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Thread started 04/05/14 12:55pm

scriptgirl

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Kurt Cobain died 20 years ago today.

Loved him, loved Nirvana.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hV45Z2l-8Rw

"Lack of home training crosses all boundaries."
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Reply #1 posted 04/05/14 1:07pm

TonyVanDam

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And THIS conspiracy researcher is convince that even till this very day, Kurt Cobain's death was NOT a result of suicide.

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Reply #2 posted 04/05/14 2:41pm

McJagger

Yeah, Courtney Love might have had some motive for taking out a hit on him. But remember, he took an overdose in Europe and was in a coma for about 6 days, so he was somewhat suicidal. He wanted to call an album I Hate Myself and I Want to Die.

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Reply #3 posted 04/05/14 2:45pm

Scorp

headbang headbang headbang

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Reply #4 posted 04/05/14 3:40pm

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RIP to a legend.

"Do you really know what love is?"
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Reply #5 posted 04/05/14 3:43pm

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Courtney is a dreg of humanity, plain and simple. She would have sold his brains off the kitchen floor if she could have gotten hold of them. Though i was not a Nirvana fan so to speak, i did respect what he brought to the table, but in learning about him more the LAST person i listen too is Courtney fucking love who should drop off the earth. I listen to Dave Grohl who during his Keynote Speech spoke about his own life and then when it crossed with Kurt's. Believe it or not, KURT did believe that nirvana should be the biggest band on earth, but as Dave Grohl said the "spirit" of all the bands they all loved was getting lost, KURT had "guilt" for fame, and that was how he reacted to it. Was it gonna happen anyway if Courtney wasnt around, im so sure of that, probably yes, but she was an enabler to him, much like Michael Hutchence's wife Paula Yates was and then a year later she was dead too.

If you have never heard Dave's speech go grab it on Youtube, it was the best keynote speech i had heard at that event yet. I think we all knew they were going in first ballot to the Hall of Fame, just like Pearl Jam will next. But i think part of Dave's speech was about "guilt" and how you never had "Guilt" when you first start out, write a song, but once you get success "guilt" is the cancer to some. Ironically in a few years you will see Dave Get inducted again as the leader of a band this time, but had that "death" not happend probably never would have been a foo fighters, or alot of other things that happend.


"We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F
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Reply #6 posted 04/05/14 4:22pm

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RIP Kurt and still a legend to this day… I will pull out one of your records now to listen. I have defended your band over the past 20+ years when people said Nirvana ruined the music business and to be quite honest… it was your band that saved the 90s music because others were releasing shit at the time. Again RIP Kurt Cobain and you are missed and will never be forgotten.

[Edited 4/5/14 16:23pm]

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Reply #7 posted 04/05/14 4:29pm

lastdecember

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Kobe said:

RIP Kurt and still a legend to this day… I will pull out one of your records now to listen. I have defended your band over the past 20+ years when people said Nirvana ruined the music business and to be quite honest… it was your band that saved the 90s music because others were releasing shit at the time. Again RIP Kurt Cobain and you are missed and will never be forgotten.

[Edited 4/5/14 16:23pm]

Its funny during Dave's Keynote speech he talks about 1990 going to labels with the notion that they were going to be the biggest band in the world. The Top songs of 1990 were by En Vogue, Bell Biv Devoe, Phil Collins, Jon Bon Jovi(solo), Sinead O Connor, Madonna, Roxette, and Wilson Fucking Phillips was the number one song of the year as David said, "how did Kurt even think we could come into the middle of this mainstream pop world and make a ripple"


"We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F
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Reply #8 posted 04/06/14 9:55am

McJagger

I remember I was in a downtown department store when the news of Kurt's death came on a TV tuned to MUCHmusic. I left and went straight to a used record store and I wanted to shout out "KURT COBAIN IS DEAD!!!" but I took one look at everyone's sad faces and I knew they already knew. We all just looked at records and said nothing.

[Edited 4/6/14 9:56am]

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Reply #9 posted 04/07/14 10:07am

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I ran into Nirvana out in the streets (but didn't realize until after that it was Nirvana.) Kurt kept staring at me and I was like staring back thinking do I know you? Only because he was staring so hard I thought that this guy (Kurt) knew me (Of course I didn't realize it was Kurt until we parted.). I just kept walking and didn't go back to bug him or the rest of the group.

The dude was short!

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Reply #10 posted 04/08/14 9:24pm

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Wrote this a couple days ago

I remember it clearly...


My mom came to pick me up and take me out to lunch. We were driving down Santa Monica Blvd and she had the all-news station playing. Suddenly, a clip of the chorus of Heart Shaped Box came on the air, along with the brief blurb that they'd been running every ten minutes or so about the "apparent suicide" of the guy who'd been an instant icon to me.


This was before the days of these inane status updates keeping us all up to the second. So when I reacted, my mom said "yup" in that way that someone who already knows will do.


I'd been with her when she found out Elvis died, and at five years old I didn't quite get her pain. Likewise, she didn't really know that I'd been listening to Nirvana nonstop for the past two years, right alongside Miles Davis and Parliament and The Beatles. And yes, I had the haircut. But she didn't quite get it, and my girlfriend didn't get it. But later that night my brother called and finally it was someone who got it. Of course, a lot of people got it.


I idolized him as a songwriter, performer, style-maker, and person of integrity. I also embraced his tendency to revel in misery and his self-destructive ways (though obviously not to the same extent). I even flirted with suicidal thoughts and glamorized it all.


But it changed in an instant.


In the aftermath, Courtney Love would spend a brief time appearing strong and sane through tragedy (this would not last). The world would be given a consolation prize of the Foo Fighters. Kurt himself would remain forever 27. We'd be left to wonder (like so many cliched fans in the past have done) what might have been.


His death did one positive thing for me. I saw where the path I was on could lead. I decided to not cultivate unhappiness anymore. I decided that joy was as valid an emotion as pain and that while pain would come of its own accord, it made more sense to try to cultivate happiness.

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Reply #11 posted 04/08/14 9:47pm

scriptgirl

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Kewl, are you a guy or girl? You think he fancied you?

"Lack of home training crosses all boundaries."
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Reply #12 posted 04/08/14 9:58pm

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scriptgirl said:

Kewl, are you a guy or girl? You think he fancied you?

I'm a guy, but I think the staring was more like Kurt was seeing if I recognized him. Trying to move around town with out being noticed. It was a stare similar to the I want you-but it wasn't. I was okay with that, as I'm sure Kurt was too.

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Reply #13 posted 04/09/14 3:28pm

McJagger

NDRU said:

Wrote this a couple days ago

I remember it clearly...


My mom came to pick me up and take me out to lunch. We were driving down Santa Monica Blvd and she had the all-news station playing. Suddenly, a clip of the chorus of Heart Shaped Box came on the air, along with the brief blurb that they'd been running every ten minutes or so about the "apparent suicide" of the guy who'd been an instant icon to me.


This was before the days of these inane status updates keeping us all up to the second. So when I reacted, my mom said "yup" in that way that someone who already knows will do.


I'd been with her when she found out Elvis died, and at five years old I didn't quite get her pain. Likewise, she didn't really know that I'd been listening to Nirvana nonstop for the past two years, right alongside Miles Davis and Parliament and The Beatles. And yes, I had the haircut. But she didn't quite get it, and my girlfriend didn't get it. But later that night my brother called and finally it was someone who got it. Of course, a lot of people got it.


I idolized him as a songwriter, performer, style-maker, and person of integrity. I also embraced his tendency to revel in misery and his self-destructive ways (though obviously not to the same extent). I even flirted with suicidal thoughts and glamorized it all.


But it changed in an instant.


In the aftermath, Courtney Love would spend a brief time appearing strong and sane through tragedy (this would not last). The world would be given a consolation prize of the Foo Fighters. Kurt himself would remain forever 27. We'd be left to wonder (like so many cliched fans in the past have done) what might have been.


His death did one positive thing for me. I saw where the path I was on could lead. I decided to not cultivate unhappiness anymore. I decided that joy was as valid an emotion as pain and that while pain would come of its own accord, it made more sense to try to cultivate happiness.

Happy for you!

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Reply #14 posted 04/09/14 5:10pm

duccichucka

His death is one of the more ironic moves in rock star history. In taking his own life, he became

exactly the thing he dreaded: a business entity with movers and shakers staking their claim. If

he had known this would be the outcome, he would've released shitty records or simply retired

from the music industry.

He was exactly what the music industry needed and MJ had to go.

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Reply #15 posted 04/10/14 4:13am

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I still can't believe the 27 club thingy, its just so weird, him, Jimi Hendrix & Janis Joplin, Amy Winehouse, these guys dominated the world in a short time before their death.. and they were crazy talented.

RIP Kurt Cobain, he was a wonderful songwriter.

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