novabrkr said:

Katamari, Prince.org's automatic functions for simplifying the HTML syntax can't handle that much formatting at the moment due to bugs. Responding to the post you've made above using the quoting functions is impossible without cleaning up the code manually (which is something I won't proceed to do for a poster that insists on adding unnecessary formatting like using a specific colour for his own comments).

Look at this color REAL hard and find and point out the places where it might even be indicated that I give a fuck. I'll make it easier for you.

Yes, I do have a problem with the way female sexuality is portrayed in the video and it's something that makes me feel uncomfortable on a personal level. Thousands of people have already commented negatively on the video, so I'm hardly alone with those sentiments. Of course you can, and should, use the feeling of something being wrong as the starting point for your criticism.

There are quite a lot of people who are Tea Party-goers. They are ALL still ignorant and foolish.

The biggest "intellectual problem" I have with Beyonce is that she's due to her own will presented herself as a role model for young females, yet her handling of the concept of "female empowerment" is so naive and full of contradictions that she can't be taken seriously. It's not unreasonable to assume that her actions only further confusion among young people on such issues (judged by many of the comments that defend her work that's exactly what's happening). This video has already had 30+ million views on Youtube and will probably exceed 100 million soon enough. What many have already emphasized is that this video is just one amongst many similar ones and the overall tone of many videos that are currently "hot" is very exploitative. These type of videos becoming the standard is the bigger problem here.

Her method of female empowerment is simply being unabashedly herself (powerful, successful, maternal, sexual, emotional, etc. - a woman and a HUMAN BEING) in the public eye and the public being forced to accept it, while also lending her name and voice to causes like Ban Bossy and Chime for Change. People need to see that. I don't see where the naïvete or contradiction would be, unless you're a fool that still thinks that female empowerment is solely that narrow-minded BS about "wearing the pants" (usually made irritatingly literal) and burning bras. That shit dehumanizes women who don't fit into those constricting personality requirements.

And I think you need to look up the definition of "exploitative". A person cannot exploit themselves.

There's obviously a difference between personal sexual preferences and the depiction of sexuality in mass media. Why should someone "really having" a certain tendency justify its utilization for commercial purposes? Where's the logical necessity in that? During the last 50 years or so it's of course become rather common to justify questionable depictions of sexuality by referring to the end product as "art", but I'm not really seeing that in this video. This video really is just a vanity project with aesthetic values that aren't that different from a fragrance commercial. Many artists have depicted their own sexual preferences in their work, but they've also understood the appropriate mediums for it. The appropriate medium isn't really VEVO when you know you're going to get millions and millions of views just because you're already famous.

How is the depiction of sexuality "questionable" in the first place? Because YOUR misogynist (YES I am saying it. It's evident.) ass says so? Please. That is so offensive.

Her ARTISTIC depiction of her PERSONAL SEXUAL PREFERENCES does nothing but push another real woman's REAL views in the spotlight. That is rare, because people like you like to partake in this light slut-shaming and compartmentalization of women, and unfortunately, it works a lot of the time. Hopefully, with people like Beyoncé making themselves more visible, it will stop working so well and y'all can seethe and die off like the old racists.

It's commercial because Beyoncé has to eat like anybody else. And the video is on VEVO because the song has been made a single due to its popularity at urban radio. Prior to that it was only available on the BEYONCÉ album. It's not even that deep. but since "appropriate" is one of those words used to shame women, I'm just going to point out that "Blurred Lines" is also on VEVO. The unrated version. But I forgot it's only bad when it's a woman doing it...

What you've written between the asterisks is not something that I was going to write myself, so I won't address that. It's rude to make up comments yourself and then attribute them as something that the other person would say. It's also very bad argumentation, for that matter.

It's a fucking message board. Please get over it and yourself.

deebee said:

It's all tits, ass and beats now.

paisleypark4 said:

She pretty much summed it up in the videos on the album in youtube.

She explains that her fans are growing up with her and it was time she express herself the way she wants to, how she feels as a mother and a wife. Really you should listen to the whole album instead of nitpicking.

Well, that pretty much clears everything up.

/thread.

whitechocolatebrotha said:

It's all tits, ass and beats now.

I think of worse ways to spend a Friday night!

artist76 said:

When Beyoncé is writing her own songs, and truly expressing an authentic p.o.v., then let's talk about whether she's a feminist role model (or even, a true artist).

She is. She said out of her own mouth that she freestyled "Partition". PLEASE prove her wrong. I want to see it.

And it's so hilariously, ironically misogynist that it's always women whose voices have to be discredited with faulty accusations that they don't write their own music (Beyoncé and damn near any female rapper). Do it all or you have done nothing.

This song is written by Timberlake primarily, and several other dudes (with negligible input by B).

Who said THAT? Again with the male supremacy. Yes, a white male is in the list of credited writers, so he must be the mastermind. And I say white because Terius "The-Dream" Nash and Timbaland are in that list of writers too, but you didn't give THEM all the credit. Telling.

Tell me, do women say things like "Monica lewinsky'd" and quote "The Big Lebowski"? Does that sound like an authentic female p.o.v.?

How many women do you know? Who the fuck are THEY?

That had to be addressed. Sorry not sorry.

BlaqueKnight said:

paisleypark4 said:

She pretty much summed it up in the videos on the album in youtube.

She explains that her fans are growing up with her and it was time she express herself the way she wants to, how she feels as a mother and a wife. Really you should listen to the whole album instead of nitpicking.

Well, that pretty much clears everything up.

/thread.

Ya thanks for replying folks should do some research