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Thread started 02/10/14 10:43pm

Gunsnhalen

The ''Racists'' Grammy Complaints

I see people are still going hard on The Grammy Awards. Because of Kendrick not winning any of the nigths awards and some others. People were going crazy calling grammy awards racists and yada yada.

So what do you call Lauryn Hill sweeping the grammys in 1999? she was the biggest winner of the night. And even took home album of the year! and she was African American... and a woman. The grammy awards have been called sexist and racists. If they were both why let her win all those?

What do you call the years Stevie Wonder dominated in the 70's? he was killin it! and everyone knows the Grammy train was full on when Stevie was in town. Hell, most people didn't wanna be nominated by him. Cause they knew they would lose lol

Quincy Jones? Lionel Richie? Natalie Cole? Whitney Houston? Outkast? Ray Charles? Herbie Hancock? all Album Of The Year winners.

And then there is the ''hate for hip-hop'' thing going on.

So Kanye being nominated for 12 awards for College Dropout was nothing? The Fugees The Score being nominated was nothing? Outkast winning numerous awards including album of the year for Speakerboxx/Love below was nothing?

Nelly, Eminem, Outkast, Lauryn Hill, Kanye West, Lil Wayne, Missy Elliot, even MC fucking Hammer lol all nominated for album of the year.

So, where is this ''hate for hip-hop'' coming from? because a hip-hop album hasn't one album of the year for awhile?

If they hated hip-hop why even nominate hip-hop albums every year? which they do.

There has been a lot of hip-hop artists who were given grammy awards. A few even won album of the year. Just because Kendrick was robbed this year doesn't mean they hate hip-hop. And the racists thing i'm not sure about either.

Stevie Wonder has 22grammys then anyone. And he's on the damn show nearly every year lol Quincy Jones has 27, Jay-z has 19, Ray Charles has 20, Kanye West has 20, Beyonce has 17. And there all ranked in the tops with the most grammy awards. Does that mean nothing?


I want some valid opinions on this.

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Reply #1 posted 02/10/14 10:50pm

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All I can add is that the Grammy people have prejudices against disabled people. No disabled artist has won a Grammy this year! Fucking bastards!

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Reply #2 posted 02/10/14 11:25pm

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And they want to say every year a white artist is nominated... for hip-hop album of the year... they always win.

So, they like macklemore this year. And they loved Em... but what other white rappers won? lol. You mean 2? out of how many that won who where African Americans.

Naughty By Nature, The Fugees, Puff Daddy, Jay-Z, Outkast, Kanye West, Ludacris, Lil Wayne Drake. Over macklemore and Eminem. So, 13 years were won by African American artists. And 6 years of ''white rappers'' and it's mainly been Eminem. I don't see how black artist are being discredited for hip-hop here.

The Beastie Boys were nominated the year The College Dropout was... and we all know who won that award lol.

Oh and in 2006.. Encore by Eminem (Shitty album) was nominated... but lost.... to... say it with me now Late registration. So, every year a white artist was nominated. A black artist didn't win? what about those 2 times Yeezy beat out The Beasties and Em? do those not count?

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Reply #3 posted 02/10/14 11:43pm

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The hip-hop of the year award has been a thing since 1996. 4 years straight it was won by African American artists. Then Em won it 2 years in a row. Then Outkast, Then Em, Then outkast, Then Em again. After that it was yeezy, yeezy, Luda, Yeezy, and Wayne. 5 Straight years where no white artists (Included Em) won the Hip-Hop album of the year award.

Em then won 2 more years in a row... then Yeezy, then Drake. Macklemore probably won because it was the most popular. Kind of like how Take Care was no doubt the most popular in it's category.

If Outkast put out another proper album (Besides Idle) they probably would have killed it in another year.

And, if the Grammy awards are against certain people. Why would Yeezy have 21? when he's talked shit on them for years. And the industry in general... yet they gave him 21 awards over the years.

And as for ''elite elite'' that they say win these. is NBN elite elite? i think not lol. And they won the first hip-hop album of the year award! against 2Pac, Ol Dirty Bastard, Bone Thugs-n Harmony etc. Shit, i would say they were the underdogs.

If you wanted to make a call for why no ''female hip-hop'' MCS have won more of these. You may have a case! 1 out 12 in that category.

Now, y'all wanna talk about being shitted on. A Metal album has never won album or the year... or even been nominated. And the best ''metal song'' category is usually given to 4 or 5 artists. Usually to Ozzy, Judas Priest, Iron Maiden, Motorhead, or Megadeth. And they will nominate them for a live version of a song they made 35 years ago... now THAT is getting shit on. Hip-Hop is way more respected and loved then Metal at the grammys.

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Reply #4 posted 02/11/14 7:25am

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119 views and no ones chimed in? y'all scared? lol

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Reply #5 posted 02/11/14 7:58am

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It's like the complaint about the Billboard Hot 100 having no leading black artist having a number-one song. It's politics. People who know better know it's just politics, that's all it is. Much ado about nothing.

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Reply #6 posted 02/11/14 8:07am

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It's like the complaint about the Billboard Hot 100 having no leading black artist having a number-one song. It's politics. People who know better know it's just politics, that's all it is. Much ado about nothing.

It is... but i want peopel to debate me lol cause i see a lot of people on here telling how racists the grammy awards are. And how hip-hop and r&B is not respected and a ''white guy always wins''

When 11 of the 19 years had no white artists nominated. So there's more years where a white artist is NOT nominated. 2 count em 2 white artists have won best rap album. Eminem and Macklemore... and they are the only 2 white rappers to be nominated besides The Beastie Boys.

Kanye beat out the Beastie Boys one year... and another year he beat Eminem for Encore. So, every year a white artists is nominated. They have not won each time.

From 1995 when the first r&b album of the year came out. When Boys II men won, to this years where Alicia Keys won. No white artist has EVER won r&b album of the year. And they want to say white people rule r&B lol you kidding me?

Justin Timberlake won best r&b song this year. He's the ONLY white artist to do so. From 1969 to 1989 it was all African American artist. Not a single white artist won r&b song of the year until Simply Red. Then from 1991 to 2013 it was all African American artists. So a white artists winning 2 years out of 35? and people say white people rule r&b radio and awards? i need to see the receipts.

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Reply #7 posted 02/11/14 8:14am

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Kanye was nominated for 10 grammy awards one year. That was more than any other artist that year! he may not have won song or record of the year. But, he was nomianted outside hip-hop and rap awards. So was Lauryn! and Outkast... and Jay-Z.

Metal? even Metallica in their heyday didn't get nominated outside their one category. Yet hip-hop has 5 categories. R&B has quite a few, country has quite a few, even jazz does. And y'all wanna tell me hip-hop is the black sheep of the grammy awards? once again i need a lot of receipts.

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Reply #8 posted 02/11/14 8:48am

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The Grammys are so watered down now it doesn't matter who gets nominated....lollll

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Reply #9 posted 02/11/14 9:01am

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Javi said:

All I can add is that the Grammy people have prejudices against disabled people. No disabled artist has won a Grammy this year! Fucking bastards!

Kanye West is disabled...

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Reply #10 posted 02/11/14 9:29am

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Damn... nobody wants to chime in? lol i work in the entertainment industry as a sound designer. Between their, the org, and my facebook. For weeks i have been fucking hearing ''racists grammys'' and hip-hop is the red headed step child of the grammys.

All people gotta do is look at Grammy history. Hip-Hop artists have one dozens and dozens of awards. And a lot of African Americans have won dozens of awards in that category. African Americans have also won rock awards, country awards, jazz awards, blues awards etc. So it's not just the so called ''black'' music categories they have won in.

BTW there's lots of great black artists who do heavy metal. None of them have been nominated in the metal category... cause like i said metal gets shit on. It's always the same 5 artists.

I don't think hip-hop gets shit on as much as people say. R&B, pop, and rap dominate radio. And it has been for years and years. Rock hasn't dominated in.... idk how long it's been.

R&b album of the year HAS NEVER been won by a white person. R&B song of the year has been won by a white person TWICE since 1969.

12 African American artists have won album of the year. Even a mexican artist won in 2000! Mr Carlos Santana.

Almost every year in the 00's artists of color were nominated for album of the year.

And once again the ''elite'' they say only the elite people are the ones nominated. Nelly is not an elite... he was nominated for album of the year.

Lauryn Hill is not elite... she won album of the year. Inia.Arie is not elite... yet was nominated for album of the year. Tracy Chapman too..
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I need more receipts at the grammys being racists shit being thrown around. I also need more receipts about white artists winning in the r&b and hip-hop categories. When as mentioned... no white artist ever won r&b album of the year. And only 2 won r8b song of the year int he 35 years of r&b song of the year.

Some of y'all say that white artists dominate r&b radio. WHO? what other white artists besides Justin Timberlake and Robin Thicke were played on r&b radio in the 00's? oh... none. So 2 white artists in an entire decade? and yet r&b is being taken over by white people? once again i need receipts.

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One thing I'll always bitch about concerning the Grammy is the voters & voting process.. I can't believe in the last 3 years they choose shitty music to win & nominate... But racism? That never happened, as you said Gun, MJ collecting record-breaking 8 grammys in 84, Stevie, Kanye, these are black people who won several times.. so racism isn't the problem, sexism either.. Some of us just want to blame it on those things to be satisfied & feel better. The only reason why your favorite loses it's because he didn't get as much as vote the winner got, I still have another say in that now that lately a Grammy comitte member said that the voting process is led by people who decide the winners based on something other than quality & talent, and that something changes every year.. It was the global success of '21' in 2011, and the comeback of Daft Punk this year, regarding the better album between the nominees, the winner is always an album & artist who ruled the year at some point.. It pisses me off how the Grammys anyway lost their crediblity a long time ago, look at the Oscars, people in film dream during their whole career to win an oscar and hell when they do they only win 1 oscar.. also, academy award nominations are actually good & well-deserved, while Grammys nominate Katy Perry for Song of The Year for "Roar".. ignoring a lot of memorable songs..

Winning isn't the problem in my opinion, Kendrick will get his shot sooner or later. The problem is the process of nominating & voting for winners... they should grow up and appreciate good music and ditch the idea of "Pop music brings more views", I'm sure if they do appreciate good music their fans & people all around the world would actually TUNE IN.

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People just like having stuff to complain about... and you're ruining it for them smile

Change it one more time..
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Reply #13 posted 02/11/14 12:05pm

Gunsnhalen

Shawy89 said:

One thing I'll always bitch about concerning the Grammy is the voters & voting process.. I can't believe in the last 3 years they choose shitty music to win & nominate... But racism? That never happened, as you said Gun, MJ collecting record-breaking 8 grammys in 84, Stevie, Kanye, these are black people who won several times.. so racism isn't the problem, sexism either.. Some of us just want to blame it on those things to be satisfied & feel better. The only reason why your favorite loses it's because he didn't get as much as vote the winner got, I still have another say in that now that lately a Grammy comitte member said that the voting process is led by people who decide the winners based on something other than quality & talent, and that something changes every year.. It was the global success of '21' in 2011, and the comeback of Daft Punk this year, regarding the better album between the nominees, the winner is always an album & artist who ruled the year at some point.. It pisses me off how the Grammys anyway lost their crediblity a long time ago, look at the Oscars, people in film dream during their whole career to win an oscar and hell when they do they only win 1 oscar.. also, academy award nominations are actually good & well-deserved, while Grammys nominate Katy Perry for Song of The Year for "Roar".. ignoring a lot of memorable songs..

Winning isn't the problem in my opinion, Kendrick will get his shot sooner or later. The problem is the process of nominating & voting for winners... they should grow up and appreciate good music and ditch the idea of "Pop music brings more views", I'm sure if they do appreciate good music their fans & people all around the world would actually TUNE IN.

Thank you shawy! finally some with a good answer biggrin to me the grammys are a very mixed bag. Sometimes they can go for what's popular... and sometimes they will suprise. Like when Herbie Hancock won, or Robert Plant & Alison Kraus (TRUST ME no one saw that coming lol )

They either will go with older, classic artists. Like Herbie, Ray Charles Robert plant, Steely Dan etc. So they do suprise sometimes...

But, yes i don't think racism is an issue. if it was Kanye would not have 21 grammy awards. He has talked shit about the grammys, the industry, and everything in general. Yet they still gave him shit tons of awards. Outkast and Jay-Z were always given shit tons of awards. Even in Jay-Z contorversial day he was a grammy golden boy. Lil Wayne even got like 10 nominations... and lord knows he's a mess lol

I think the voting and everything shoudl change up a bit. It's either ''what's popular'' or ''old artists'' that sweep everything. There should be some middle ground.

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Reply #14 posted 02/11/14 12:05pm

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lezama said:

People just like having stuff to complain about... and you're ruining it for them smile

lol hey bro i'm just giving facts and receipts. There just giving me flapin gums.

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Reply #15 posted 02/11/14 12:26pm

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Gunsnhalen said:

But, yes i don't think racism is an issue. if it was Kanye would not have 21 grammy awards. He has talked shit about the grammys, the industry, and everything in general.

eek eek eek eek For what? If he has racked up 21 Grammy Awards in his relatively short career, he needs to sit his silly ass down and shut the fuck up!

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Reply #16 posted 02/11/14 12:28pm

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Gunsnhalen said:

Shawy89 said:

No problem Guns, I'm here for threads like these... discussing music industry & revealing the real truth smile lol

Myself I never bought Alison Crauss winning over Coldplay's Viva la vida, it was their biggest record ever, they dominated 2008 but hey it's the citeria that changes, dunno what happened but she won lol

And to be honest with you I kinda hate the Sweeping habit, Adele swept and won 6 awards (Song of the year, album of the year, record of the year, pop categories), So did Norah Jones, Amy Winehouse, these are good aritsts but voters should actually think about people who stand up 6 times pretending they're happy for the winner while they're not, a moment on stage, that's what they ask for! and how much is enough? It's like being invited in somebody's birthday and eating all the cake.. Even the oscars when fantasy movies already have technical categories in the bag (Life of pi, Inception, Gravity this year), script & directings award go to other drama films, and acting is always diverse.

You know what, I actually think that racism IS indeed the silliest reason ever to diss the grammys, just realized Jay Z wins EVERY year... EVERY year... one of the real issues is the way Grammy comitte deals with new releases, I believe they snub some albums because of their lyrical content (Too sexual, too controversial & out of this world, like Monae's The Archandroid) or the way it was presented, marketed.. you just never know, god only knows what's in store for poor good artists this year, they should already know Eminem & Beyoncé will sweep with their EPs.. give the young generation a chance, at least allow them to perform, and keep LL Not-Cool-Anymore J from hosting the show.. The Grammys shall be better by then.

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kitbradley said:

Gunsnhalen said:

But, yes i don't think racism is an issue. if it was Kanye would not have 21 grammy awards. He has talked shit about the grammys, the industry, and everything in general.

eek eek eek eek For what? If he has racked up 21 Grammy Awards in his relatively short career, he needs to sit his silly ass down and shut the fuck up!

yeah bout that, Kanye is such a douche bag for dissing artists cuz they won awards over him, he has all the awards in the world!


"It should've been 31!!!" Bowie has one Grammy, Prince has 7!!! In what world this bitch wants more!!?

Funny thing is lol I was listening to "Hot Thang" by Prince when I was writing this, "Hot thang, barely 21!" me imagining Kanye singing to his Grammys lol

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Reply #18 posted 02/11/14 1:13pm

Timmy84

Kanye should be the last one to complain. Almost every other year since 2005, he's been nominated for a Grammy and more than likely has won. Like lezama said, people just need to find shit to complain about. This board is psuedo social justice warrior bullshit at times.

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Reply #19 posted 02/11/14 1:49pm

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I think it's that the lack of black artists who won or were nominated this year was just more apparent because like your posts said black artists have constantly won grammys throughout the years. But I don't think it's a big deal because the grammys is just a popularity contest anyway and not really about whose music is better, and it's why other genres get shunned.

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Reply #20 posted 02/11/14 2:22pm

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Timmy84 said:

Kanye should be the last one to complain. Almost every other year since 2005, he's been nominated for a Grammy and more than likely has won. Like lezama said, people just need to find shit to complain about. This board is psuedo social justice warrior bullshit at times.

lol lol lol Thank you Tim! what you said is perfect.

Yes he it did such MBDTF didn't get an album of the year nod. But with 21 grammys how can you complain?

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Reply #21 posted 02/11/14 2:32pm

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I see people are still going hard on The Grammy Awards. Because of Kendrick not winning any of the nigths awards and some others. People were going crazy calling grammy awards racists and yada yada.

So what do you call Lauryn Hill sweeping the grammys in 1999? she was the biggest winner of the night. And even took home album of the year! and she was African American... and a woman. The grammy awards have been called sexist and racists. If they were both why let her win all those?

What do you call the years Stevie Wonder dominated in the 70's? he was killin it! and everyone knows the Grammy train was full on when Stevie was in town. Hell, most people didn't wanna be nominated by him. Cause they knew they would lose lol

Quincy Jones? Lionel Richie? Natalie Cole? Whitney Houston? Outkast? Ray Charles? Herbie Hancock? all Album Of The Year winners.

And then there is the ''hate for hip-hop'' thing going on.

So Kanye being nominated for 12 awards for College Dropout was nothing? The Fugees The Score being nominated was nothing? Outkast winning numerous awards including album of the year for Speakerboxx/Love below was nothing?

Nelly, Eminem, Outkast, Lauryn Hill, Kanye West, Lil Wayne, Missy Elliot, even MC fucking Hammer lol all nominated for album of the year.

So, where is this ''hate for hip-hop'' coming from? because a hip-hop album hasn't one album of the year for awhile?

If they hated hip-hop why even nominate hip-hop albums every year? which they do.

There has been a lot of hip-hop artists who were given grammy awards. A few even won album of the year. Just because Kendrick was robbed this year doesn't mean they hate hip-hop. And the racists thing i'm not sure about either.

Stevie Wonder has 22grammys then anyone. And he's on the damn show nearly every year lol Quincy Jones has 27, Jay-z has 19, Ray Charles has 20, Kanye West has 20, Beyonce has 17. And there all ranked in the tops with the most grammy awards. Does that mean nothing?


I want some valid opinions on this.

IT IS NO SECRECT THAT THE GRAMMY COMMITIEE IS NOT A BIG FAN OF BLACK MUSIC. THIS GOES WAY BACK TO WHEN RAY CHARLES WAS HOT. NONE OF THE HOT BLACK ARTIST OF THE DAY WON GRAMMYS WAY BACK WHEN. CHECK OUT JAMES BROWN, SLY STONE, ANY OF THE MOTOWN ARTIST, STAX, ARTIST, PHILLY, INTERNATIONAL. AL GREEN, BARRY WHITE, THE LIST IS TOO LONG. THE CURRENT PEOPLE THAT U ARE MENTION IS JUST TO CORRECT WHAT THEY MESS UP IN THE PAST.

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Reply #22 posted 02/11/14 2:39pm

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jackson35 said:

Gunsnhalen said:

I see people are still going hard on The Grammy Awards. Because of Kendrick not winning any of the nigths awards and some others. People were going crazy calling grammy awards racists and yada yada.

So what do you call Lauryn Hill sweeping the grammys in 1999? she was the biggest winner of the night. And even took home album of the year! and she was African American... and a woman. The grammy awards have been called sexist and racists. If they were both why let her win all those?

What do you call the years Stevie Wonder dominated in the 70's? he was killin it! and everyone knows the Grammy train was full on when Stevie was in town. Hell, most people didn't wanna be nominated by him. Cause they knew they would lose lol

Quincy Jones? Lionel Richie? Natalie Cole? Whitney Houston? Outkast? Ray Charles? Herbie Hancock? all Album Of The Year winners.

And then there is the ''hate for hip-hop'' thing going on.

So Kanye being nominated for 12 awards for College Dropout was nothing? The Fugees The Score being nominated was nothing? Outkast winning numerous awards including album of the year for Speakerboxx/Love below was nothing?

Nelly, Eminem, Outkast, Lauryn Hill, Kanye West, Lil Wayne, Missy Elliot, even MC fucking Hammer lol all nominated for album of the year.

So, where is this ''hate for hip-hop'' coming from? because a hip-hop album hasn't one album of the year for awhile?

If they hated hip-hop why even nominate hip-hop albums every year? which they do.

There has been a lot of hip-hop artists who were given grammy awards. A few even won album of the year. Just because Kendrick was robbed this year doesn't mean they hate hip-hop. And the racists thing i'm not sure about either.

Stevie Wonder has 22grammys then anyone. And he's on the damn show nearly every year lol Quincy Jones has 27, Jay-z has 19, Ray Charles has 20, Kanye West has 20, Beyonce has 17. And there all ranked in the tops with the most grammy awards. Does that mean nothing?


I want some valid opinions on this.

IT IS NO SECRECT THAT THE GRAMMY COMMITIEE IS NOT A BIG FAN OF BLACK MUSIC. THIS GOES WAY BACK TO WHEN RAY CHARLES WAS HOT. NONE OF THE HOT BLACK ARTIST OF THE DAY WON GRAMMYS WAY BACK WHEN. CHECK OUT JAMES BROWN, SLY STONE, ANY OF THE MOTOWN ARTIST, STAX, ARTIST, PHILLY, INTERNATIONAL. AL GREEN, BARRY WHITE, THE LIST IS TOO LONG. THE CURRENT PEOPLE THAT U ARE MENTION IS JUST TO CORRECT WHAT THEY MESS UP IN THE PAST.

Err that as years ago. And in the days of Sly Stone and Al Green. Quincy Jones and Stevie were eating the grammys alive. How do you explain that? maybe they just prefered Stevie and Quincy.

Back in Rays day Nat King Cole was a grammy darling. He got nominated for album of the year in 1962, and performaned quite a lot. Ray Charles also got nominations for albums of the year in the 60's. Just to be nominated is a huge deal. You're saying this in caps lock as if they were never nominated lol

The very first Album of The Year had Ella Fitzgerald nominated too.

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Reply #23 posted 02/11/14 2:44pm

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jackson35 said:

Gunsnhalen said:

I see people are still going hard on The Grammy Awards. Because of Kendrick not winning any of the nigths awards and some others. People were going crazy calling grammy awards racists and yada yada.

So what do you call Lauryn Hill sweeping the grammys in 1999? she was the biggest winner of the night. And even took home album of the year! and she was African American... and a woman. The grammy awards have been called sexist and racists. If they were both why let her win all those?

What do you call the years Stevie Wonder dominated in the 70's? he was killin it! and everyone knows the Grammy train was full on when Stevie was in town. Hell, most people didn't wanna be nominated by him. Cause they knew they would lose lol

Quincy Jones? Lionel Richie? Natalie Cole? Whitney Houston? Outkast? Ray Charles? Herbie Hancock? all Album Of The Year winners.

And then there is the ''hate for hip-hop'' thing going on.

So Kanye being nominated for 12 awards for College Dropout was nothing? The Fugees The Score being nominated was nothing? Outkast winning numerous awards including album of the year for Speakerboxx/Love below was nothing?

Nelly, Eminem, Outkast, Lauryn Hill, Kanye West, Lil Wayne, Missy Elliot, even MC fucking Hammer lol all nominated for album of the year.

So, where is this ''hate for hip-hop'' coming from? because a hip-hop album hasn't one album of the year for awhile?

If they hated hip-hop why even nominate hip-hop albums every year? which they do.

There has been a lot of hip-hop artists who were given grammy awards. A few even won album of the year. Just because Kendrick was robbed this year doesn't mean they hate hip-hop. And the racists thing i'm not sure about either.

Stevie Wonder has 22grammys then anyone. And he's on the damn show nearly every year lol Quincy Jones has 27, Jay-z has 19, Ray Charles has 20, Kanye West has 20, Beyonce has 17. And there all ranked in the tops with the most grammy awards. Does that mean nothing?


I want some valid opinions on this.

IT IS NO SECRECT THAT THE GRAMMY COMMITIEE IS NOT A BIG FAN OF BLACK MUSIC. THIS GOES WAY BACK TO WHEN RAY CHARLES WAS HOT. NONE OF THE HOT BLACK ARTIST OF THE DAY WON GRAMMYS WAY BACK WHEN. CHECK OUT JAMES BROWN, SLY STONE, ANY OF THE MOTOWN ARTIST, STAX, ARTIST, PHILLY, INTERNATIONAL. AL GREEN, BARRY WHITE, THE LIST IS TOO LONG. THE CURRENT PEOPLE THAT U ARE MENTION IS JUST TO CORRECT WHAT THEY MESS UP IN THE PAST.

amen.....and that's one of the reasons its watered down now

because they didn't give to to people who deserevd it when it mattered most..

it's about political correctness now

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Reply #24 posted 02/11/14 2:49pm

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jackson35 said:

IT IS NO SECRECT THAT THE GRAMMY COMMITIEE IS NOT A BIG FAN OF BLACK MUSIC. THIS GOES WAY BACK TO WHEN RAY CHARLES WAS HOT. NONE OF THE HOT BLACK ARTIST OF THE DAY WON GRAMMYS WAY BACK WHEN. CHECK OUT JAMES BROWN, SLY STONE, ANY OF THE MOTOWN ARTIST, STAX, ARTIST, PHILLY, INTERNATIONAL. AL GREEN, BARRY WHITE, THE LIST IS TOO LONG. THE CURRENT PEOPLE THAT U ARE MENTION IS JUST TO CORRECT WHAT THEY MESS UP IN THE PAST.

amen.....and that's one of the reasons its watered down now

because they didn't give to to people who deserevd it when it mattered most..

it's about political correctness now

What do you call Nat King Cole, Ella Fitzgerald, and others getting grammys in the 60s? do those not count. lol

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Reply #25 posted 02/11/14 2:56pm

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Y'all killing me lol poltiical correctness? jeebus y'all are delusional. What if the album was just fucking? did the 3 albums Stevie won for not deserve it? did all the awards Quincy get, were they not deserved? was Lauryn Hill not deserved? Whitney Houston? Michael Jackson? Outkast? poltical correctness my fucking ass. The grammys have been around since 1959. African American artists have been nominated for album of the year since that year. Stevie dominated the entire 70's year with his grammys wins! Or Michael Jackson or janet... since y'all like to talk about their awards so much lol

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Reply #26 posted 02/11/14 3:01pm

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OK heres a little FACT for people

Kanye West 21 Grammy Wins

Beyonce 17 Grammy Wins

Jay Z 17 Grammy Wins

The Beatles 14 Grammy Wins (almost have for the Beatles Anthology Series) two decades after they broke up and one member was dead.

Now if it is the "black" artist that isnt "LIKED" by people I agree, I also agree that Lenny Kravitz and Bruce Springsteen should be nominated for a ROCK grammy everytime they shit, (and Clapton too) but deal with it, they dont matter remember.....


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Reply #27 posted 02/11/14 3:03pm

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What political correctness? So, means every black actor now from Denzel Washington to Morgan Freeman are winning oscars because black never won before Sidney Poitier?

Tbh I heard this somewhere else and I couldn't believe what people think of, what's next I mean, Illuminati people are planning to destroy african-american race?

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Reply #28 posted 02/11/14 3:04pm

Gunsnhalen

lastdecember said:

OK heres a little FACT for people

Kanye West 21 Grammy Wins

Beyonce 17 Grammy Wins

Jay Z 17 Grammy Wins

The Beatles 14 Grammy Wins (almost have for the Beatles Anthology Series) two decades after they broke up and one member was dead.

Now if it is the "black" artist that isnt "LIKED" by people I agree, I also agree that Lenny Kravitz and Bruce Springsteen should be nominated for a ROCK grammy everytime they shit, (and Clapton too) but deal with it, they dont matter remember.....

More facts and receipts people can't deal with lol but yes it's true... those 3 have more then The Beatles. AND Michael Jackson.

Pistols sounded like "Fuck off," wheras The Clash sounded like "Fuck Off, but here's why.."- Thedigitialgardener

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Reply #29 posted 02/11/14 3:27pm

Timmy84

Here's an unknown fact: Dinah Washington won the first ever Grammy Award given out to Best R&B Performance back in 1959 during the first annual Grammys.

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