Motown, you didn't see old boy on the BET awards 4 years ago?

Glad to hear he's back, healthy, and performing again. I'll have to find this performamce on line...

Wait... people are actually watching the new Arsenio Hall show?

Partial vid of El on Arsenio:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OdniCJxtA_4

Cerebus said:

Wait... people are actually watching the new Arsenio Hall show?

If it's somebody I like on the show, I DVR it and watch it the next day, however, when I say "watch" that means that I fast forward through Arsenio's boring monologues and go straight to either the interview or musical performance.

I did notice that El was going to be on last night and DVR'd it, I'll watch this evening when I get home. Glad to hear that he was sounding and looking good.

scriptgirl said:

Motown, you didn't see old boy on the BET awards 4 years ago?

Nope and that was the last year I had cable...

Seriously though, I didn't generally start getting into music till like 2-3 years ago. I'm getting into it more at a hardcore (if still mostly mainstream) level but I just started to do so around Grammy time last year. A late bloomer I am " src="../i/s/icon_razz.gif" />

For those who missed it:

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I thought he looked high and seemed sad and his singing was not on par. I'm a big fan and it really made me sad for him.

OMFG I LOVEEEEEEE EL!!!'

OMG I'm in my office tearing up because I was just thinking about him over this past weekend and was gonna do a search.

There was a clip here around the time of Whitney's death when her and El see each other and embrace....that clip stuck with me till this very day. I so wanted to see them BOTH rise up over their demons because there is only one Whitney and one EL.....

Look at that fine ass MOTHERFUCKER right there WHEW Naughty YAAAASSSSSSSS!!!!!!

Made my damn day!

NaughtyKitty said:

For those who missed it:

[hot El DeBarge vids]

Thank you for posting these.

I am a big El fan!

I missed this show

Okay so I just watched on my DVR and my goodness, Arsenio's show gets worse and worse. His band is bland and he just annoys me now. What happened to that hilarious guy who co-starred in Coming to America playing Eddie Murphy's best friend? Will someone please call that guy?

Anyway, saw El and he did an okay job. Seem like he didn't really get into his music until the last performance. Other than that, he seemed so sad. I just wanted to sit on his lap with a box of Kleenex while he was on the piano, put his head on my chest and just let him cry it out. Poor guy. You can definitely tell he's been through some really rough times. Just glad to see him still performing.

I wonder what Chico DeBarge has been up to these days. That album "Long Time No See" was my shit!!!!

yeah, Arsenio show is sad

and it seems like Debarge could use some more back-up singers kind of like Chaka Khan uses whenever she performs live - would help drown out the pitch problems and the missed high notes

he looks great though and glad he stopped using crack

He sounded very nice and looked even better!

As far as Arsenio, although I have not watched the show since it's been back on, I'm glad it is because, other than some random award shows, this is really the only outlet classic R&B artists have to let people know they are still around and, in many cases, making new music.

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Cerebus said:

Wait... people are actually watching the new Arsenio Hall show?

Yes. And why exactly are you so surprise? I hope you didn't think most blacks were watching Jimmy Fallon, now did you?

So glad to see El doing O.K. After reading his brother Tommy's book,I will never utter a single negative word about the drug abuse by him and his siblings. Their upbringing was just tragic. Their dad makes Joe Jackson look like Mother Theresa.

TonyVanDam said:

Cerebus said:

Wait... people are actually watching the new Arsenio Hall show?

Yes. And why exactly are you so surprise? I hope you didn't think most blacks were watching Jimmy Fallon, now did you?

Actually, I enjoy watching Jimmy Fallon on The Tonight Show more than Arsenio's show. Just sayin'.

TonyVanDam said:

Cerebus said:

Wait... people are actually watching the new Arsenio Hall show?

Yes. And why exactly are you so surprise? I hope you didn't think most blacks were watching Jimmy Fallon, now did you?

Unlike you, evidently, I don't look at the work in black and white. And I don't watch either of them.

missfee said:

TonyVanDam said:

Yes. And why exactly are you so surprise? I hope you didn't think most blacks were watching Jimmy Fallon, now did you?

Actually, I enjoy watching Jimmy Fallon on The Tonight Show more than Arsenio's show. Just sayin'.

At least unlike some people (READ: Cerebus with his player hating self.), you notice I said "most" instead of "all".

Cerebus said:

TonyVanDam said:

Yes. And why exactly are you so surprise? I hope you didn't think most blacks were watching Jimmy Fallon, now did you?

Unlike you, evidently, I don't look at the work in black and white. And I don't watch either of them.

Who told you that BS that I look at the work in black and white? See there, you don't know what you're talking about nephew (or niece) . And in the previous post, I said "most", NOT "all". So don't get it twisted.

TonyVanDam said:

And in the previous post, I said "most", NOT "all". So don't get it twisted.

Does Arsenio (or Jimmy) air in South America & Africa?

Wow.......I REALLY hope He can beat them Demons & keep puttin' out some good Music!!!!! I liked His "Second Chance" CD!!!! R.I.P. Bobby DeBarge.........

I didn't see the show with El DeBarge, but I want to say that there is nothing wrong with Arsenio's show. He's had some good guests and sometimes he can be funny and sweet.

I can just imagine the comments when it gets cancelled. Some (notice how I said some and not all), will be blaming the white man.

TonyVanDam said:

Cerebus said:

Unlike you, evidently, I don't look at the work in black and white. And I don't watch either of them.

Who told you that BS that I look at the work in black and white? See there, you don't know what you're talking about nephew (or niece) . And in the previous post, I said "most", NOT "all". So don't get it twisted.

You made it, unnecessarily, about black and white. Nobody held the door open and forced you down that hallway. You opened it and strolled right in all on your own. If it's not about black and white, then don't MAKE IT about black and white. End of. If a white person makes that same point the race card, "what does it have to do with being black" argument comes out in a hot second. I've been dealing with it my whole life and I'll call bullshit on it every time.

Cerebus said:

TonyVanDam said:

Who told you that BS that I look at the work in black and white? See there, you don't know what you're talking about nephew (or niece) . And in the previous post, I said "most", NOT "all". So don't get it twisted.

You made it, unnecessarily, about black and white. Nobody held the door open and forced you down that hallway. You opened it and strolled right in all on your own. If it's not about black and white, then don't MAKE IT about black and white. End of. If a white person makes that same point the race card, "what does it have to do with being black" argument comes out in a hot second. I've been dealing with it my whole life and I'll call bullshit on it every time.

And who the hell are you to tell me what is OR is not necessary when it comes to sarcasm?!? Excuse you, but :gtfo: of here with that bullshit! I know what I said AND I know exactly what I meant and it's really YOUR fault & YOUR problem that you did get it successfully like Missfee did.

I swear, the org and the entire World Wide Web has gotten so freaking political correct in the arse that the fun is damn nearly gone out of this damn website.

Just watched this earlier about El, was made a few years ago but still worth checking out:

I remember watching some of the Unsung episode about DeBarge, but I didn't know their upbringing was so tragic. It's sad that El, Chico, Mark & Bobby all went to jail, but it makes more sense now because of their upbringing they got into drug use and had their issues. I'm glad for El that he's doing better as he's one of my favorite singers and although he seemed abit 'off' on Arsenio, maybe he was nervous, he talks about how he gets nervous before going on stage in the documentary I've posted above. Hopefully El, Chico & Mark and the other members of the family with issues get them resolved because like Terry Lewis said in the documentary, the DeBarge's are right up there with The Jacksons, Sylvers as being very talented musically.

TonyVanDam said:

Cerebus said:

You made it, unnecessarily, about black and white. Nobody held the door open and forced you down that hallway. You opened it and strolled right in all on your own. If it's not about black and white, then don't MAKE IT about black and white. End of. If a white person makes that same point the race card, "what does it have to do with being black" argument comes out in a hot second. I've been dealing with it my whole life and I'll call bullshit on it every time.

And who the hell are you to tell me what is OR is not necessary when it comes to sarcasm?!? Excuse you, but :gtfo: of here with that bullshit! I know what I said AND I know exactly what I meant and it's really YOUR fault & YOUR problem that you did get it successfully like Missfee did.

I swear, the org and the entire World Wide Web has gotten so freaking political correct in the arse that the fun is damn nearly gone out of this damn website.

I still think Jamie Foxx kills sitting down at the piano.

TonyVanDam said:

Cerebus said:

You made it, unnecessarily, about black and white. Nobody held the door open and forced you down that hallway. You opened it and strolled right in all on your own. If it's not about black and white, then don't MAKE IT about black and white. End of. If a white person makes that same point the race card, "what does it have to do with being black" argument comes out in a hot second. I've been dealing with it my whole life and I'll call bullshit on it every time.

And who the hell are you to tell me what is OR is not necessary when it comes to sarcasm?!?

You suck at the internet. You immediately admit to doing exactly what you originally denied doing. I didn't even read any farther than the part I quoted. That's all I needed to know.