lastdecember said:

IIAGY said:

I love how people keep saying Adele was a fluke. The anticipation for her next album is there and so is my eggs when she comes through and sells 1M copies first week with ease.

Because it was a fluke, sorry, but talent YES but no one saw it coming at all and anyone that says they saw her selling 10 million in the states is smoking that bob marley joint. Norah Jones was a fluke, and YES anticipation is there of course, after ANY gigantic seller there is anticipation ESPECIALLY when you take a long time off which adele is doing, some artists arent like that, Norah was on everyone's albums and never was a commercial artist to begin with, she knew that, but still she sold 5 million of her second album. Adele will most likely sell a million in a week, that shouldnt be a shock and wont be, but "lightning in a bottle" and the "stars aligning" like that again will not happen, and i hope that people dont go all ape shit if the next album only sells half of the previous, im sure if it does we will get threads like "she waited too long" "she is finished" "lackluster material" etc..

co-sign. And it's like saying Adele had the only good album.

1. I agree to the point about the ability to purchase individual songs from an album

allows people to cherry pick songs that they think are best from particular albums.

2. This issue is massively intensified by, I am 99% sure of this, these factors

A. the comparatively worse purchasing power of the average person now compared

to the 80s AND ON TOP OF THAT, there is less room in personal budgets

for music because in 80s few people were paying for 1. cell phone service 2. internet service.

3. obscene portions of their budge for gasoline (more than doubled since 2000).

B. a significantly larger portion of mass market music is a natural "turn off"

for most potential purchasers because it is either obviously negative in a way

that is either unattractive or already satisfied by what a person recently purchased

and or is obviously a dishonest attempt to position an emotionally sour song

as positive and healthy but it the camoflage is transparent.

C. In the 80's there were very few chances to test drive all the songs on an LP

before you purchase them so people were more likely to gamble that an entire

LP was worthwhile.

R. The "business" culture & other thing in the music industry has grown so octopus style controlling

at certain labels that the average quality and variety for an entire LP is not as strong

and effective at attracting purchasers who are testing everything before they purchase.

JoeTyler said:

Ace said:

that and Youtube / Spotify

now people ARE ABLE to listen to the entire album before buyin' it, if the album sucks, they'll stick with the catchy leading single, that's all

I don't get why people shit on Spotify. If anything, that's the future, and people paying for a subscription is a good thing. The company pays 70% of their profits in royalties. The reason a lot of artists don't make money on it is because they signed shitty deals. People love Netflix, Spotify is basically just the Netflix of music. I don't see why that's such a hard thing to get.

guitarslinger44 said:

Spotify is a good thing for the consumer, back in the day we bought an album and if it sucked you've already bought it, now you can listen to it a dozen times and if it sucks you don't buy it. Sure the artist get a fee from spotify but it's not the same is it

Yeah, what a great royalty fee artists earn on Spotify!

The writer of Cracker's "Low":

My Song Got Played On Pandora 1 Million Times and All I Got Was $16.89, Less Than What I Make From a Single T-Shirt Sale!

http://thetrichordist.com...hirt-sale/

DJK said:

1. I agree to the point about the ability to purchase individual songs from an album

allows people to cherry pick songs that they think are best from particular albums.

2. This issue is massively intensified by, I am 99% sure of this, these factors

A. the comparatively worse purchasing power of the average person now compared

to the 80s AND ON TOP OF THAT, there is less room in personal budgets

for music because in 80s few people were paying for 1. cell phone service 2. internet service.

3. obscene portions of their budge for gasoline (more than doubled since 2000).

B. a significantly larger portion of mass market music is a natural "turn off"

for most potential purchasers because it is either obviously negative in a way

that is either unattractive or already satisfied by what a person recently purchased

and or is obviously a dishonest attempt to position an emotionally sour song

as positive and healthy but it the camoflage is transparent.

C. In the 80's there were very few chances to test drive all the songs on an LP

before you purchase them so people were more likely to gamble that an entire

LP was worthwhile.

R. The "business" culture & other thing in the music industry has grown so octopus style controlling

at certain labels that the average quality and variety for an entire LP is not as strong

and effective at attracting purchasers who are testing everything before they purchase.

Its all of these things and even factoring in that the "internet" makes it possible for anyone to load up their mp3 or ipod or phone with an entire catalog of music and singles without paying a cent, and that doesnt exist in other forms of media, yes somewhat in movies, but bootleg movies are filmed by someone in the audience and look horrible so that somewhat is hurting that genre but not quite like it is in music, artists stream albums now and their is a way to just download the stream and have the whole album, and since MOST people now dont care about the artwork the cover or who plays on a record, why bother.

The 80's were a different animal because there werent other "things" taking away from music, and honestly you had the physical single selling alot and you had albums selling alot too, and those same artists were big concert draws so it was a perfect storm, now you might see a Number One album from Bruce Springsteen, no hit singles no airplay but number one concert draw, its very splintered now what gets played what albums are selling.