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Thread started 11/15/13 8:52am

Shawy89

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Will male singers be irrelevant in the next 20 years?

Simple as dixy:

Female artists in the world right now that are famous & big: Rihanna, Katy Perry, Beyoncé, Lady Gaga, Adele, Miley Cyrus, Britney Spears, Taylor Swift...etc and lately Lorde & Lana Del Rey.. even craps like Selena Gomez are well known.

Selena Gomez who is nothing basically can get famous while young influential artists don't get a shit... Why? She's JB's girlfriend, and she is hot in her videos.

Males? Justin Timberlake, Bruno Mars and Bieber (well, that joke is old n we should get over it) are the only ones who got global appeal from all countries.

Back in 80's males were dominating the scene, from rock bands, to solos as Prince and MJ to pop groups.. So are male singers not relevant anymore? Urban-wise, we still have some of those R&B singers yet they don't manage to have bigger success, while every female star can get famous EASILY with a hit song/scandal/girlfriending another superstar....

I'm thinkin, is there going to be a new male artist to show up in the next years? But he will not last for sure, I think that audience are now leaning to female singers, I don't see any reason for that... What do you think?

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Reply #1 posted 11/15/13 9:19am

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pop will eat itself. in 20 years this current climate may be nothing but a bad memory.

and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
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Reply #2 posted 11/15/13 9:26am

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LOL...no...

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Reply #3 posted 11/15/13 9:32am

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IstenSzek said:

pop will eat itself. in 20 years this current climate may be nothing but a bad memory.

God, I hope you're right. It would be nice to have the focus on real artists who can sing, write and play an instrument or two.

Having said that, I do like Adele, but the others I wouldn't miss one bit.

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Reply #4 posted 11/15/13 9:46am

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There's many types of music besides Top 40. There's way more male metal groups than female or female led. Tejano & zydeco music tends to have more male singers than female, and so does rap and many other types of music. So whoever is popular on Top 40 has no relation on male singers being irrelevant or women singers/bands becoming more popular in genres in which they're shunned more.

You can take a black guy to Nashville from right out of the cotton fields with bib overalls, and they will call him R&B. You can take a white guy in a pin-stripe suit who’s never seen a cotton field, and they will call him country. ~ O. B. McClinton
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Reply #5 posted 11/15/13 10:08am

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Shawy89 said:

Simple as dixy:

Female artists in the world right now that are famous & big: Rihanna, Katy Perry, Beyoncé, Lady Gaga, Adele, Miley Cyrus, Britney Spears, Taylor Swift...etc and lately Lorde & Lana Del Rey.. even craps like Selena Gomez are well known.

Selena Gomez who is nothing basically can get famous while young influential artists don't get a shit... Why? She's JB's girlfriend, and she is hot in her videos.

Males? Justin Timberlake, Bruno Mars and Bieber (well, that joke is old n we should get over it) are the only ones who got global appeal from all countries.

Back in 80's males were dominating the scene, from rock bands, to solos as Prince and MJ to pop groups.. So are male singers not relevant anymore? Urban-wise, we still have some of those R&B singers yet they don't manage to have bigger success, while every female star can get famous EASILY with a hit song/scandal/girlfriending another superstar....

I'm thinkin, is there going to be a new male artist to show up in the next years? But he will not last for sure, I think that audience are now leaning to female singers, I don't see any reason for that... What do you think?

I don't know if females are dominating right now because I really don't look at the charts or listen to contemporary radio. However, I know back in the 70's and 80's, both males and females had equal footing at radio.


However, as time goes by, radio listeners tend to forget about the huge hits female artists had. They only seem to remember and request the hits by male performers. Just listen to old school R&B stations and Classic Rock stations. Classic Rock stations play like 95% male artists and Old-School R&B stations, at least 75% of the music they play are from male artists (the only females I hear in regular rotation are Anita, Sade, Jill & Mary). Classic Pop radio is really the only outlet where females from back in the day still receive a decent amount of attention.


So, females may be dominating right now. The question is, 20 years from now, how many of those songs are going to be remembered, relevant and still being played on the radio?




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kitbradley said:

However, as time goes by, radio listeners tend to forget about the huge hits female artists had. They only seem to remember and request the hits by male performers. Just listen to old school R&B stations and Classic Rock stations. Classic Rock stations play like 95% male artists and Old-School R&B stations, at least 75% of the music they play are from male artists (the only females I hear in regular rotation are Anita, Sade, Jill & Mary). Classic Pop radio is really the only outlet where females from back in the day still receive a decent amount of attention.

Rock radio has always been male oriented, even when they played new music. Like I posted old AOR charts in another thread, female acts were generally few. If you look at old concerts of hard rock or prog concerts, the majority of the audience was male.

You can take a black guy to Nashville from right out of the cotton fields with bib overalls, and they will call him R&B. You can take a white guy in a pin-stripe suit who’s never seen a cotton field, and they will call him country. ~ O. B. McClinton
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Reply #7 posted 11/15/13 1:37pm

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MickyDolenz said:

kitbradley said:

However, as time goes by, radio listeners tend to forget about the huge hits female artists had. They only seem to remember and request the hits by male performers. Just listen to old school R&B stations and Classic Rock stations. Classic Rock stations play like 95% male artists and Old-School R&B stations, at least 75% of the music they play are from male artists (the only females I hear in regular rotation are Anita, Sade, Jill & Mary). Classic Pop radio is really the only outlet where females from back in the day still receive a decent amount of attention.

Rock radio has always been male oriented, even when they played new music. Like I posted old AOR charts in another thread, female acts were generally few. If you look at old concerts of hard rock or prog concerts, the majority of the audience was male.

Yeah, I know. The only female rockers that immediately come to mind when I was growing up are Benetar, Deborah Harry, Joan Jett and, to a certain extent, Tina Turner. So, I can understand why Classic Rock stations are dominated by male artists. But, there is absolutely no excuse at Classic R&B radio. The only explanation I can come up with there is that there are more female radio listeners. Females tend to lean more towards and remember male singers so the stations cater to what their female listeners are asking for.

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Reply #8 posted 11/15/13 2:08pm

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kitbradley said:

MickyDolenz said:

Rock radio has always been male oriented, even when they played new music. Like I posted old AOR charts in another thread, female acts were generally few. If you look at old concerts of hard rock or prog concerts, the majority of the audience was male.

Yeah, I know. The only female rockers that immediately come to mind when I was growing up are Benetar, Deborah Harry, Joan Jett and, to a certain extent, Tina Turner. So, I can understand why Classic Rock stations are dominated by male artists. But, there is absolutely no excuse at Classic R&B radio. The only explanation I can come up with there is that there are more female radio listeners. Females tend to lean more towards and remember male singers so the stations cater to what their female listeners are asking for.

I think rock is usually associated with the guitar, and the guitar has mostly been seen as a male instrument. Women tended to be seen playing piano or woodwind instruments, which are not seen as aggressive instruments like rock guitar. How many women are considered guitar heros like a Eddie Van Halen or a Jimi Hendrix? Light rock tends to have more female fans than regular rock or heavy metal. Light rock is perceived as soft, like the stereotype for women. Hard rock has a more macho vibe, so the guys gravitate to it, and not to light rock or pop. Women acts aren't seen as macho or having testosterone, and if they do, then they're considered butch or lesbian, so that's probably why few were on rock radio. I think that's why many fans of rock acts who originally had a hard sound, later criticized and put down the same groups as "selling out" if they later had a "softer" or pop sound, such as Genesis, REO Speedwagon, Yes, Eric Clapton, Santana, Metallica, Jefferson Airplane/Starship, Van Hagar, etc. In The Beatles, John Lennon was seen as the cool rocker, and Paul McCartney was the one who wrote pop tunes.

You can take a black guy to Nashville from right out of the cotton fields with bib overalls, and they will call him R&B. You can take a white guy in a pin-stripe suit who’s never seen a cotton field, and they will call him country. ~ O. B. McClinton
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