Reply #300 posted 06/14/14 6:33pm
suga10 |
She needs Tommy Mottola back.
He always knew how to bring out the best in her. |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
Reply #301 posted 06/15/14 1:15pm
119 |
I guess I am alone in thinking that her time has simply come and gone. She had a very long, successful run and now it is just over.
Isn't that natural? Isn't that ok? |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
Reply #302 posted 06/15/14 1:35pm
SeventeenDayze |
119 said:
I guess I am alone in thinking that her time has simply come and gone. She had a very long, successful run and now it is just over.
Isn't that natural? Isn't that ok?
Maybe it's kind of like the way athletes have their prime and then their twilight years. She's been at this 25 years. It's possible to keep going but she has to re-invent herself. Trolls be gone! |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
Reply #303 posted 06/15/14 4:14pm
RnBAmbassador |
showbiz 411
Mariah Carey has proven to be the most elusive chanteuse. Her latest album, “Me I Am Mariah, The Elusive Chanteuse” has crashed and burned. Fast. Despite great reviews, “Me I am Mariah” is now number 157 on iTunes and 75 amazon.com. It was released on May 27th, just two and a half weeks ago. Saleswise, the album has sold a paltry 75,000 copies through this past Sunday and probably not too many more after that.
The failure of “Me I Am Mariah” should be a lesson for everyone in her age group and generation still recording and releasing music. Jennifer Lopez should be watching all of this very carefully. Carey took off five years after her last album, and even that CD was not a smash hit. Carey’s last real hit album was “The Emancipation of Mimi” in 2005.
But “Memoirs of An Imperfect Angel” (2009) had no hit singles and was already signalling that Carey had aged out of the hit pop radio market. “Memoirs” sold only 550,000 copies, a far cry from its predecessors.
Now Carey faces a total write off of “Me I Am” unless DefJam can figure out a way to resuscitate it. But even electric shock paddles may not be enough. Mariah needs to drop the Diva act (including campy stuff like being photographed on the subway in a tight fitting ball gown). Her best bet is a knock out, heart string pulling video for the George Michael gospel song “One More Try,” or something witty and self-parodying for the upbeat “Thirsty.”
Music Royalty in Motion |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
Reply #304 posted 06/15/14 6:00pm
SeventeenDayze |
RnBAmbassador said:
showbiz 411
Mariah Carey has proven to be the most elusive chanteuse. Her latest album, “Me I Am Mariah, The Elusive Chanteuse” has crashed and burned. Fast. Despite great reviews, “Me I am Mariah” is now number 157 on iTunes and 75 amazon.com. It was released on May 27th, just two and a half weeks ago. Saleswise, the album has sold a paltry 75,000 copies through this past Sunday and probably not too many more after that.
The failure of “Me I Am Mariah” should be a lesson for everyone in her age group and generation still recording and releasing music. Jennifer Lopez should be watching all of this very carefully. Carey took off five years after her last album, and even that CD was not a smash hit. Carey’s last real hit album was “The Emancipation of Mimi” in 2005.
But “Memoirs of An Imperfect Angel” (2009) had no hit singles and was already signalling that Carey had aged out of the hit pop radio market. “Memoirs” sold only 550,000 copies, a far cry from its predecessors.
Now Carey faces a total write off of “Me I Am” unless DefJam can figure out a way to resuscitate it. But even electric shock paddles may not be enough. Mariah needs to drop the Diva act (including campy stuff like being photographed on the subway in a tight fitting ball gown). Her best bet is a knock out, heart string pulling video for the George Michael gospel song “One More Try,” or something witty and self-parodying for the upbeat “Thirsty.”
Yeah her "poor people" subway ride was a TERRIBLE move by her camp. I remember seeing her with those gloves on and thinking about how out of touch she is. I mean, it's not completely her fault, she's been famous since she was 20. But, I think it's very pretentious (especially during difficult economic times) to come that close to making a mockery out of people who depend on public transit. You could tell when she was walking down the stairs to the turnstiles that she wanted to gag. Sorry Mariah, but us poor folks don't need fancy gloves to ride the MTA subway in New York! Trolls be gone! |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
Reply #305 posted 06/15/14 8:26pm
728huey |
SeventeenDayze said:
RnBAmbassador said:
showbiz 411
Mariah Carey has proven to be the most elusive chanteuse. Her latest album, “Me I Am Mariah, The Elusive Chanteuse” has crashed and burned. Fast. Despite great reviews, “Me I am Mariah” is now number 157 on iTunes and 75 amazon.com. It was released on May 27th, just two and a half weeks ago. Saleswise, the album has sold a paltry 75,000 copies through this past Sunday and probably not too many more after that.
The failure of “Me I Am Mariah” should be a lesson for everyone in her age group and generation still recording and releasing music. Jennifer Lopez should be watching all of this very carefully. Carey took off five years after her last album, and even that CD was not a smash hit. Carey’s last real hit album was “The Emancipation of Mimi” in 2005.
But “Memoirs of An Imperfect Angel” (2009) had no hit singles and was already signalling that Carey had aged out of the hit pop radio market. “Memoirs” sold only 550,000 copies, a far cry from its predecessors.
Now Carey faces a total write off of “Me I Am” unless DefJam can figure out a way to resuscitate it. But even electric shock paddles may not be enough. Mariah needs to drop the Diva act (including campy stuff like being photographed on the subway in a tight fitting ball gown). Her best bet is a knock out, heart string pulling video for the George Michael gospel song “One More Try,” or something witty and self-parodying for the upbeat “Thirsty.”
Yeah her "poor people" subway ride was a TERRIBLE move by her camp. I remember seeing her with those gloves on and thinking about how out of touch she is. I mean, it's not completely her fault, she's been famous since she was 20. But, I think it's very pretentious (especially during difficult economic times) to come that close to making a mockery out of people who depend on public transit. You could tell when she was walking down the stairs to the turnstiles that she wanted to gag. Sorry Mariah, but us poor folks don't need fancy gloves to ride the MTA subway in New York!
I understand that whoever wrote this article was trying to make a point, but do some research. I'll admit that Memoirs of an Imperfect Angel was a flop compared to her previous albums, but it did spawn the hit single "Obsessed" which made it to the top ten.
Having said that, the marketing for this album has been absoultely abysmal, and while much of that failure should go to her record label, Mariah herself bears a chunk of the accountability for her album failing. She waited too long to get it released and pushed the release date back several times after launching a few dud buzz singles. And when she did finally release the album, a lot of people didn't even know it was out. Plus those stunts with the subway ride and the "sports and/or energy" drink didn't help matter either, as it made her look like she was trying to get on TMZ instead of pushing her album. This made her look more like Za Za Gabor or Charo than the mulipatinum artist who sold a hundred million albums.
|
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
Reply #306 posted 06/15/14 9:12pm
SeventeenDayze |
728huey said:
SeventeenDayze said:
Yeah her "poor people" subway ride was a TERRIBLE move by her camp. I remember seeing her with those gloves on and thinking about how out of touch she is. I mean, it's not completely her fault, she's been famous since she was 20. But, I think it's very pretentious (especially during difficult economic times) to come that close to making a mockery out of people who depend on public transit. You could tell when she was walking down the stairs to the turnstiles that she wanted to gag. Sorry Mariah, but us poor folks don't need fancy gloves to ride the MTA subway in New York!
I understand that whoever wrote this article was trying to make a point, but do some research. I'll admit that Memoirs of an Imperfect Angel was a flop compared to her previous albums, but it did spawn the hit single "Obsessed" which made it to the top ten.
Having said that, the marketing for this album has been absoultely abysmal, and while much of that failure should go to her record label, Mariah herself bears a chunk of the accountability for her album failing. She waited too long to get it released and pushed the release date back several times after launching a few dud buzz singles. And when she did finally release the album, a lot of people didn't even know it was out. Plus those stunts with the subway ride and the "sports and/or energy" drink didn't help matter either, as it made her look like she was trying to get on TMZ instead of pushing her album. This made her look more like Za Za Gabor or Charo than the mulipatinum artist who sold a hundred million albums.
Can someone fill me in on the most common reasons that an album gets pushed back? Is it legal stuff? egos? fear of failure? I agree that the approach that she took with the buzz singles was probably a mistake that started off as a snowball that is now an avalanche. I hope they can find ways to get out of this disaster and promote it properly. Trolls be gone! |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
Reply #307 posted 06/15/14 9:18pm
SoulAlive |
I think the album kept getting pushed back because the buzz singles weren't making much of an impact.They wanted to launch this album with a major hit single,but unfortunately they weren't able to.One of those singles,"You're Mine (Eternal)",appeared on the charts for only one week(!) before it faded away.As some fans have said,they probably should have released the album around the time when "Beautiful" was riding high.So far,it seems to be only real hit from the album. [Edited 6/15/14 21:21pm] |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
Reply #308 posted 06/15/14 9:29pm
SeventeenDayze |
SoulAlive said:
I think the album kept getting pushed back because the buzz singles weren't making much of an impact.They wanted to launch this album with a major hit single,but unfortunately they weren't able to.One of those singles,"You're Mine (Eternal)",appeared on the charts for only one week(!) before it faded away.As some fans have said,they probably should have released the album around the time when "Beautiful" was riding high.So far,it seems to be only real hit from the album.
[Edited 6/15/14 21:21pm]
I've been wondering all along if they just used all filler songs and knew they were going to have trouble "selling" the songs as hit singles. Someone here mentioned a few posts ago about payola. That's probably the missing part of this as well. Gotta pay to play apparently. Trolls be gone! |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
Reply #309 posted 06/15/14 9:40pm
SeventeenDayze |
Should Mariah do this?
http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/music-arts/jennifer-lopez-twerks-booty-music-video-teaser-article-1.1830651 Trolls be gone! |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
Reply #310 posted 06/16/14 11:32am
Cinny |
I am a Mariah fan, but even I'm not too far gone to see and admit that "#Beautiful" was likely added to radio due to guest Miguel's current relevance.
I even like Fabolous, the track with him, but I can't see radio going OH WE HAVE TO PLAY THAT!
And then when I keep emphasizing radio, someone reminds me that Beyonce's album didn't have a single.
|
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
Reply #311 posted 06/16/14 1:18pm
Identity |
If I'm not mistaken, Beyonce's self-titled surprise album generated 5 singles. |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
Reply #312 posted 06/16/14 8:02pm
SoulAlive |
SeventeenDayze said:
SoulAlive said:
I think the album kept getting pushed back because the buzz singles weren't making much of an impact.They wanted to launch this album with a major hit single,but unfortunately they weren't able to.One of those singles,"You're Mine (Eternal)",appeared on the charts for only one week(!) before it faded away.As some fans have said,they probably should have released the album around the time when "Beautiful" was riding high.So far,it seems to be only real hit from the album.
I've been wondering all along if they just used all filler songs and knew they were going to have trouble "selling" the songs as hit singles. Someone here mentioned a few posts ago about payola. That's probably the missing part of this as well. Gotta pay to play apparently.
There was a time when artists would simply record an album,a first single was chosen and released,it would get airplay and attention,then the album would follow a few weeks later.Remember those days? It's sad the way things work nowadays.Singles have to be "tested" and if it flops,another single or two must be released until they find the "hit" to launch the album.In Mariah's case,they never really found that "hit" and had no choice but to release the album anyway.Things used to be so much more simpler! |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
Reply #313 posted 06/16/14 11:09pm
SeventeenDayze |
SoulAlive said:
SeventeenDayze said:
I've been wondering all along if they just used all filler songs and knew they were going to have trouble "selling" the songs as hit singles. Someone here mentioned a few posts ago about payola. That's probably the missing part of this as well. Gotta pay to play apparently.
There was a time when artists would simply record an album,a first single was chosen and released,it would get airplay and attention,then the album would follow a few weeks later.Remember those days? It's sad the way things work nowadays.Singles have to be "tested" and if it flops,another single or two must be released until they find the "hit" to launch the album.In Mariah's case,they never really found that "hit" and had no choice but to release the album anyway.Things used to be so much more simpler!
Tell me about it. I think part of the problem is that the way that the industry works now is in response to how the internet (and Prince) revolutionized the way that music gets distributed. Prince's way, at that time, meant he kept 100 percent of the profits. People were still buying CDs during that time and just kind of picked and choosed which songs that THEY as individuals liked. I'm not saying that radio didn't influence people's preferences but it seems that the way things used to work, you already heard the entire album by the time the 4th single was released but the hype/buzz/frenzy about the album and the single were still going strong. The best example of this, in my opinion, was Michael Jackson's bad. That album was at the top for over two to three years! Trolls be gone! |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
Reply #314 posted 06/17/14 6:46am
kitbradley |
119 said:
I guess I am alone in thinking that her time has simply come and gone. She had a very long, successful run and now it is just over.
Isn't that natural? Isn't that ok?
Yep! It happens to just about everyone in the business. She had a looooong run and was more successful than 99% of her peers. Most artists have a good 10 year run and then "POOF!", the big hits and record sales stop. R&B female vocalists have to settle for mid-level careers, if they are lucky enough to even have a label interested, once they hit 40. So I'm still not sure why people are focusing in on the she only sold 68,000 during the first week, which is incredible for a veteran R&B singer. Guess people just want something to talk about since there's not much else interesting going on in the business. Well, I take that back. There have been some pretty good albums released over the past few weeks from veteran artists that people here either have not mentioned on glazed over and they only sold a small fraction of what Mimi sold. Kelly Price has a very fine album out right now. Don't recall anyone around here saying much, if anything at all, about it.
I guarentee, the low record sales and criticism will even happen to Beyonce. There's only so many times she can spring suprise releases and have the public scrambling to see what it's all about. Someone younger and prettier with a bigger publicity team will come along that will dance better and most people are going to forget all about her.
"It's not nice to fuck with K.B.! All you haters will see!" - Kitbradley
"The only true wisdom is knowing you know nothing." - Socrates |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
Reply #315 posted 06/17/14 7:26am
Cinny |
Identity said:
If I'm not mistaken, Beyonce's self-titled surprise album generated 5 singles.
I meant.. A lead single dominating the radio |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
Reply #316 posted 06/17/14 7:45am
Cinny |
SoulAlive said:
SeventeenDayze said:
I've been wondering all along if they just used all filler songs and knew they were going to have trouble "selling" the songs as hit singles. Someone here mentioned a few posts ago about payola. That's probably the missing part of this as well. Gotta pay to play apparently.
There was a time when artists would simply record an album,a first single was chosen and released,it would get airplay and attention,then the album would follow a few weeks later.Remember those days? It's sad the way things work nowadays.Singles have to be "tested" and if it flops,another single or two must be released until they find the "hit" to launch the album.In Mariah's case,they never really found that "hit" and had no choice but to release the album anyway.Things used to be so much more simpler!
Yes, that seems to be the case. You need that hit to bring in the fickle general public, but it's a good album for people who know they enjoy Mariah's voice and writing. |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
Reply #317 posted 06/17/14 9:01am
SeventeenDayze |
kitbradley said:
119 said:
I guess I am alone in thinking that her time has simply come and gone. She had a very long, successful run and now it is just over.
Isn't that natural? Isn't that ok?
Yep! It happens to just about everyone in the business. She had a looooong run and was more successful than 99% of her peers. Most artists have a good 10 year run and then "POOF!", the big hits and record sales stop. R&B female vocalists have to settle for mid-level careers, if they are lucky enough to even have a label interested, once they hit 40. So I'm still not sure why people are focusing in on the she only sold 68,000 during the first week, which is incredible for a veteran R&B singer. Guess people just want something to talk about since there's not much else interesting going on in the business. Well, I take that back. There have been some pretty good albums released over the past few weeks from veteran artists that people here either have not mentioned on glazed over and they only sold a small fraction of what Mimi sold. Kelly Price has a very fine album out right now. Don't recall anyone around here saying much, if anything at all, about it.
I guarentee, the low record sales and criticism will even happen to Beyonce. There's only so many times she can spring suprise releases and have the public scrambling to see what it's all about. Someone younger and prettier with a bigger publicity team will come along that will dance better and most people are going to forget all about her.
Sometimes I wonder if that "surprise" album sold as many copies as they claim. I'm really starting to wonder if some of these superstars have people buy up the album just to generate more publicity. Do they fudge the numbers just to make it seem like it's better than what it really is? I often wonder the same thing about movies when the news reports come out that XYZ movie has made X million over the weekend. It's kinda like they are using phony numbers to intice people to think that "everyone else" is buying it. Trolls be gone! |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
Reply #318 posted 06/17/14 11:01am
kitbradley |
SeventeenDayze said:
kitbradley said:
Yep! It happens to just about everyone in the business. She had a looooong run and was more successful than 99% of her peers. Most artists have a good 10 year run and then "POOF!", the big hits and record sales stop. R&B female vocalists have to settle for mid-level careers, if they are lucky enough to even have a label interested, once they hit 40. So I'm still not sure why people are focusing in on the she only sold 68,000 during the first week, which is incredible for a veteran R&B singer. Guess people just want something to talk about since there's not much else interesting going on in the business. Well, I take that back. There have been some pretty good albums released over the past few weeks from veteran artists that people here either have not mentioned on glazed over and they only sold a small fraction of what Mimi sold. Kelly Price has a very fine album out right now. Don't recall anyone around here saying much, if anything at all, about it.
I guarentee, the low record sales and criticism will even happen to Beyonce. There's only so many times she can spring suprise releases and have the public scrambling to see what it's all about. Someone younger and prettier with a bigger publicity team will come along that will dance better and most people are going to forget all about her.
Sometimes I wonder if that "surprise" album sold as many copies as they claim. I'm really starting to wonder if some of these superstars have people buy up the album just to generate more publicity. Do they fudge the numbers just to make it seem like it's better than what it really is? I often wonder the same thing about movies when the news reports come out that XYZ movie has made X million over the weekend. It's kinda like they are using phony numbers to intice people to think that "everyone else" is buying it.
You absolutely better believe that Beyonce's numbers are even more inflated than her over-inflated ego. "It's not nice to fuck with K.B.! All you haters will see!" - Kitbradley
"The only true wisdom is knowing you know nothing." - Socrates |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
Reply #319 posted 06/17/14 11:07am
SeventeenDayze |
kitbradley said:
SeventeenDayze said:
Sometimes I wonder if that "surprise" album sold as many copies as they claim. I'm really starting to wonder if some of these superstars have people buy up the album just to generate more publicity. Do they fudge the numbers just to make it seem like it's better than what it really is? I often wonder the same thing about movies when the news reports come out that XYZ movie has made X million over the weekend. It's kinda like they are using phony numbers to intice people to think that "everyone else" is buying it.
You absolutely better believe that Beyonce's numbers are even more inflated than her over-inflated ego.
I think she's overrated as well. I remember the first time that I heard some idiot say that "Beyawnce" is the next Michael Jackson. I wanted to puke! Then, I wondered how much they paid that person to say that. Everything about her is fake, so I wouldn't be surprised if she lied about sales, the numbers, etc. It makes no sense that overall that people aren't buying albums as much as in the past to have someone just magically appear and be "number one" all over the world? Sounds like her PR team are big liars in the same way she is! LOL!
Oh, today on the show "The Talk" they are talking about a Mariah Carey photo scandal. Apparently, MC has been using old pictures of herself trying to pass them off as new ones Trolls be gone! |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
Reply #320 posted 06/17/14 3:11pm
SeventeenDayze |
Here's an article posted online today about the controversy:
http://bossip.com/981977/i-am-mariah-the-catfishing-chanteuse-mariah-carey-posts-old-1997-photo-and-tries-to-pretend-that-its-new/ Trolls be gone! |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
Reply #321 posted 06/17/14 7:46pm
SoulAlive |
It's too bad that Mariah is not a big touring artist,like Madonna is.
Madonna would take an underperforming album (like 'American Life' (2003) or 'MDNA' (2012) and turn it into the year's biggest,most lucrative tour.
Mariah,most likely,isn't going to tour with this album.It'll be the big flop that hangs over her like a dark cloud,until she comes out with her next album (or something that will make people change the subject). |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
Reply #322 posted 06/17/14 11:31pm
SeventeenDayze |
SoulAlive said:
It's too bad that Mariah is not a big touring artist,like Madonna is.
Madonna would take an underperforming album (like 'American Life' (2003) or 'MDNA' (2012) and turn it into the year's biggest,most lucrative tour.
Mariah,most likely,isn't going to tour with this album.It'll be the big flop that hangs over her like a dark cloud,until she comes out with her next album (or something that will make people change the subject).
Well, maybe it's because Madonna is an acrobat, of sorts. I haven't seen Mariah exert that kind of energy in live performances. I could be wrong but I think one of her biggest weaknesses early on was that she basically just stood in one place while singing. I think that doesn't help her either. If she were a jazz singer or something like that maybe it wouldn't be a big deal but in the world that Mariah is in, that's not going to cut it very long. Trolls be gone! |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
Reply #323 posted 06/18/14 1:01am
SoulAlive |
SeventeenDayze said:
SoulAlive said:
It's too bad that Mariah is not a big touring artist,like Madonna is.
Madonna would take an underperforming album (like 'American Life' (2003) or 'MDNA' (2012) and turn it into the year's biggest,most lucrative tour.
Mariah,most likely,isn't going to tour with this album.It'll be the big flop that hangs over her like a dark cloud,until she comes out with her next album (or something that will make people change the subject).
Well, maybe it's because Madonna is an acrobat, of sorts. I haven't seen Mariah exert that kind of energy in live performances. I could be wrong but I think one of her biggest weaknesses early on was that she basically just stood in one place while singing. I think that doesn't help her either. If she were a jazz singer or something like that maybe it wouldn't be a big deal but in the world that Mariah is in, that's not going to cut it very long.
Yeah,Mariah has never been known as a thrilling live performer.I think on her last big tour,she even had problems selling out some of the arenas.But she's gotta get used to being a "veteran artist".Touring is their bread and butter.She can't rely on huge record sales anymore. |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
Reply #324 posted 06/18/14 12:25pm
kitbradley |
Mariah's not touring because she doesn't have to. When you write your own songs and own your masters, you don't have to tour to make money. I don't know much about Madonna so I can't speak on whether she writes all her songs and owns her catalog. I do know Madonna is an ego-maniac and those type of artists are going to tour whether they need to or not.
A lot of veteran R&B artists are touring because it's the only way they can make money. Mariah's lucky she isn't forced into touring to make money, especially with 2 young children. I'm sure she doesn't want some strangers raising them. If I were in the business and had the kind of bread Mariah has, no way in hell I would be touring unless I were bored to death and just wanted something to do. Touring is very grueling. It's not as much fun as it looks to us outsiders.
"It's not nice to fuck with K.B.! All you haters will see!" - Kitbradley
"The only true wisdom is knowing you know nothing." - Socrates |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
Reply #325 posted 06/18/14 12:59pm
SeventeenDayze |
kitbradley said:
Mariah's not touring because she doesn't have to. When you write your own songs and own your masters, you don't have to tour to make money. I don't know much about Madonna so I can't speak on whether she writes all her songs and owns her catalog. I do know Madonna is an ego-maniac and those type of artists are going to tour whether they need to or not.
A lot of veteran R&B artists are touring because it's the only way they can make money. Mariah's lucky she isn't forced into touring to make money, especially with 2 young children. I'm sure she doesn't want some strangers raising them. If I were in the business and had the kind of bread Mariah has, no way in hell I would be touring unless I were bored to death and just wanted something to do. Touring is very grueling. It's not as much fun as it looks to us outsiders.
That's a good point. She's probably swimming in cash, so perhaps the "hunger" to have hits, tour, etc. is not as strong as it maybe was in the beginning. She's at a different stage in her life, so I'm sure she's focused on that more. I think she's had some missteps in promoting the album but it doesn't take away from her talent as a singer. When I think about Mariah's vocal ability and compare that to someone like Rihanna, I am floored that Rihanna might end up with as many number ones. I think that's proof that these days, anyone can be famous without much talent. Trolls be gone! |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
Reply #326 posted 06/18/14 1:24pm
SoulAlive |
kitbradley said:
Mariah's not touring because she doesn't have to. When you write your own songs and own your masters, you don't have to tour to make money. I don't know much about Madonna so I can't speak on whether she writes all her songs and owns her catalog. I do know Madonna is an ego-maniac and those type of artists are going to tour whether they need to or not.
A lot of veteran R&B artists are touring because it's the only way they can make money. Mariah's lucky she isn't forced into touring to make money, especially with 2 young children. I'm sure she doesn't want some strangers raising them. If I were in the business and had the kind of bread Mariah has, no way in hell I would be touring unless I were bored to death and just wanted something to do. Touring is very grueling. It's not as much fun as it looks to us outsiders.
Madonna's not an ego-maniac she's just a smart woman who figured out,a long time ago,that touring is where the REAL money is.The music business has changed drastically since she first started,and she's just adapting to the changing times.I don't think Madonna tours because she has to...she's already practically a billionaire,lol.But,if you're a recording arrtist,isn't touring and performing part of your job description? Don't you wanna allow your fans to see you in a live setting? |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
Reply #327 posted 06/18/14 1:35pm
SoulAlive |
RnBAmbassador said:
showbiz 411
Mariah Carey has proven to be the most elusive chanteuse. Her latest album, “Me I Am Mariah, The Elusive Chanteuse” has crashed and burned. Fast. Despite great reviews, “Me I am Mariah” is now number 157 on iTunes and 75 amazon.com. It was released on May 27th, just two and a half weeks ago. Saleswise, the album has sold a paltry 75,000 copies through this past Sunday and probably not too many more after that.
The failure of “Me I Am Mariah” should be a lesson for everyone in her age group and generation still recording and releasing music. Jennifer Lopez should be watching all of this very carefully. Carey took off five years after her last album, and even that CD was not a smash hit. Carey’s last real hit album was “The Emancipation of Mimi” in 2005.
But “Memoirs of An Imperfect Angel” (2009) had no hit singles and was already signalling that Carey had aged out of the hit pop radio market. “Memoirs” sold only 550,000 copies, a far cry from its predecessors.
Now Carey faces a total write off of “Me I Am” unless DefJam can figure out a way to resuscitate it. But even electric shock paddles may not be enough. Mariah needs to drop the Diva act (including campy stuff like being photographed on the subway in a tight fitting ball gown). Her best bet is a knock out, heart string pulling video for the George Michael gospel song “One More Try,” or something witty and self-parodying for the upbeat “Thirsty.”
I agree with this! I've always said that this is what she needs to do: drop the "diva" act! I think people are tired of it.In all of her videos,the only message seems to be "Look how beautiful I am".Why not try a different approach? |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
Reply #328 posted 06/18/14 1:38pm
SeventeenDayze |
The only thing that Mariah and Madonna have in common is the fact that they are with much younger men, especially Madonna! I think her new bf is 30 years younger. She's got a ways to catch up with Mick Jagger (70) dating a 27-year-old Trolls be gone! |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
Reply #329 posted 06/18/14 1:58pm
kitbradley |
SoulAlive said:
kitbradley said:
Mariah's not touring because she doesn't have to. When you write your own songs and own your masters, you don't have to tour to make money. I don't know much about Madonna so I can't speak on whether she writes all her songs and owns her catalog. I do know Madonna is an ego-maniac and those type of artists are going to tour whether they need to or not.
A lot of veteran R&B artists are touring because it's the only way they can make money. Mariah's lucky she isn't forced into touring to make money, especially with 2 young children. I'm sure she doesn't want some strangers raising them. If I were in the business and had the kind of bread Mariah has, no way in hell I would be touring unless I were bored to death and just wanted something to do. Touring is very grueling. It's not as much fun as it looks to us outsiders.
Madonna's not an ego-maniac she's just a smart woman who figured out,a long time ago,that touring is where the REAL money is.The music business has changed drastically since she first started,and she's just adapting to the changing times.I don't think Madonna tours because she has to...she's already practically a billionaire,lol.But,if you're a recording arrtist,isn't touring and performing part of your job description? Don't you wanna allow your fans to see you in a live setting?
Not necessarily. Streisand never tours to promote her albums. She doesn't have to. She's probably a multi-millionaire and she has a strong fan base so she knows anything she releases will sell reasonably well. I think I read something about her having stage fright?
But, again, when you reach a certain level (career and monetary), there's really no need to promote every album with a grueling tour. Now, when an artist releases a mega-huge album like "Emancipation Of Mimi", then they probably will want to tour to keep the momentum going. But, IMO, generally people like Mimi and Streisand have that freedom to decide whether or not to tour, a freedom I'm sure most veteran artists would kill to have! "It's not nice to fuck with K.B.! All you haters will see!" - Kitbradley
"The only true wisdom is knowing you know nothing." - Socrates |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
copyright © 1998-2024 prince.org. all rights reserved.