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Boy George Irving Plaza TOUR review (spoilers)

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George quoted Eckhart Tolle telling the crowd to stay in the now and songs included "Feel the Vibration," "Live Your Life" and George proclaimed that "love is bigger than war" during the track "Bigger Than War." George, who seemed happy to be back on the New York stage soaked up the love that the crowd (which included Miss Guy and Debbie Harry) was showering him with. He told funny anecdotes in between songs and thanked the crowd for not talking too loudly to each other during the new songs. He especially thanked the crowd for supporting his new album

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Reply #1 posted 04/23/14 3:35pm

Nick715

While I like what I'm hearing on the new album, I have to say his voice or his singing style is so different now. Something about his vibrato.

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Reply #2 posted 04/26/14 10:27pm

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I experienced his show in DC. Worst show I have ever been to in my life. This man will never get a cent of my money ever again. He played almost nothing but the new album. I think it's great to do a few new songs, but so many? And every song was so slow and boring. He was disrespectful to the audience also. I want a refund.

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Reply #3 posted 04/27/14 5:36am

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How was he disrespectful to the audience?

What did he do?
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Reply #4 posted 04/27/14 8:24am

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Well its everyone's right to not like a show, you go to a movie and dont like it same thing, i mean you buy a cd and dont like it etc...BUT lets be real with art and things like that (creative stuff) you take the risk, the only thing your ticket gets you is the artists showing up for the show.

As for doing things to the audience that is different what was done? were people booing because he wasnt doing old songs, and he shot back? Did he throw things at people like Axl Rose, to my knowledge that guy has never given a dime back for disrespect, how about PRINCE showing up 4 hours late to a General Admission show in NYC back in 1999 halfe the people got tired and left (no refund for their tickets) when he took the stage no "im sorry" at all.


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Reply #5 posted 04/27/14 1:04pm

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is anybody going to the LA show? PM me

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Reply #6 posted 04/27/14 1:09pm

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amit1234 said:

How was he disrespectful to the audience? What did he do?

People were talking because they were bored because he did so many new songs all in a row and they were slow boring and acoustic and reggae. He said that people in France know who to listen, but people in America don't because we are all drunk.

For the first couple of songs, it wasn't too bad because he alternated his old songs with his new songs and did some uptempo rock and R&B and it bogged down in all these new reggae acoustic songs that no one knew. But he did so few of his older songs, not just CC but very little of his earlier solo material. I think if the whole audience is talking, just maybe an artist should look at themselves and think that maybe they are not putting on a good show not blame the audience

I'm sorry but artists should not just show up. They should give up a good performance and show some kind of gratitude to their paying customers. Without people coming to their show, they would be nothing. Just because other artists like Axl Rose and Prince have done similiar things doesn't mean it makes it right for Boy George to behave this way. But for some reason, Boy George can't be criticized, I guess because he's gay, wears makeup and a nice hat.. I learned my lesson though, I will never see him again ever.

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Reply #7 posted 04/27/14 3:56pm

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Glindathegood said:

amit1234 said:

How was he disrespectful to the audience? What did he do?

People were talking because they were bored because he did so many new songs all in a row and they were slow boring and acoustic and reggae. He said that people in France know who to listen, but people in America don't because we are all drunk.

For the first couple of songs, it wasn't too bad because he alternated his old songs with his new songs and did some uptempo rock and R&B and it bogged down in all these new reggae acoustic songs that no one knew. But he did so few of his older songs, not just CC but very little of his earlier solo material. I think if the whole audience is talking, just maybe an artist should look at themselves and think that maybe they are not putting on a good show not blame the audience

I'm sorry but artists should not just show up. They should give up a good performance and show some kind of gratitude to their paying customers. Without people coming to their show, they would be nothing. Just because other artists like Axl Rose and Prince have done similiar things doesn't mean it makes it right for Boy George to behave this way. But for some reason, Boy George can't be criticized, I guess because he's gay, wears makeup and a nice hat.. I learned my lesson though, I will never see him again ever.

Not saying he deserves a pass by any means but what i am saying is an artist like Prince always gets a pass, him showing 4 hours late here in NYC i can guarantee you was not his first time pulling that shit as other org members who have seen him know, and yet, who has ever voiced it?

Concert set lists are up to the artist i know people dont like to hear it, and YES they had hits because of US. BUT they have the right to play what they want, and NOT play what they want. The Band HEART as a rule almost doesnt play 2 of their biggest HITS almost ever "Magic Man" "All I wanna Do is make love to you" both were mega, the latter being a Number 2 hit in 1990, and they NEVER play it live, and alot of artists mix it up. If its the new music you dislike or an artists change in direction then that is your right to just not see them anymore. Not trying to sound like they can do what they want, but honestly why do they have to play laundry lists of hits from 30 years ago every time they go on stage? Do we go to see the same movie 40 times? It sucks but at the end if they do a show, its all opinion for what they do, as for their behaviour, I know 30 years ago Boy George was an asshole to people and arrogant.


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Reply #8 posted 04/28/14 10:34am

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Glinda is to Boy George, what Bart is to the org!
If it breaks when it bends, U better not put it in!
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Reply #9 posted 04/29/14 4:48am

Glindathegood

lastdecember said:


Not saying he deserves a pass by any means but what i am saying is an artist like Prince always gets a pass, him showing 4 hours late here in NYC i can guarantee you was not his first time pulling that shit as other org members who have seen him know, and yet, who has ever voiced it?

Concert set lists are up to the artist i know people dont like to hear it, and YES they had hits because of US. BUT they have the right to play what they want, and NOT play what they want. The Band HEART as a rule almost doesnt play 2 of their biggest HITS almost ever "Magic Man" "All I wanna Do is make love to you" both were mega, the latter being a Number 2 hit in 1990, and they NEVER play it live, and alot of artists mix it up. If its the new music you dislike or an artists change in direction then that is your right to just not see them anymore. Not trying to sound like they can do what they want, but honestly why do they have to play laundry lists of hits from 30 years ago every time they go on stage? Do we go to see the same movie 40 times? It sucks but at the end if they do a show, its all opinion for what they do, as for their behaviour, I know 30 years ago Boy George was an asshole to people and arrogant.

I don't think an artist should play nothing but music from 30 years ago, but I don't think just play music from their current album either. I like shows that highlight all of a performer's music from throughout their career. People are fans because they have followed a person over the years. It's about having a balance, and choosing songs from all stages of their career. The older songs don't even have to be all hits; hearing album tracks from older albums is wonderful. I also like a variation in the pace and genre of music at concert so you take the audience on a journey. He did almost all slow songs with a very repetitive reggae beat thereby putting the audience to sleep. But to hear almost nothing but current music from the most recent album just doesn't work Yes, an artist has a right to play what they want, but the audience has a right to not respond. George was not mixing it up but playing almost 80% of songs from the new album and covers that no one knew or wanted to hear.

As far as his attitude, I just find him hypocritical in that he gives all these interviews claiming he's changed and is all positive now, but his behavior is the opposite of that. If someone is kind of bitchy but they own it and don't pretend that they are the nicest kindest person, I can respect that. But if you are a phony fake person who says you are one way, and act the exact opposite, I don't respect t hat.

To me, putting on a bad show with horrible music and a bad attitude is far worse than being late. Being late to me is not that big a deal. I can talk with my friends or have a few drinks or something. I don't mind if a performer is late if when they show up, they give me money's worth.

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Reply #10 posted 04/29/14 8:39am

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dang...i was mad at myself for not getting off of work on time to get to the 9:30 club in dc...was looking forward to a good concert...glad i missed it (but sorry for you)

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Reply #11 posted 04/29/14 11:37am

JakePlum

I was at the San Francisco show last night--and it was a great show and fun was had by all.

It was not a Culture Club show--it was a Boy George show. He has an album out--and it's a really good album--and it was evident ahead of time that this tour was in support of that album. So I did what makes sense--I got the album weeks ago and have been listening to it a ton and was ready any happy to hear it performed live.

9 people on stage, including a female back-up singer and a 3-piece brass section. They played every track from the current album and 1 of the 3 bonus tracks that came out recently. There were also a couple covers, including a Bob Dylan song many people in the audience seemed to know. He sang three big Culture Club singles--mostly in the second half of the show--and a few of his solo singles (Bow Down Mister, Everything I Own, and a highlight of the night...To Be Reborn). The only old song I wish he's played but didn't was Time.

Anyway, it was just the type of tracklist I expected and it was a great show. His voice sounded great--better, possibly, than on the albm itself. He was in great spirits and gave and received plenty of love from the crowd.

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Reply #12 posted 04/29/14 3:52pm

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Glindathegood said:

lastdecember said:

Not saying he deserves a pass by any means but what i am saying is an artist like Prince always gets a pass, him showing 4 hours late here in NYC i can guarantee you was not his first time pulling that shit as other org members who have seen him know, and yet, who has ever voiced it?

Concert set lists are up to the artist i know people dont like to hear it, and YES they had hits because of US. BUT they have the right to play what they want, and NOT play what they want. The Band HEART as a rule almost doesnt play 2 of their biggest HITS almost ever "Magic Man" "All I wanna Do is make love to you" both were mega, the latter being a Number 2 hit in 1990, and they NEVER play it live, and alot of artists mix it up. If its the new music you dislike or an artists change in direction then that is your right to just not see them anymore. Not trying to sound like they can do what they want, but honestly why do they have to play laundry lists of hits from 30 years ago every time they go on stage? Do we go to see the same movie 40 times? It sucks but at the end if they do a show, its all opinion for what they do, as for their behaviour, I know 30 years ago Boy George was an asshole to people and arrogant.

I don't think an artist should play nothing but music from 30 years ago, but I don't think just play music from their current album either. I like shows that highlight all of a performer's music from throughout their career. People are fans because they have followed a person over the years. It's about having a balance, and choosing songs from all stages of their career. The older songs don't even have to be all hits; hearing album tracks from older albums is wonderful. I also like a variation in the pace and genre of music at concert so you take the audience on a journey. He did almost all slow songs with a very repetitive reggae beat thereby putting the audience to sleep. But to hear almost nothing but current music from the most recent album just doesn't work Yes, an artist has a right to play what they want, but the audience has a right to not respond. George was not mixing it up but playing almost 80% of songs from the new album and covers that no one knew or wanted to hear.

As far as his attitude, I just find him hypocritical in that he gives all these interviews claiming he's changed and is all positive now, but his behavior is the opposite of that. If someone is kind of bitchy but they own it and don't pretend that they are the nicest kindest person, I can respect that. But if you are a phony fake person who says you are one way, and act the exact opposite, I don't respect t hat.

To me, putting on a bad show with horrible music and a bad attitude is far worse than being late. Being late to me is not that big a deal. I can talk with my friends or have a few drinks or something. I don't mind if a performer is late if when they show up, they give me money's worth.

Though i agree, i still say that lateness is a form of disrespect, i can understand a delay, at the even i spoke of about PRINCE he was coming from the "web award show" and they claimed that his gear was unable to be moved right away that was why he was delayed, this delay was said to be an hour that turned into 4 and they we later found out PRINCE was partying elsewhere prior, now that is straight up rude because people left, i mean its not an hour, people were let into the venue (GENERAL ADMISSION so no seating) had to stand, were told one thing and then four hours later he shows, granted he played a great show, BUT id say 50% of the people left losing their money because they couldnt stand up anymore in a crammed room. this was not the first time he did this, he actually has a rep for doing this. Now afterparties he does are another story, but selling tickets with a time on it for the show, and not delivering is rude, maybe not as rude as cursing at an audience, but in a way its just as bad, because you made people who paid go through that.


"We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F
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Reply #13 posted 04/29/14 8:48pm

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Back to the topic at hand

he didnt touch the second release High Hat aka Nervous Tense Headache aka Boyfried but the above gem is from SOLD his debut

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Reply #14 posted 04/30/14 6:11am

Glindathegood

JakePlum said:

I was at the San Francisco show last night--and it was a great show and fun was had by all.

It was not a Culture Club show--it was a Boy George show. He has an album out--and it's a really good album--and it was evident ahead of time that this tour was in support of that album. So I did what makes sense--I got the album weeks ago and have been listening to it a ton and was ready any happy to hear it performed live.

9 people on stage, including a female back-up singer and a 3-piece brass section. They played every track from the current album and 1 of the 3 bonus tracks that came out recently. There were also a couple covers, including a Bob Dylan song many people in the audience seemed to know. He sang three big Culture Club singles--mostly in the second half of the show--and a few of his solo singles (Bow Down Mister, Everything I Own, and a highlight of the night...To Be Reborn). The only old song I wish he's played but didn't was Time.

Anyway, it was just the type of tracklist I expected and it was a great show. His voice sounded great--better, possibly, than on the albm itself. He was in great spirits and gave and received plenty of love from the crowd.

People keep saying it's not a CC show. I never said or expected it to be all CC songs. But if it's a Boy George show, why not perform more of your older solo music? And why perform so many covers, that's not Boy George either. I have no problem with performing a few songs from the album. I totally understand he has to promote the album. But not all of the album and every song on it. Touring in support of an album does not mean you perform the whole album. It means you perform some songs but mixed in with a selection of your whole catalogue. I know he wants to hear the new stuff. But the way he went about it was counter productive. People would actually have been more open to the new stuff if he fitted in more older stuff, instead they were annoyed and pissed off.

A set list that would have worked would have been 3-4 new songs, the rest split equally between CC and his older solo work and one cover. Whether George likes it or not, CC though is part of his life and career and he's part of CC. You can't totally separate the two.

Another problem was why put all the older and better known songs at the end. He lost the audience by then. Distribute them equally throughout the show.

He definitely did not get love from the DC crowd. Maybe from the hardcores in the front row but most of the audience was bored.

But no valid criticism of Mr. George is allowed. If you try to make valid points, all certain fans can say you're stuck in the 80's and want just CC which is not what I said at all. I guess some Boy George fans have a problem with reading comprehension.

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Reply #15 posted 04/30/14 6:15am

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lastdecember said:


Though i agree, i still say that lateness is a form of disrespect, i can understand a delay, at the even i spoke of about PRINCE he was coming from the "web award show" and they claimed that his gear was unable to be moved right away that was why he was delayed, this delay was said to be an hour that turned into 4 and they we later found out PRINCE was partying elsewhere prior, now that is straight up rude because people left, i mean its not an hour, people were let into the venue (GENERAL ADMISSION so no seating) had to stand, were told one thing and then four hours later he shows, granted he played a great show, BUT id say 50% of the people left losing their money because they couldnt stand up anymore in a crammed room. this was not the first time he did this, he actually has a rep for doing this. Now afterparties he does are another story, but selling tickets with a time on it for the show, and not delivering is rude, maybe not as rude as cursing at an audience, but in a way its just as bad, because you made people who paid go through that.

But with a lot of artists who show up allegedly late, fans know they do. Fans know from the Internet and forums what time an artist usually starts even though it may not be the time on the ticket.They show up at the same time every night, although it's much later than the actual time on the ticket. Now if an artist shows up sometime early and sometime late it might be a bigger issue. I agree that it's a bigger issue if it's standing, but some artists that show up late play in seated venues.

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