I just love the way he speaks. I can listen to him all day if I wanted to. Still keeping the dreads intact at 51 I see.

interesting read. glad i pressed passed the initial Zooathalon stuff Didn't know he and MJ were beefed out like that. Wonder how true all of that is, sometimes perception can distort reality. he's quite the character. Donny Osmond, really? I just may dig for something post Wild Card

Sananda Maitreya Talks Music, Life, and Spirituality

I would have challenged him, kept my foot in his ass, and dared and invited him to challenge me, all in the interest of the best that we could have been and the benefit it might have been to the industry and its fans and employees. History will show that despite his spectacular status well earned and deserved, avoiding and helping to nullify the fact of my existence did neither of us any great favors. Bear in mind that Sony was scared shitless of myself and Master Jackson being close. Then again, so was the F.B.I. & the C.I.A. Particularly African American talent is watched and scrutinized carefully that they not put their minds together towards anything not on the system's agenda, lest they inspire greater discussion and participation in the body politic among those regarded as their "People".

Beautifulstarr123 said:

Beautifulstarr123 said:

Sananda Maitreya Talks Music, Life, and Spirituality

I would have challenged him, kept my foot in his ass, and dared and invited him to challenge me, all in the interest of the best that we could have been and the benefit it might have been to the industry and its fans and employees. History will show that despite his spectacular status well earned and deserved, avoiding and helping to nullify the fact of my existence did neither of us any great favors. Bear in mind that Sony was scared shitless of myself and Master Jackson being close. Then again, so was the F.B.I. & the C.I.A. Particularly African American talent is watched and scrutinized carefully that they not put their minds together towards anything not on the system's agenda, lest they inspire greater discussion and participation in the body politic among those regarded as their "People".

I am trying to figure out what this all means.

That's the part where he lost me. I was mmhmm when he discussed how MJ possibly sabotage his shit but then when he got to this, I made a Scooby Doo sound...

Timmy84 said:

I just love the way he speaks. I can listen to him all day if I wanted to. Still keeping the dreads intact at 51 I see.

I don't think I'd last 2 minutes listening to his annoying drivel...everything about his persona screams artsy-fartsy to me.

Timmy84 said:

Beautifulstarr123 said:

I am trying to figure out what this all means.

That's the part where he lost me. I was mmhmm when he discussed how MJ possibly sabotage his shit but then when he got to this, I made a Scooby Doo sound...

He's actually not difficult to understand...it's just that he always tries too damn hard to seem like he's sooo profound that it comes off sounding like,

babynoz said:

Timmy84 said:

That's the part where he lost me. I was mmhmm when he discussed how MJ possibly sabotage his shit but then when he got to this, I made a Scooby Doo sound...

He's actually not difficult to understand...it's just that he always tries too damn hard to seem like he's sooo profound that it comes off sounding like,

I know but on that part, I was like "OK, I think I know what you're trying to say but WHAT are you saying?"

My man, Terence (Spoken like Denzel in American Gangster). I know, I know his name is Sananda now but his momma named him Terence so, I'mma call him Terence.

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Good to see a new article on him. His absence from the American musical landscape his sorely missing. True, there's this thing called the internet but I believe he purposely avoided promoting his new stuff in the States like the plague. Even the article is from Huffington Post Canada.

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Musicslave said:

I know, I know his name is Sananda now but his momma named him Terence so, I'mma call him Terence.

What about Cassius Clay Jr., Richard Starkey, Marion Morrison, Jerome Horwitz, Michael King, Sigmund Jackson, Archibald Leach, David Jones (Bowie), Margarita Cansino, Daryl Hohl, Stevland Judkins (Hardaway/Morris), Anna Mae Bullock, Laurence Tureaud, Peter Thorkelson, Norma Mortenson, John Bongiovi, most rappers, and many others who either legally changed their names or use stage names?

MickyDolenz said:

Musicslave said:

I know, I know his name is Sananda now but his momma named him Terence so, I'mma call him Terence.

What about Cassius Clay Jr., Richard Starkey, Marion Morrison, Jerome Horwitz, Michael King, Sigmund Jackson, Archibald Leach, David Jones (Bowie), Margarita Cansino, Daryl Hohl, Stevland Judkins (Hardaway/Morris), Anna Mae Bullock, Laurence Tureaud, Peter Thorkelson, Norma Mortenson, John Bongiovi, most rappers, and many others who either legally changed their names or use stage names?

I feel ya....but I was just joking Referencing Eddie Murphy's late 80's hit movie, "Coming to America."

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But since you went there, Stevie's original last name always left me wondering. Was it originally Judkins not Hardaway or Morris? Maybe you can help jog my memory.

Timmy84 said:

babynoz said:

He's actually not difficult to understand...it's just that he always tries too damn hard to seem like he's sooo profound that it comes off sounding like,

I know but on that part, I was like "OK, I think I know what you're trying to say but WHAT are you saying?"

Same here And he's 51!

Musicslave said:

MickyDolenz said:

What about Cassius Clay Jr., Richard Starkey, Marion Morrison, Jerome Horwitz, Michael King, Sigmund Jackson, Archibald Leach, David Jones (Bowie), Margarita Cansino, Daryl Hohl, Stevland Judkins (Hardaway/Morris), Anna Mae Bullock, Laurence Tureaud, Peter Thorkelson, Norma Mortenson, John Bongiovi, most rappers, and many others who either legally changed their names or use stage names?

I feel ya....but I was just joking Referencing Eddie Murphy's late 80's hit movie, "Coming to America."

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But since you went there, Stevie's original last name always left me wondering. Was it originally Judkins not Hardaway or Morris? Maybe you can help jog my memory.

I'm sorry but you know how I jump in to conversations. But it's stated his birth name is Stevland (or Steveland?) Judkins. His biological father, someone he was not close to at all, had that last name (I think his name was Calvin Judkins). Lula Mae renamed him Stevland/Steveland Morris. "Morris" was a family friend's last name but I don't know if it's his legal name or not. It might be since all of his children acquire the Morris last name.

Timmy84 said:

Musicslave said:

I feel ya....but I was just joking Referencing Eddie Murphy's late 80's hit movie, "Coming to America."

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But since you went there, Stevie's original last name always left me wondering. Was it originally Judkins not Hardaway or Morris? Maybe you can help jog my memory.

I'm sorry but you know how I jump in to conversations. But it's stated his birth name is Stevland (or Steveland?) Judkins. His biological father, someone he was not close to at all, had that last name (I think his name was Calvin Judkins). Lula Mae renamed him Stevland/Steveland Morris. "Morris" was a family friend's last name but I don't know if it's his legal name or not. It might be since all of his children acquire the Morris last name.

Hardaway was his mother maiden name right? Lula Mae Hardaway... Still waitin on that tribute record dedicated to his mom, "The Gosepel According to Lula Mae"... Don't worry, I'm not holding my breath. I know very well how Stevie is.

babynoz said:

Timmy84 said:

That's the part where he lost me. I was mmhmm when he discussed how MJ possibly sabotage his shit but then when he got to this, I made a Scooby Doo sound...

He's actually not difficult to understand...it's just that he always tries too damn hard to seem like he's sooo profound that it comes off sounding like,

I sometimes wonder if he really is that full of shit or if he's just amusing himself in these interviews/newsletters - and it's kind of a little in-joke that only he's in on. Or maybe it's kind of a mask to avoid giving away too much personal info about himself - I don't know. The frustrating thing is, I would actually be interested in what he has to say about making music and how he runs his career these days, etc, but I find it too tiring to wade through all this florid rambling, trying to find the point!

Bless. I'm still fond of him, though.

deebee said:

babynoz said:

He's actually not difficult to understand...it's just that he always tries too damn hard to seem like he's sooo profound that it comes off sounding like,

I sometimes wonder if he really is that full of shit or if he's just amusing himself in these interviews/newsletters - and it's kind of a little in-joke that only he's in on. Or maybe it's kind of a mask to avoid giving away too much personal info about himself - I don't know. The frustrating thing is, I would actually be interested in what he has to say about making music and how he runs his career these days, etc, but I find it too tiring to wade through all this florid rambling, trying to find the point!

Bless. I'm still fond of him, though.

He's probably doing this to fuck with people.

Musicslave said:

Timmy84 said:

I'm sorry but you know how I jump in to conversations. But it's stated his birth name is Stevland (or Steveland?) Judkins. His biological father, someone he was not close to at all, had that last name (I think his name was Calvin Judkins). Lula Mae renamed him Stevland/Steveland Morris. "Morris" was a family friend's last name but I don't know if it's his legal name or not. It might be since all of his children acquire the Morris last name.

Hardaway was his mother maiden name right? Lula Mae Hardaway... Still waitin on that tribute record dedicated to his mom, "The Gosepel According to Lula Mae"... Don't worry, I'm not holding my breath. I know very well how Stevie is.

Yep that was her (and from what I can tell after divorcing Stevie's dad, remained) maiden name. As for the album, I know Stevie took advice from Marvin about not releasing an album every five years but this shit is fucking ridiculous!

scorp84 said:

Lol and I thought Prince was bad, at times. Booked on phonics-sounding mofo.

Prince ain't got nothin' on this clown. His head is so far up his "you know what" that he could do his own colonoscopy.

babynoz said:

scorp84 said:

Lol and I thought Prince was bad, at times. Booked on phonics-sounding mofo.

Prince ain't got nothin' on this clown. His head is so far up his "you know what" that he could do his own colonoscopy.

Least Mr. Nelson makes sense with what he's saying 85% of the time.

Timmy84 said:

deebee said:

I sometimes wonder if he really is that full of shit or if he's just amusing himself in these interviews/newsletters - and it's kind of a little in-joke that only he's in on. Or maybe it's kind of a mask to avoid giving away too much personal info about himself - I don't know. The frustrating thing is, I would actually be interested in what he has to say about making music and how he runs his career these days, etc, but I find it too tiring to wade through all this florid rambling, trying to find the point!

Bless. I'm still fond of him, though.

He's probably doing this to fuck with people.

Nah...he really believes his pretense makes him sound "deep",

Dude should stick to what he's pretty good at...music.

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babynoz said:

Timmy84 said:

He's probably doing this to fuck with people.

Nah...he really believes his pretense makes him sound "deep",

Heh...that could be true.

I remember reading his interviews from 1987-1989, dude was so far up his butt then. The negro actually thought his shit was better than the Beatles lmao least he could sing though. I remember Rob Pilatus saying that same old bullshit. And then... well you know.



By the way RIP Rob... what a sad life.

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Timmy84 said:

babynoz said:

Nah...he really believes his pretense makes him sound "deep",

Heh...that could be true.

I remember reading his interviews from 1987-1989, dude was so far up his butt then. The negro actually thought his shit was better than the Beatles lmao least he could sing though. I remember Rob Pilatus saying that same old bullshit. And then... well you know.



By the way RIP Rob... what a sad life.

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Dude said a whole lot about nothing.

I'm with babynoz when he believes his pretense makes him sound deep.

babynoz said:

Timmy84 said:

Heh...that could be true.

I remember reading his interviews from 1987-1989, dude was so far up his butt then. The negro actually thought his shit was better than the Beatles lmao least he could sing though. I remember Rob Pilatus saying that same old bullshit. And then... well you know.



By the way RIP Rob... what a sad life.

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Yeah I saw a quote from Rob saying they were better than the Beatles, Dylan and, I believe, the Beach Boys. I almost had to rub my eyes twice to make sure I wasn't seeing things in my imagination! Who told him to say that? Frank Farian!? Jesus lol

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Timmy84 said:

babynoz said:

Yeah I saw a quote from Rob saying they were better than the Beatles, Dylan and, I believe, the Beach Boys. I almost had to rub my eyes twice to make sure I wasn't seeing things in my imagination! Who told him to say that? Frank Farian!? Jesus lol

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It was dem drugs, that's what.

babynoz said:

Timmy84 said:

Yeah I saw a quote from Rob saying they were better than the Beatles, Dylan and, I believe, the Beach Boys. I almost had to rub my eyes twice to make sure I wasn't seeing things in my imagination! Who told him to say that? Frank Farian!? Jesus lol

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It was dem drugs, that's what.

This was my favourite part:

He (MJ) was truly, though a part of a tradition, one of a kind, and never to be seen again. And neither do we deserve to see his kind again.

I wish Sananda would one day start collaborating with other musicians again. His guitar, bass and drum playing don't do justice to his great vocals.