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Thread started 03/24/14 7:37am

Shawy89

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More popularity: The Beatles or Elvis Presley or Michael Jackson

Elvis was at his peak in the 50s (Especially 1955)
The Beatles were at their peak in the 60s (1964)
Michael was at his peak in 1980s (1983 --- when he was the "IT")

These guys were pretty much everywhere... anywhere, any time.

But who was more popular or who had everybody, literally everybody excited at the time?

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Reply #1 posted 03/24/14 8:14am

Artesian

The org is overrun with Jackson fans, so you know he's gonna be the default answer.

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Reply #2 posted 03/24/14 8:14am

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Michael is popular in countries where they've never even heard of The Beatles or Elvis.

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Reply #3 posted 03/24/14 9:37am

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Militant said:

Michael is popular in countries where they've never even heard of The Beatles or Elvis.

Really? What countries do you know of that haven't heard of the Beatles and/or Elvis?

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Reply #4 posted 03/24/14 10:48am

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Beatles. If all members were alive and toured as the beatles they would out sell MJ.

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Reply #5 posted 03/24/14 11:59am

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The biggest selling album worldwide between 2000 and 2010 was the Beatles' hits collection "1".

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The Deluxe 'Purple Rain' Reissue

http://www.popmatters.com...n-reissue/
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Reply #6 posted 03/24/14 12:29pm

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NoVideo said:

The biggest selling album worldwide between 2000 and 2010 was the Beatles' hits collection "1".

I think the OP is talking about during their heyday, not today. A lot of people don't know it today, but Dean Martin & Jerry Lewis as a duo had the big crowds and screaming girls before any of them. Mary Pickford, Louis Armstrong, and Shirley Temple were really popular during their day too. Pickford was so popular that she started her own studio (United Artists) with a few others like Charlie Chaplin.

You can take a black guy to Nashville from right out of the cotton fields with bib overalls, and they will call him R&B. You can take a white guy in a pin-stripe suit who’s never seen a cotton field, and they will call him country. ~ O. B. McClinton
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Reply #7 posted 03/24/14 12:33pm

JoeBala

I'm Biased but E-L-V-I-S was the 1st global music superstar and still is... cool

http://www.thejonesbrothers.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/e/l/elvis.jpg

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Reply #8 posted 03/24/14 12:42pm

Shawy89

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Well, as a guy who lived during the heyday of Michael Jackson, and after I visited a lot of countries including Egypt, Morocco and such.. I think Michael Jackson is the most popular among these guys.

I'm just saying, I think his Thriller album and videos were just everything at the time, Michael is also popular because his skin color and appearance caused controversy = causes curiosity = causes questions = causes "phenomen", he was this big culture thing, I'll bet you go to a desert and ask someone about him, they'd either say he looks like a woman or start dancing to Billie Jean.

Prince would've been also that popular if Purple Rain expanded worldwide. I think non-American cultures didn't appreciate his look or music at the time.

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Reply #9 posted 03/24/14 12:48pm

MickyDolenz

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JoeBala said:

I'm Biased but E-L-V-I-S was the 1st global music superstar and still is... cool

I think James Brown is more popular in Africa than Elvis.

You can take a black guy to Nashville from right out of the cotton fields with bib overalls, and they will call him R&B. You can take a white guy in a pin-stripe suit who’s never seen a cotton field, and they will call him country. ~ O. B. McClinton
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Reply #10 posted 03/24/14 1:05pm

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Elvis.

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Reply #11 posted 03/24/14 1:05pm

JoeBala

MickyDolenz said:

JoeBala said:

I'm Biased but E-L-V-I-S was the 1st global music superstar and still is... cool

I think James Brown is more popular in Africa than Elvis.

Elvis who never toured out the US that says something about his popularity. JB, MJ and Beatles toured mostly everywhere I think.

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Reply #12 posted 03/24/14 1:16pm

MickyDolenz

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JoeBala said:

MickyDolenz said:

I think James Brown is more popular in Africa than Elvis.

Elvis who never toured out the US that says something about his popularity. JB, MJ and Beatles toured mostly everywhere I think.

An act can't tour a place without an audience, especially overseas which is expensive. It's like when Wham! toured China, when foreign performers weren't generally allowed in the country. There records had sold there already. So they had to have some popularity already, just like Muhammad Ali was popular in Africa, which he found out during the Rumble In The Jungle. Ali had never been there. James hadn't either until Rumble, but his records had influenced some of the Afropop there. Sixto Rodriguez was really popular in South Africa, and he had no idea about it or that his records had even gotten over there as they did little business in his home country.

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You can take a black guy to Nashville from right out of the cotton fields with bib overalls, and they will call him R&B. You can take a white guy in a pin-stripe suit who’s never seen a cotton field, and they will call him country. ~ O. B. McClinton
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Reply #13 posted 03/24/14 1:22pm

JoeBala

^^ I don't doubt it.

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Reply #14 posted 03/24/14 1:30pm

MickyDolenz

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If Elvis had someone other than Colonel Parker as a manager, he probably would have toured in other countries. Elvis had offers to do so, but the Colonel couldn't go.

You can take a black guy to Nashville from right out of the cotton fields with bib overalls, and they will call him R&B. You can take a white guy in a pin-stripe suit who’s never seen a cotton field, and they will call him country. ~ O. B. McClinton
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Reply #15 posted 03/24/14 1:45pm

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Empress said:

Militant said:

Michael is popular in countries where they've never even heard of The Beatles or Elvis.

Really? What countries do you know of that haven't heard of the Beatles and/or Elvis?

The depths of Africa and Asia. Also, from my own experience being signed to Sony/BMG India and having toured extensively there, you see Michael's albums and t-shirts and fans EVERYWHERE. Hear his music on the radio all the time. Can't recall ever seeing any evidence of Elvis or The Beatles being popular there. I remember performing in a club in Delhi that had a huge wall painting of Michael.

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Reply #16 posted 03/24/14 2:44pm

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USA - ELVIS

ALL OTHER WESTERN COUNTRIES - THE BEATLES

THIRD WORLD COUNTRIES - MJ

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Reply #17 posted 03/24/14 2:45pm

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World wide Michael Jackson by a long shot. Look at the album sales, tour numbers records, and international charts for proof.
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Reply #18 posted 03/24/14 3:23pm

NaughtyKitty

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Bruno Mars!!!




















































Just kidding lol

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Reply #19 posted 03/24/14 3:26pm

JoeBala

^^Who? lol

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Reply #20 posted 03/24/14 4:07pm

SoulAlive

hmmm it's hard to say,but it seems like to me,that Michael crossed over in a way that nobody else did.People from all races and nationalites own a copy of Thriller,but how many R&B fans own anything by Elvis? I'm saying that Michael had more mass appeal,on a global level.

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Reply #21 posted 03/24/14 5:37pm

MickyDolenz

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SoulAlive said:

but how many R&B fans own anything by Elvis?

Several of Elvis' early records went Top 10 on the R&B chart (Billboard) in the 1950s and others were Top 40 R&B. Elvis had been written about in Jet magazine and he even did an interview with them.

You can take a black guy to Nashville from right out of the cotton fields with bib overalls, and they will call him R&B. You can take a white guy in a pin-stripe suit who’s never seen a cotton field, and they will call him country. ~ O. B. McClinton
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Reply #22 posted 03/24/14 5:37pm

JoeTyler

equally popular

perhaps Elvis more popular in certain areas of the USA

tinkerbell
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Reply #23 posted 03/24/14 5:40pm

lowkey

michael...the cultural and racial bounderies he crossed were unmatched. little 3 year olds to this day love michael jackson

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Reply #24 posted 03/24/14 6:09pm

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Reply #25 posted 03/24/14 6:10pm

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lowkey said:

michael...the cultural and racial bounderies he crossed were unmatched. little 3 year olds to this day love michael jackson

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Reply #26 posted 03/24/14 6:15pm

scorp84

Michael Jackson.
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Reply #27 posted 03/24/14 6:35pm

avasdad

I would say MJ.... HOWEVER... The Beatles and Elvis did not have MTV, internet and social media to boost their careers in their prime...MJ did...

MJ's career was almost 40 yrs... Beatles was about 6yrs...Elvis 22 yrs...

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Reply #28 posted 03/24/14 6:53pm

JoeTyler

avasdad said:

I would say MJ.... HOWEVER... The Beatles and Elvis did not have MTV, internet and social media to boost their careers in their prime...MJ did...

MJ's career was almost 40 yrs... Beatles was about 6yrs...Elvis 22 yrs...

haha! no

dude fell off the face of the earth (musically) after 2001

tinkerbell
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Reply #29 posted 03/24/14 7:41pm

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There was no internet in the 1980s, so that couldn't have helped Mike. Most people didn't have a computer, and if they did it was the green screen ones where you had to type in a bunch of codes to make it do anything, lol.

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