you want to say he is always in the spotlight and that is "the top" than i agree, but musically? Albums have a shelf life of 2 weeks now, music serves no long impact, so when he does an album he is on top for a week or two than its on to the next 2 week run. Dont get what the "top" is. Music and "The Top" are two totally different things, if music sold still and had universal appeal i would say it was possible but NOT.

Do you live under a rock? 6 #1 albums A few #1 singles Over 50 million records sold worldwide Countless awards Critical acclaim (a few of his album in RS top 500 albums) One of the biggest names in hip-hop His only mishap was his last album, the content and the way it was released If Mange gets back to being Kanye his career could easily last another decade.

Ok again you are talking about a business that is non existent, he is a MEDIA star yes, Music is secondary to him not even put it third or fourth in importance and what people know him for. 6#1 albums OK well look at what it takes to have a number one album now for a MAINSTREAM artist, mariah carey is about to debut at number 3 with 60,000 albums sold, how many people are in the USA billions, do the math on that relevance of the MUSIC on that record, seperate the MUSIC from the media hypes and glitz and you have very little. Critical aclaim OK, that is meaningless too, to writers of magazines and critics its nice, but RADIOHEAD have endless acclaim as a band through the entire 90s and on, about 90% of america have a clue who they are or one song by them. Media star and your name being everywhere is different now, Music is not a relevant form today in the big picture people need to except this, it may be to us as indivduals but when a number 3 album sells 60,000 copies its a new day for music now.

Yeah media stars don't really have to DO anything but be someone the media has interest in covering. Kimye are perfect examples of that. It's like being a musician yet starring in a reality show. Your music automatically becomes irrelevant, because TV requires drama and emotion. You need to act out in some way, be it comical, confrontational or any other emotional buzzword to get the media talking about you and interested. Everyone knows kanye upstaged taylor Swift on some award show. hardly anyone knows he had an album out last year.

CynicKill said:

Yeah media stars don't really have to DO anything but be someone the media has interest in covering. Kimye are perfect examples of that. It's like being a musician yet starring in a reality show. Your music automatically becomes irrelevant, because TV requires drama and emotion. You need to act out in some way, be it comical, confrontational or any other emotional buzzword to get the media talking about you and interested. Everyone knows kanye upstaged taylor Swift on some award show. hardly anyone knows he had an album out last year.

That's very true. It seems that music fans have a short attention span so the next move a lot of singers make is to steer themselves in acting, whether it's reality TV, real TV or in movies. Think about all the former rappers from the 90s now who are actors these days.

CynicKill said:

Yeah media stars don't really have to DO anything but be someone the media has interest in covering. Kimye are perfect examples of that. It's like being a musician yet starring in a reality show. Your music automatically becomes irrelevant, because TV requires drama and emotion. You need to act out in some way, be it comical, confrontational or any other emotional buzzword to get the media talking about you and interested. Everyone knows kanye upstaged taylor Swift on some award show. hardly anyone knows he had an album out last year.

thats exactly it. He can still debut at Number One, and so can Avenged Sevenfold, by selling about 100-200 thousand records, in a country of billions that is just not the ratio music has ever had to deal with.

SeventeenDayze said:

CynicKill said:

Yeah media stars don't really have to DO anything but be someone the media has interest in covering. Kimye are perfect examples of that. It's like being a musician yet starring in a reality show. Your music automatically becomes irrelevant, because TV requires drama and emotion. You need to act out in some way, be it comical, confrontational or any other emotional buzzword to get the media talking about you and interested. Everyone knows kanye upstaged taylor Swift on some award show. hardly anyone knows he had an album out last year.

That's very true. It seems that music fans have a short attention span so the next move a lot of singers make is to steer themselves in acting, whether it's reality TV, real TV or in movies. Think about all the former rappers from the 90s now who are actors these days.

And also think about todays mainstreamers too, Selena Gomez, actress,fashion line, perfume line, tv stuff, oh by the way sings, Kanye, 50Cent, Jay Z, clothing lines, sports teams, headphones, oh and by the way they do music, Beyonce, etc... its all the same. This is all started years ago way back when LL started doing a clothing line, thing is now there is no money or numbers in music, but in the other worlds there are thats why music is a side dish.

lastdecember said:

SeventeenDayze said:

That's very true. It seems that music fans have a short attention span so the next move a lot of singers make is to steer themselves in acting, whether it's reality TV, real TV or in movies. Think about all the former rappers from the 90s now who are actors these days.

And also think about todays mainstreamers too, Selena Gomez, actress,fashion line, perfume line, tv stuff, oh by the way sings, Kanye, 50Cent, Jay Z, clothing lines, sports teams, headphones, oh and by the way they do music, Beyonce, etc... its all the same. This is all started years ago way back when LL started doing a clothing line, thing is now there is no money or numbers in music, but in the other worlds there are thats why music is a side dish.

You're right. It's also an indicator of how much "marketing" produces stars, whether they have talent or not is a question no one seems to ask anymore...

mjscarousal said:

Kanye lost his edge LONG time ago way before Kim. I think he will still have a career but he will be known more as a media star and a light weight. He was a promising artist and it is sad that he hooked up with Camel and water down his music. He gets more attention for his antics versus his music. I think his mother's passing really had a big impact on him.

Kanye means business man!

Gunsnhalen said:

lastdecember said:

What exactly is on top of though? This is what i dont get with todays music talk, hes a MEDIA star, if you want to say he is always in the spotlight and that is "the top" than i agree, but musically? Albums have a shelf life of 2 weeks now, music serves no long impact, so when he does an album he is on top for a week or two than its on to the next 2 week run. Dont get what the "top" is. Music and "The Top" are two totally different things, if music sold still and had universal appeal i would say it was possible but NOT.

You say the same thing in every single thread. Do you ever get tired?

Why would he get tired of saying what is true. The fact that anyone thinks that Kayne has any musical talent at all is laughable. He is a media star with not one shread of musical talent and no one is even going to remember anything he did with music in a few years. The will remember is idea of leather jogging pants.

laurarichardson said:

Gunsnhalen said:

You say the same thing in every single thread. Do you ever get tired?

Why would he get tired of saying what is true. The fact that anyone thinks that Kayne has any musical talent at all is laughable. He is a media star with not one shread of musical talent and no one is even going to remember anything he did with music in a few years. The will remember is idea of leather jogging pants.

Here's something else to consider. Remember like a year or two ago that certain pinheads in the music biz were trying to say that Kanye is a musical genius in the same way that Prince is? I couldn't believe it. I don't know how you measure musical genius in the first place but Kanye could never have the diversity of sound in his music that Prince has had. Nobody will duplicate Prince's level of creativity. I think Kanye has a brillian hype machine/PR team that keeps him "relevant" but I'm not sure what direction his music will go in the next few years. He's kind of a nursery rhyme rapper but it doesn't seem to me that he's as lyrically talented as other rappers. I think his marriage to KK is the final nail in the coffin. He puts this chick on some crazy pedastal all while his career is in jeopardy.

yaw yaw i like old music i'm better than you yaw yaw. Alright i'm going to go and listen to jazz and mean mug in the blues section.

alphastreet said:

Kanye means business man!

Exactly!

Everything he does is ejaculated oops I mean calculated up to the final detail. He is similar to Prince in that way. Even going as far as releasing a new song the weekend of his wedding.

Kanye is happy now! He really is a cool dude. Anyone that has met and talked to him out of the glaring eye of the paparazzi knows that. Even me. Kim has heightened his profile. Plus they created the most beautiful offspring out of all the entertainers together. He has finally found inner peace after losing his mother so tragically.

Kco0L

[Edited 6/2/14 3:43am]

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

alphastreet said:

Kanye means business man!

Exactly!

Everything he does is ejaculated oops I mean calculated up to the final detail. He is similar to Prince in that way. Even going as far as releasing a new song the weekend of his wedding.

Kanye is happy now! He really is a cool dude. Anyone that has met and talked to him out of the glaring eye of the paparazzi knows that. Even me. Kim has heightened his profile. Plus they created the most beautiful offspring out of all the entertainers together. He has finally found inner peace after losing his mother so tragically.

Kco0L

[Edited 6/2/14 3:43am]

Are you being sarcastic, Kcool? Sorry but I don't think he's on Prince's level in any way at all and I really don't see how Kim has elevated career. She's famous for doing nothing and Kanye actually has a profession that made him famous. I guess sometimes water doesn't always seek its own level.

SeventeenDayze said:

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

Exactly!

Everything he does is ejaculated oops I mean calculated up to the final detail. He is similar to Prince in that way. Even going as far as releasing a new song the weekend of his wedding.

Kanye is happy now! He really is a cool dude. Anyone that has met and talked to him out of the glaring eye of the paparazzi knows that. Even me. Kim has heightened his profile. Plus they created the most beautiful offspring out of all the entertainers together. He has finally found inner peace after losing his mother so tragically.

Kco0L

[Edited 6/2/14 3:43am]

Are you being sarcastic, Kcool? Sorry but I don't think he's on Prince's level in any way at all and I really don't see how Kim has elevated career. She's famous for doing nothing and Kanye actually has a profession that made him famous. I guess sometimes water doesn't always seek its own level.

I never said he was on Prince's level(NO ONE IS). But their promotions of products are similar that things coincide with other things their doing. Also they both are multi taskers.I guess that's a Gemini thing.

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

SeventeenDayze said:

Are you being sarcastic, Kcool? Sorry but I don't think he's on Prince's level in any way at all and I really don't see how Kim has elevated career. She's famous for doing nothing and Kanye actually has a profession that made him famous. I guess sometimes water doesn't always seek its own level.

I never said he was on Prince's level(NO ONE IS). But their promotions of products are similar that things coincide with other things their doing. Also they both are multi taskers.I guess that's a Gemini thing.

Oh ok, you were referring to their work ethic/habits and not their sound. Okay that makes sense I was wondering if you were following the lead of some music "critics" who were putting it out there a few years ago that Kanye was the new Prince But, I saw a clip of Kanye on some show where he said that the Kardashians are the most remarkable people in the world and the babbled about how wonderful Kim is. Man, is this guy blind or is he using THEM to stay relevant?