. Dude! Get a clue! There is NUMEROUS evidence (without even looking very hard at all) of MJ's songwriting and production talents. Start here: http://www.nme.com/blogs/nme-blogs/the-incredible-way-michael-jackson-wrote-music . PS - you must be in the wrong forum if you're having issues, this is the Music: NON Prince forum. Vamoosh. Music, sweet music, I wish I could caress and...kiss, kiss... | |
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. Go on and share your tracklist & artwork, nothing wrong with that! . 1 - Xscape (new ver) 2 - Slave to the rhythm (Tricky ver) 3 - Do you know.. (Proper real guitar version) 4 - We've had enough 5 - She was loving me (new ver - although I refuse to call it 'Chicago') 6- Loving you (new ver) 7 - Love never felt so good (new ver without JT) 8 - On the line (because the album needs a ballad) 9 - Blue gangster (the more complete 'original' version which seems to be missing from the commercial release) This is a much more superior cut than what was released [Edited 5/11/14 7:01am] | |
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I like all of the modernized tracks on "Xscape"...The way they put it together, its pretty cohesive...I haven't heard any of the o.g. versions, but I'll buy the deluxe album for that. Just listened to it again & my preferred tracklisting is this (all "new" versions):
1. Xscape 2. A Place With No Name 3. Love Never Felt So Good (w/o Justin) 4. Loving You 5. Slave To The Rhythm 6. Do You Know Where Your Children Are? 7. Chicago 8. Blue Gangsta And acting as if the "Michael" album never existed, even though most of it is cool with me... 9. Behind The Mask 10. Best Of Joy I love the way this plays...all & all, its probably tied with HISTORY Disc 2 or maybe even surpasses it as the best since "Dangerous" for me IMO. Great songs...MJ is a very underrated songwriter. [Edited 5/12/14 0:30am] Exiles of the Nation
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I read somewhere that will be released on the new Queen/Freddie album which is coming out soon. Maybe Freddie's estate have the rights for these songs which is why they weren't included too. I didn't hear the LA & Babyface produced 'Slave 2 The Rhythm' (Youtube have taken it down) is that the OG version on the deluxe edition?. So far I'm liking the original version of 'Loving You' and 'Love Never Felt So Good'. Would have liked to have heard the song with D'Angelo & Jesse Johnson on, anyone know why that wasn't included?. I'm not sure where the estate will go next with the unreleased demos/outtakes. Maybe 'Hot Street', 'Got the Hots' (although thats on one of the editions of Thriller 25 IIRC), 'Nite Line' & 'Starlight' although they could be included on another anniversary edition of 'Thriller'. | |
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I'm actually really enjoying this set. The remixes aren't bad at all. Would've liked the rock version of Do You Know, and the Rooney version of Chicago but overall not bad She Believed in Fairytales and Princes, He Believed the voices coming from his stereo
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Me too, weird that the leaked version of DYKWYCA is the best one ... And im sure Chicago 2010 wil leak.
for me i like all demo's for what they are.
As for the new mixes i really like 1 Love never felt so good( they finished it up real nice, as if it it was finished in 83 with all instruments) 2 Xscape: i like the enhanced production, the horns, the instrumentation that mutes at times with the deep voice! Rodney did a great job removing the corny guard sounds( kind of special , remember it leaked in 2003 during the trial ordeal and i was always thinking he would put it on his next album he never finished) 3 Loving you: is nice, i like both versions new one is not that bad either, i like both 4 Slave to the Rythem: I like both version but i like louder vocal takes on the new mix 5 Blue gangster: I like it better then the Demo, i like the drums on the chorus and the slow intro
6 I dont like the new DYKWYA, weird sounds i prefer the leaked version with the propper guitar 7 I dont like the new Chicago with the weird duck sounds, but the vocals seem louder ...
and i really dont like a place with no name. Horrible mix
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They are still finishing it up. It will be released when they finish. He's just taking a break, expect the song to be released later on this year (or next year) (or the year after that) (or the year after that). . Just know that D'Angelo has many important things to do besides satisfy his fans, let alone MJ fans. . Questo can confirm that he is finishing it up as his PR man. He heard it. He played on it. He's finishing it up when he gets around to it. What else do you want from him? | |
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An Oral History Of Michae...ape' AlbumPosted May 12, 2014
http://www.vibe.com/photo-gallery/oral-history-michael-jacksons-xscape-album?page=1
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"Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything." --Plato
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The new version of Xscape is FIREEEE!!! Rodney put his foot in the production! Way better than the demo. I also like Blue Gangsta, LNFSG and Loving You. The others are not that good. They should have never invited Timbo on the project. I can't wait for the original demos! Just one more day!!!
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album number 1 in 45 countries nowhttp://kworb.net/itunes/artist/michaeljackson.html
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I did not expect Xscape to go to # 1 in 45 countries...... It also seems it has the most favorable reviews in the media since Dangerous ... | |
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I do say my favourite of the remixes is Loving You, just heard it on the radio. Sounds great. Xscape is BBC radio 2's album of the week. She Believed in Fairytales and Princes, He Believed the voices coming from his stereo
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The BPM is way off on Chicago. The beat is slower than it should be. Must have to do with the vocals from the demo. | |
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Did anyone notice we only got 2 songs from his later years ? Hold my hand 2008, Best of joy 2009
Still no "stop throwin your life away that has been redone with Neff U' etc Non of the songs He did with Bruxer and Prince Durham | |
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I'm sure those were among the 24 songs LA Reid listened to but didn't make the cut as they were not radio friendly. Might also explain why some of them leaked recently. | |
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So "Michael" will be "performing" at the Billboard Awards this Sunday... Exclusive: Michael Jackson’s “Hologram” will be a “Slave to the Rhythm”
I told you exclusively last week that Michael Jackson would appear in the form of a hologram on the Billboard Music Awards this Sunday. Here’s an update: the Jacksonian projection will “sing” or perform to “Slave to the Rhythm,” a track from the “new” “Xscape” album released officially yesterday. “Slave” is a fragment of music Jackson left behind, recorded in the 1980s. Last year, Justin Bieber put out a version with his vocal on it after Jackson’s kids gave him an MP3 file of it. That version was not used on “Xscape.” The hologram is either 3D or 2D, a la the 2012 “Tupac Shakur” which shook up the Coachella Music Festival that year. That image was created by John Textor, the same man who is said to be putting together the new one. Textor is rather a controversial figure these days. His company, Digital Domain, went bankrupt soon after going public in 2012. Investors were left high and dry. He has a new firm now, and is aiming at making holograms out of any dead celebrity whose heirs or executors want to resurrect them. Elvis Presley may be next. By the way, the people themselves, not just their careers, have to be dead. Mel Gibson wouldn’t count. Ghoulish or foolish? I guess we’ll see what the reaction to this is on Sunday.
http://www.showbiz411.com/2014/05/13/exclusive-michael-jacksons-hologram-will-be-a-slave-to-the-rhythm
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Xscape is the best song on the album and needs to be released as a single, ASAP. The Estate needs to promote this song. | |
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Not sure I like this idea and Slave is the wrong song to use. It should be Xscape. | |
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Album: XSCAPE #1 Argentina #1 Armenia #1 Australia #1 Azerbaijan #1 Belarus #1 Bolivia #1 Brazil #1 Brunei Darussalam #1 Bulgaria #1 Chile #1 Czech Republic #1 France #1 Ghana #1 Greece #1 Hong Kong #1 Hungary #1 Indonesia #1 Japan #1 Kazakhstan #1 Macau #1 Malaysia #1 Mauritius #1 Mexico #1 Mongolia #1 Mozambique #1 Namibia #1 New Zealand #1 Nigeria #1 Norway #1 Peru #1 Poland #1 Romania #1 Russia #1 Singapore #1 Slovakia #1 Spain #1 Sri Lanka #1 Taiwan #1 Thailand #1 Ukraine #1 United Arab Emirates #1 Uzbekistan #1 Venezuela #2 United States #2 United Kingdom #2 Azerbaijan #2 Belgium #2 Bermuda #2 Canada #2 Colombia #2 Cyprus #2 Denmark #2 Estonia #2 Germany #2 Guatemala #2 Latvia #2 Luxembourg #2 Netherlands #2 Oman #2 Paraguay #2 Philippines #2 Qatar #2 Vietnam #3 Antigua and Barbuda #3 Armenia #3 Bahrain #3 Costa Rica #3 Ecuador #3 Egypt #3 India #3 Israel #3 Italy #3 Kenya #3 Panama #3 Portugal #3 Slovenia #3 South Africa #3 Sweden #3 Switzerland #4 Austria #4 Lebanon #4 Moldova #4 Nicaragua #4 Poland #4 Saudi Arabia #4 Turkey #5 Egypt #5 Sri Lanka #5 The Bahamas #7 Botswana #7 Ireland #7 Lithuania #7 Romania #8 Malta #9 Netherlands #10 Canada #10 Finland #12 Dominican Republic
In some countries, where the album was released May 9 (Romania, Netherlands, Latvia, Turkey etc.), he was a leader a day or two and has already started to lose ground. According to my calculations the album was #1 in about 60 countries. | |
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When a version of the title track for Michael Jackson’s posthumous album,Xscape (out Tuesday) surfaced online in early April, producer Rodney “Darkchild” Jerkins was still working on it. Holed up in Larrabee Studios in North Hollywood—where Jackson recorded tracks for his 1991 Dangerous album—he was listening for details. The sole producer for Xscape to have worked with Jackson on a previous album, Jerkins knew from personal experience the artist’s relentless pursuit of perfectionism. “That was our process,” says Jerkins. “That’s the way we worked. We just kept at it until it was ready. We just worked on ideas, added this and that to the mix.” Jerkins could still hear Jackson’s soft but insistent voice pushing him, telling him to “dig deep,” and find sounds no one had heard before. Returning to the song over a decade since they last worked on it (and nearly five years since the singer’s death), he was trying to somehow channel “what MJ would be telling me if he was right there working with me.” The track is one of eight mostly-finished songs culled from Jackson’s vault and “contemporized” by an all-star team of producers hand-picked by Epic Records CEO L.A. Reid (in addition to Jerkins, Reid tapped the talents of Timbaland, J-Roc Harmon, Stargate and John McClain). The concept for Xscape obviously will not appeal to purists. But the album has received surprisingly strong reviews from critics, and lead single “Love Never Felt So Good” is charting higher than any Jackson s...since 2002. This, of course, has as much (if not more) to do with the quality of Jackson’s unheard vocal performances as it does the new production. When the title track seemed to leak in April, the response was overwhelmingly positive. Huffington Post called it “vintage MJ.” Spin called it “chrome-bright funk pop.” And BuzzFeed praised it as “the best new Michael Jack...in forever.” Yet as Slate’s Forrest Wickman notes, that version of “Xscape” was not the production Jerkins was working on. It was the version Jackson and Jerkins last recorded together from 1999 to 2001. The new version, on the album, allows us to hear Jackson in new, reinvigorating ways. Jerkins’ work is emblematic of the transformations on Xscape; the song doesn’t replace, so much as it complements Jackson’s original track, accenting different features, textures, and possibilities inherent in the song. Jerkins co-composed the song with fellow R&B hit-makers Fred Jerkins III and LaShawn Daniels (the trio previously co-wrote such late-’90s classics as Brandy’s “The Boy Is Mine” and Monica’s “Say My Name”). “Xscape” was first presented to Jackson in skeletal form (with partial lyrics) in 1999 over the phone during the early stages of the Invincible project. When Jackson heard the song, “he went crazy,” Jerkins recalls. “He was like, ‘That’s what I’m talking about! That’s what I’m talking about!’ It made him want to dance.” Anyone who worked with Jackson knew that was the ultimate barometer for a rhythm track. Jackson was so excited about the song he insisted that recording begin right away. Since Jerkins was in New Jersey and Jackson was in Los Angeles, they utilized the latest technology from EDNet—a company that originated within George Lucas’ post-production facility, Skywalker Sound, and became popular in the music industry after its equipment was used on the 1993 Frank Sinatra album, Duets—to allow Jerkins to hear and record Jackson through a phone line with near-perfect fidelity while in different studios. Jackson laid down all his background vocals that day in Record One, as Jerkins recorded them from New Jersey. The producer flew out to L.A. soon after and recorded Jackson’s lead. Sonically, the track juxtaposed clipped, percussive, climbing verses with an airy, harmony-driven chorus. Jackson loved to tell stories in his music, so he and Jerkins came up with an introduction to the song (“he called them ‘vignettes,’ I called them ‘interludes,’” says Jerkins) of a prison break. Early versions of the song begin with the sound of a jail cell door being unlocked; the prison guards have come to check on an inmate, but his cell is empty. For Jackson, the introduction, like the song itself, was a metaphor for his own unusual life, trapped behind gates, mocked, stalked, cornered, and labeled by a public that demanded he be anything but human. The pair continued to tinker with the track even after it wasn’t included on Invincible. It first leaked online in 2002 and quickly became an underground fan favorite (in spite of the leak’s relatively poor sound quality). Yet Jerkins always felt bad the track never got its moment to shine. When Epic CEO L.A. Reid approached Jerkins about “Xscape” in 2013, the producer felt ready to address the song again. If Jackson were alive, he reasoned, he would want it to sound current. He wouldn’t play it safe or nostalgic; he would want the song to feel fresh and be heard. Jackson himself frequently returned to unreleased songs years or even decades after they were first recorded and tried out new production, arrangements, and lyrics; “Earth Song” was first conceived in Vienna during the Bad Tour in 1988, but wasn’t released until 1995’sHIStory. Jerkins’ goal for the new version of “Xscape,” then, was to bring the production up to the present the way he felt Michael would. His new mix adds a bone-vibrating bass, punchy, disco-flavored horns, and cinematic strings to heighten the track’s drama and intensity. He wanted the song to capture elements of the past and present, but not to feel busy or showy; he wanted it to be leaner. “I wanted it to hit right away,” says Jerkins. “Just to get the energy of the song.” In place of the original intro, Jerkins allows Jackson to showcase his singular, syncopated beatboxing and trademark percussive vocal exclamations. There’s also Jackson’s voice from a long-ago recording, intoning “Darkchild,” Jerkins’ nickname. The glitchy, electronic feel of the 2001 version is supplanted by a balance of tight hip-hop beats and live instrumentation.
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http://www.today.com/video/today/55165396#55165396 Timbaland on today.com
http://www.today.com/video/today/55164747
LA Reid on today
Saying that for him this has been the bottom of the pit. He put alot of effort in it and doesnt want to put out more.. | |
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Who the hell is no.1 in the states!? | |
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Listening to it now. I'm sorry, but most of these songs sound horrible.
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that's bullshit, we know there is tonnes of great stuff She Believed in Fairytales and Princes, He Believed the voices coming from his stereo
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What the fuck have they done to "Do You Know Where Your Children Are"? | |
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LA Reid just told me on Twitter that the reason "Hot Fun In The Summertime" did not make the cut was because it was not completed in time. |
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- LOL!!! You know everybody's gonna blame D"angelo. | |
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I mean, it does sound like his fault. He's the producer on the track. He has a history of not finishing shit. |
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- Maybe one day we'll hear the finished project. Hell, it may even "leak" one day. However, LA seems to be the type to sue the hell out someone though for that trick. If there's a big enough demand for the song, I can see him releasing it on a future project. Because we all know there will be future projects....That cow ain't near done being milked yet for the estate or Sony. | |
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