November 26, 2013
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There's a bit of a quirky new twist in Robin Thicke's lawsuit claiming that "Blurred Lines" wasn't stolen from Marvin Gaye's "Got to Give It Up."

Marvin Gaye III, the adopted eldest of the singer's children, has hired his own attorney and has filed his own counterclaim in the lawsuit.

He follows Frankie Christian Gaye and Nona Gaye, who filed a countersuit in October claiming that Thicke and his producers Pharrell Williams and Clifford Harris Jr. committed copyright infringement on two songs. At the time, the non-participation of Gaye III was noted by several media outlets. Gaye III is now standing up on his own.

According to his counterclaim, "Thicke’s “Blurred Lines” (copied from Gaye’s “Got To Give It Up”), Thicke’s “Love After War” (copied from Gaye’s “After The Dance”), Thicke’s “Make U Love Me” (copied from Gaye’s “I Want You”), and Thicke’s “Million Dolla Baby” (copied from Gaye’s “Trouble Man”) all serve as examples of songs so similar to Gaye’s songs as to leave no doubt but that they were each wholly dependent for their very creations upon Thicke’s brazen copying."

While Gaye III alleges copying on four songs, like his siblings, he's only bringing copyright claims on “Blurred Lines” and "Love After War.” Unlike the other countersuit, there's no allegation made that EMI April, the song publisher now owned by Sony/ATV, breached a contract and its fiduciary duty by failing to protect Gaye's songs. If there's squabbling in the Gaye family, it could add a wrinkle to any settlement discussions.

And should the lawsuit prove successful, it could necessitate some sorting in the disbursement of damages. In the short-term, though, with Thicke's lawyer signaling a challenge to the Gaye family's standing in bringing a copyright claim, any family strife over rights might come up.

yeah baby

obliterate the hijacking

Urgh. When will they settle this already? This whole scuffle about song copying is boring.

Moral of the story. Don't rip people off and try to say you're not.

This dick needs to pay the family for making money off Marvins talent.

NEXT!

More frivolous lawsuits, yay. Sometimes I hate being right. This claim should be thrown out of court for the ridiculous charge that "Would That Make U Love Me" copies "I Want You."

I agree that all parties including EMi, The Gaye Family & Thicke/Pharelle/producers need to sit at the table with their Representative Sharks and talk cash.....And Robin should NOT win any awards until this is settled and awards season will be over when it is......Growing up he Idolized Marvin & R&B singers and he LOVED the sound the producers created. Somewhere along the way things went wrong and the Suits at EMI are trying their BEST to cover somebody's tracks...I'm glad the Gaye family is fighting...

Oh ok, he's adopted. Cause I was about to say...nevermind.

Anyhoo, why wait and file a separate lawsuit? Wouldn't this only hinder the other lawsuit?

Chancellor said:

I agree that all parties including EMi, The Gaye Family & Thicke/Pharelle/producers need to sit at the table with their Representative Sharks and talk cash.....And Robin should NOT win any awards until this is settled and awards season will be over when it is......Growing up he Idolized Marvin & R&B singers and he LOVED the sound the producers created. Somewhere along the way things went wrong and the Suits at EMI are trying their BEST to cover somebody's tracks...I'm glad the Gaye family is fighting...

true day

Chancellor said:

I agree that all parties including EMi, The Gaye Family & Thicke/Pharelle/producers need to sit at the table with their Representative Sharks and talk cash.....And Robin should NOT win any awards until this is settled and awards season will be over when it is......Growing up he Idolized Marvin & R&B singers and he LOVED the sound the producers created. Somewhere along the way things went wrong and the Suits at EMI are trying their BEST to cover somebody's tracks...I'm glad the Gaye family is fighting...

I think the two lawsuits are different. It's not tried together. Nona and Frankie think they're being cut out of royalties. MG III's thing is Robin copied a lot of his (adopted) dad's songs in his opinion. So neither lawsuit has one to do with another.

[Edited 11/27/13 10:09am]

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

Oh ok, he's adopted. Cause I was about to say...nevermind.

Yeah adopted from Denise Gordy and an unknown father. He carries none of his adopted father's genes. Looks too Gordy-ish. Nona and Frankie look like their father spit them out so the Gaye genes are strong with them only.

[Edited 11/27/13 10:10am]

Identity said:

November 26, 2013
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There's a bit of a quirky new twist in Robin Thicke's lawsuit claiming that "Blurred Lines" wasn't stolen from Marvin Gaye's "Got to Give It Up."

Marvin Gaye III, the adopted eldest of the singer's children, has hired his own attorney and has filed his own counterclaim in the lawsuit.

He follows Frankie Christian Gaye and Nona Gaye, who filed a countersuit in October claiming that Thicke and his producers Pharrell Williams and Clifford Harris Jr. committed copyright infringement on two songs. At the time, the non-participation of Gaye III was noted by several media outlets. Gaye III is now standing up on his own.

According to his counterclaim, "Thicke’s “Blurred Lines” (copied from Gaye’s “Got To Give It Up”), Thicke’s “Love After War” (copied from Gaye’s “After The Dance”), Thicke’s “Make U Love Me” (copied from Gaye’s “I Want You”), and Thicke’s “Million Dolla Baby” (copied from Gaye’s “Trouble Man”) all serve as examples of songs so similar to Gaye’s songs as to leave no doubt but that they were each wholly dependent for their very creations upon Thicke’s brazen copying."

While Gaye III alleges copying on four songs, like his siblings, he's only bringing copyright claims on “Blurred Lines” and "Love After War.” Unlike the other countersuit, there's no allegation made that EMI April, the song publisher now owned by Sony/ATV, breached a contract and its fiduciary duty by failing to protect Gaye's songs. If there's squabbling in the Gaye family, it could add a wrinkle to any settlement discussions.

And should the lawsuit prove successful, it could necessitate some sorting in the disbursement of damages. In the short-term, though, with Thicke's lawyer signaling a challenge to the Gaye family's standing in bringing a copyright claim, any family strife over rights might come up.

The first time I heard Blurred Lines I totally recognized "Gotta to Give it UP", But I just assumed that they had got permission to do that! I mean it is 2013 isn't it?

It's so obvious it's Marvin's sound,

but don't get me wrong, I love Blurred Lines and Robin Thicke

woogiebear said:

It's like Michael Bolton ALL OVER AGAIN!!!!!

Marvin Gaye had a sound that a lot of artists have copied. I don't beleive he copied but he did borrow the sound. He should settle either way as it may be less costly. As far as the song Love after War...that's another story because that song is REALLY REALLY close to After the Dance by Marvin Gaye. But if it goes the distance it will depend really on whose attorney is the best.

Frederick96 said:

Marvin Gaye had a sound that a lot of artists have copied. I don't beleive he copied but he did borrow the sound. He should settle either way as it may be less costly. As far as the song Love after War...that's another story because that song is REALLY REALLY close to After the Dance by Marvin Gaye. But if it goes the distance it will depend really on whose attorney is the best.

I think they flat out jacked Marvin's song. Pharrell seems to be doing a lot of that now-a-days and trying to claim he was "inspired".

I heard this for the first time yesterday...

And I know good and damn well that I hear...

I don't care what he claims.

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

Frederick96 said:

Marvin Gaye had a sound that a lot of artists have copied. I don't beleive he copied but he did borrow the sound. He should settle either way as it may be less costly. As far as the song Love after War...that's another story because that song is REALLY REALLY close to After the Dance by Marvin Gaye. But if it goes the distance it will depend really on whose attorney is the best.

I think they flat out jacked Marvin's song. Pharrell seems to be doing a lot of that now-a-days and trying to claim he was "inspired".

I heard this for the first time yesterday...

And I know good and damn well that I hear...

I don't care what he claims.

and that J. Hud song was nothing but a rehash of this Pharrell production to me

Damn that J Hud song is definitely a rip. Hopefully she's getting a cut. Blurred Lines I just hear elements of the Marvin Gaye song. Enough to give royalties? Not sure. We will soon find out

Moral: Pharrell Williams; Hack?

CynicKill said:

Moral: Pharrell Williams; Hack?

lolllll

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

Frederick96 said:

Marvin Gaye had a sound that a lot of artists have copied. I don't beleive he copied but he did borrow the sound. He should settle either way as it may be less costly. As far as the song Love after War...that's another story because that song is REALLY REALLY close to After the Dance by Marvin Gaye. But if it goes the distance it will depend really on whose attorney is the best.

I think they flat out jacked Marvin's song. Pharrell seems to be doing a lot of that now-a-days and trying to claim he was "inspired".

I heard this for the first time yesterday...

And I know good and damn well that I hear...

I don't care what he claims.

Exactly. That's why I can't buy Robin and Pharell's story that this was just an "inspiration". Nah dude, people are straight jacking other artists' sounds.

CynicKill said:

Moral: Pharrell Williams; Hack?

Oh that's already been proven.

Frederick96 said:

Damn that J Hud song is definitely a rip. Hopefully she's getting a cut. Blurred Lines I just hear elements of the Marvin Gaye song. Enough to give royalties? Not sure. We will soon find out

Evelyn Champagne King better be or we'll be hearing about her suing their happy - straight jacking beats asses - too!

Timmy84 said:

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

I think they flat out jacked Marvin's song. Pharrell seems to be doing a lot of that now-a-days and trying to claim he was "inspired".

I heard this for the first time yesterday...

And I know good and damn well that I hear...

I don't care what he claims.

Exactly. That's why I can't buy Robin and Pharell's story that this was just an "inspiration". Nah dude, people are straight jacking other artists' sounds.

yet another hijack

it's a wrap

it's all over