Giving Donna an award was out of sympathy... and down right insulting to her legacy

SoulAlive said:

Do these type of petitions work? It seems like the Rock n Roll Hall of Fame folks do whatever they please.Donna Summer had to die before they finally decided to induct her.

This post makes perfect sense

hausofmoi7 said:

Janet for the Rock and Roll hall of fame, for sure.

But who cares anyway. Isn't it just a bunch of journalists at Rolling Stone who are deciding who "their' favourite artists are?

She's in my Hall of Fame.

I don't particpate with fan petitions and I find them too obsessive including you

babynoz said:

The thread title is misleading. This is not Janet Jackson's open letter to anybody....it's a fan petition.

The committee gets hundreds of these things every year for a lot of artists so I doubt they pay attention to them but good luck with that.

The Rock And Roll Hall of Fame is an event managed by so called politicians in the music industry and as the remaining members of the Sex Pistols put it straight.... it's just a piss stain.

uniden said:

I don't understand why the boob thing at the super bowel is still being held against her? I didn't think it was that huge a deal! When are people ever going to get over it?

Really its not, its just what the Stans use as the reason for her below average output there after.

uniden said:

I don't understand why the boob thing at the super bowel is still being held against her? I didn't think it was that huge a deal! When are people ever going to get over it?

It wasn't a big deal - but conservative American's blew it way out of proportion.

She probably the only artist to ever been blacklisted from all major radio outlets and the only person to be disinvited from the Grammys in the States. The rest of the world like sheep followed:

Example:

"Just a Little While" was released as the lead single from Damita Jo on February 2, 2004. Jackson rushed to film a music video for the song after a premature leak. "Just a Little While" received highly positive reviews from critics, who felt its elements of rock and dance music would ensure the song success. The song's airplay increased over five-hundred percent on its official release date, also achieving "sizeable" digital downloads. Its airplay suffered when Jackson's blacklist was placed into effect by major radio broadcasters who were fined after Jackson's Super Bowl incident, affecting its overall chart positions worldwide. The song was quickly pulled from radio. "Just a Little While" peaked at number forty-five and within the top twenty in airplay in the United States, making it her first solo and lowest peaking lead single since "Come Give Your Love to Me" over twenty years prior'

SB IS NOT AN EXCUSE FOR HER DEMISE AFTER SB - IT IS THE REASON - I THINK PEOPLE SHOULD DO SOME RESEARCH BEFORE MAKING IGNORANT AND GROUNDLESS COMMENTS!

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

The ground-breaking album, "Control" (1986), ushered in a new sound and a new confidence that helped Janet emerge from her brothers' shadows. Record label executives scrambled to get a "Janet-type" artist on their roster. There were many: Pebbles, Karyn White, Paula Abdul, Jody Watley, Vanessa Williams, Nia Peeples, etc. flooded the radio airwaves. None had the longevity, talent or creative impact of Janet Jackson.

The Fan that wrote the letter is passionate and made great points but I have an issue with him/her running over other Artists just to make Janet look good. That part of the letter is Rude, Shady and a slap in te face to those vocalists. Only an Ignorant person would even DREAM of saying Jody Watley is not talented...

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

Well depends on how you look at it....

..LOL...Janet got the kind of Booty you worship 24/7 and use as a pillow...

uniden said:

I don't understand why the boob thing at the super bowel is still being held against her? I didn't think it was that huge a deal! When are people ever going to get over it?

Hell I see more tits on Victoria Secrets TV special every year than Janet's superbowl slip up.

Chancellor said:

SEANMAN said:

SEANMAN said:

I like a few or her tracks, but can't say I'm a fan. That said, considering some of the acts that are in there, she should be in.

alphastreet said:

babynoz said:

The thread title is misleading. This is not Janet Jackson's open letter to anybody....it's a fan petition.

The committee gets hundreds of these things every year for a lot of artists so I doubt they pay attention to them but good luck with that.

lazycrockett said:

Maybe the Whispering and Moaning Hall Of Fame.

Stymie said:

lazycrockett said:

Maybe the Whispering and Moaning Hall Of Fame.

lowkey said:

lazycrockett said:

Jimmy and Terry will get in.

because of janet

Not to take away from JJ&&TL's talent. Because they are very gifted producers & musicians. But without Janet! Sorry they would not be revelant. She made EVERYONE take notice of them. After her EVERYBODY wanted them. Even her brother....

Chancellor said:

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

..LOL...Janet got the kind of Booty you worship 24/7 and use as a pillow...

SEANMAN said:

I don't think the RHOF is relevant or their opinion matters and like plenty have said there are more deserving artists that should technically be inducted before her although she deserves to get in to. The fact still remains Janet is underrated. Unfornately, I think Janet will get her rightful respect once God forbid something serious happens to her. I just think that the industry should tribute and acknowledge their music legends and icons while they are still alive to witness and appreciate them. It should not have to take the passing of an artist for the industry to finally respect them. I just think its sad because it is almost like the industry is trying to erase her legacy. She has had the same amount of influence on today's entertainers as Madonna has and is hardly ever mentioned. No female pop artist today has released an album as influential, socially conscious and daring as Rhythm Nation but no one never talks about that.

SEANMAN said:

novabrkr said:

I did do "a quick internet search". The most comprehensive list was provided by Wikipedia and all the references to her "worldwide sales" at least were just links to PR nonsense with nothing to back it up. Can you provide links to something better yourself? The US sales numbers seemed quite believable, but the worldwide sales numbers seemed simply made up (14 million for, both, Control and Rhythm Nation worldwide? What a nice round figure those both albums have ended up selling! Wonder how that came about...).

Even with the sales figures in Wikipedia the total sales don't add up to more than 70 million copies of her albums. And like stated, that's highly questionable.

Janet's biggest sellers have never even been recertified stateside, so there's no telling what their true current sales tallies are. The janet. album alone has likely surpassed the 10 million mark in the US.

They sure can't have doubled their sales in the US and around the world. Even when MJ was alive his back catalog sold approx. 1 million a year and nobody should believe those numbers his P&R team and the Jackson family simply came up with later. At first they doubled those figures then a few years quadrupled them! (Why not quadruple them if just a few years ago we were able to double them, right?). Then the P&R team of Beyonce and the like followed and the real numbers didn't matter anymore as long as somebody just typed it out on an entertainment website and linked to Wikipedia.

What's wrong with fans of popstars these days anyway? 60-70 million albums is a huge amount of albums sold, you don't need to come up with some made up figures to make your idols look better.

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novabrkr said:

SEANMAN said:

Janet's biggest sellers have never even been recertified stateside, so there's no telling what their true current sales tallies are. The janet. album alone has likely surpassed the 10 million mark in the US.

They sure can't have doubled their sales in the US and around the world. Even when MJ was alive his back catalog sold approx. 1 million a year and nobody should believe those numbers his P&R team and the Jackson family simply came up with later. At first they doubled those figures then a few years quadrupled them! (Why not quadruple them if just a few years ago we were able to double them, right?). Then the P&R team of Beyonce and the like followed and the real numbers didn't matter anymore as long as somebody just typed it out on an entertainment website and linked to Wikipedia.

What's wrong with fans of popstars these days anyway? 60-70 million albums is a huge amount of albums sold, you don't need to come up with some made up figures to make your idols look better.

[Edited 2/27/14 5:45am]

Are you sure the figures represent album sales or record sales which include both albums and singles?

mjscarousal said:

I don't think the RHOF is relevant or their opinion matters and like plenty have said there are more deserving artists that should technically be inducted before her although she deserves to get in to. The fact still remains Janet is underrated. Unfornately, I think Janet will get her rightful respect once God forbid something serious happens to her. I just think that the industry should tribute and acknowledge their music legends and icons while they are still alive to witness and appreciate them. It should not have to take the passing of an artist for the industry to finally respect them. I just think its sad because it is almost like the industry is trying to erase her legacy. She has had the same amount of influence on today's entertainers as Madonna has and is hardly ever mentioned. No female pop artist today has released an album as influential, socially conscious and daring as Rhythm Nation but no one never talks about that.

I didn't want to say that, but you took the words right out of my mouth. Michael gets way more credit than her, even for ideas he borrowed from her and she needs her credit. Normally I see him and Britney be listed as big 90's artists when it should be both of them, but I guess it's too much if it's from the same family...

[Edited 2/27/14 7:03am]

dseann said:

novabrkr said:

They sure can't have doubled their sales in the US and around the world. Even when MJ was alive his back catalog sold approx. 1 million a year and nobody should believe those numbers his P&R team and the Jackson family simply came up with later. At first they doubled those figures then a few years quadrupled them! (Why not quadruple them if just a few years ago we were able to double them, right?). Then the P&R team of Beyonce and the like followed and the real numbers didn't matter anymore as long as somebody just typed it out on an entertainment website and linked to Wikipedia.

What's wrong with fans of popstars these days anyway? 60-70 million albums is a huge amount of albums sold, you don't need to come up with some made up figures to make your idols look better.

[Edited 2/27/14 5:45am]

Are you sure the figures represent album sales or record sales which include both albums and singles?

The letter this thread is about refers to album sales. Not that singles, especially during the CD single days, really sold millions and millions of copies either.

One possibility is that some dumbass has just counted in those US sales in her overall worldwide sales figures twice. The Wiki page mentions "US" and "World" sales separately, but the "world" sales seem to include the US sales in them as well (that's explicated nowhere on the page itself, but there's no way in hell the Control album sold 3 times as many copies outside the US as it did domestically). That way you might end up closer to a figure like 100-120 million and maybe that's gotten cited across the web. Of course, pop music fans are also under the false impression that the back catalogs by their favourite artists keep selling millions and millions of copies each year (the likes of The Beatles and Pink Floyd, maybe, but Janet Jackson, most likely not).

I think I've commented enough on this matter though. Unless someone can provide at least somewhat convincing links on what Janet Jackson's album sales are I don't think I am interested in "fighting" over this stuff anymore. My point is that even if her album sales are somewhere around 60 million that's impressive enough on its own right. There should be no need for the fanbase to come up with made up figures in order to make her seem bigger than what she is.

[Edited 2/27/14 7:50am]

Stymie said:

not mad at all. Y'all want me to be though.


It's you guys opinion she's great. It's others that she is not. Y'all need to be okay with that.