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Thread started 10/01/13 4:40pm

musicjunky318

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Charlamagne: Kanye's a Walking Contradiction Now

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Reply #1 posted 10/01/13 5:05pm

Timmy84

He's right. The night Kimmel aired out Kanye's tweets, they had a brief commercial airing his tour dates for "Yeezus". He's hoodwinking people and folks on Twitter are stupid to believe that that "beef" is "real". He's making more money making a fool out of himself and most keep on buying into it, least for the first week (see Yeezus' first week sales and then the drop off afterwards).

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Reply #2 posted 10/01/13 7:11pm

Gunsnhalen

I love Yeezus but this is 10000000% true.

Pistols sounded like "Fuck off," wheras The Clash sounded like "Fuck Off, but here's why.."- Thedigitialgardener

All music is shit music and no music is real- gunsnhalen

Datdonkeydick- Asherfierce

Gary Hunts Album Isn't That Good- Soulalive
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Reply #3 posted 10/01/13 8:21pm

ABeautifulOne

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haven't watched the video but I find myself saying this lately as well. from him starting the whole Donda thing and claiming it was to make a better world yet he's selling plain ass t shirts and jeans for hundreds of dollars. I don't understand. This is coming from a huge fan of him and his art.

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Reply #4 posted 10/02/13 8:33am

MadamGoodnight

Preach! clapping

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Reply #5 posted 10/02/13 8:53am

Giovanni777

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That's what's happening, right there.

I love the part where they're talking about the contradiction, and the interviewer brings up U2 as an example of a big act with no corporate sponsorships, and Charlemagne cuts him off and says, "What about PRINCE??". That was perfect.

In fact, his comments about Prince could've easily qualified this post as being in the Prince section. Nice find.

~G.

[Edited 10/2/13 8:55am]

"He's a musician's musician..."
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Reply #6 posted 10/02/13 9:31am

TonyVanDam

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I've seen the clip weeks ago. Charlamagne was right then and he is still correct ever today. Everyone that is within Jay-Z's Roc Nation click are a bunch of liars and walking contradictions.

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Reply #7 posted 10/02/13 10:23am

Cinny

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No one can do what Prince does, haha.

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Reply #8 posted 10/02/13 10:34am

Timmy84

TonyVanDam said:

I've seen the clip weeks ago. Charlamagne was right then and he is still correct ever today. Everyone that is within Jay-Z's Roc Nation click are a bunch of liars and walking contradictions.

This is why when I listened to that album, I laughed. He's trying too hard to be serious and you can tell his music is very calculated versus his very first album. In fact I argue he got more commercial after his second album and never really looked back. He had already sold his soul in a way after The College Dropout came out. I think that was the only period in which he appeared hungry and was determined not to sell out but his desire for acceptance, popularity and a powerful reputation eventually overwhelmed the talent he did have to turn him into the person he is now.

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Reply #9 posted 10/02/13 11:33am

TonyVanDam

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Timmy84 said:

TonyVanDam said:

I've seen the clip weeks ago. Charlamagne was right then and he is still correct ever today. Everyone that is within Jay-Z's Roc Nation click are a bunch of liars and walking contradictions.

This is why when I listened to that album, I laughed. He's trying too hard to be serious and you can tell his music is very calculated versus his very first album. In fact I argue he got more commercial after his second album and never really looked back. He had already sold his soul in a way after The College Dropout came out. I think that was the only period in which he appeared hungry and was determined not to sell out but his desire for acceptance, popularity and a powerful reputation eventually overwhelmed the talent he did have to turn him into the person he is now.

The College Dropout & Late Registration is THE real Kanye, while everything else beginning with Graduation is basically everything the industry wanted Kanye to be all along.

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Reply #10 posted 10/02/13 1:07pm

Timmy84

TonyVanDam said:

Timmy84 said:

This is why when I listened to that album, I laughed. He's trying too hard to be serious and you can tell his music is very calculated versus his very first album. In fact I argue he got more commercial after his second album and never really looked back. He had already sold his soul in a way after The College Dropout came out. I think that was the only period in which he appeared hungry and was determined not to sell out but his desire for acceptance, popularity and a powerful reputation eventually overwhelmed the talent he did have to turn him into the person he is now.

The College Dropout & Late Registration is THE real Kanye, while everything else beginning with Graduation is basically everything the industry wanted Kanye to be all along.

I did say it possibly began after his second album but was more apparent afterwards.

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Reply #11 posted 10/02/13 1:12pm

CynicKill

"Fantasy" is a good album though.

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Reply #12 posted 10/04/13 8:21am

Musicslave

TonyVanDam said:

Timmy84 said:

This is why when I listened to that album, I laughed. He's trying too hard to be serious and you can tell his music is very calculated versus his very first album. In fact I argue he got more commercial after his second album and never really looked back. He had already sold his soul in a way after The College Dropout came out. I think that was the only period in which he appeared hungry and was determined not to sell out but his desire for acceptance, popularity and a powerful reputation eventually overwhelmed the talent he did have to turn him into the person he is now.

The College Dropout & Late Registration is THE real Kanye, while everything else beginning with Graduation is basically everything the industry wanted Kanye to be all along.

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Reply #13 posted 10/04/13 8:26am

coltrane3

TonyVanDam said:

Timmy84 said:

This is why when I listened to that album, I laughed. He's trying too hard to be serious and you can tell his music is very calculated versus his very first album. In fact I argue he got more commercial after his second album and never really looked back. He had already sold his soul in a way after The College Dropout came out. I think that was the only period in which he appeared hungry and was determined not to sell out but his desire for acceptance, popularity and a powerful reputation eventually overwhelmed the talent he did have to turn him into the person he is now.

The College Dropout & Late Registration is THE real Kanye, while everything else beginning with Graduation is basically everything the industry wanted Kanye to be all along.

It's all the "real" Kanye.

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Reply #14 posted 10/04/13 9:39am

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Charlamange has a point but its almost moot just because its coming from him. This dude hates/is jealous of EVERYBODY. He has something negative to say about everybody. He's one of the biggest haters in radio. Right or wrong, I have to question the motives behind everything he says.

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Reply #15 posted 10/04/13 9:54am

Musicslave

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Charlamange has a point but its almost moot just because its coming from him. This dude hates/is jealous of EVERYBODY. He has something negative to say about everybody. He's one of the biggest haters in radio. Right or wrong, I have to question the motives behind everything he says.

He's probably following the blueprint of his old bosslady, Wendy Williams. Oh and Howard Stern.

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Reply #16 posted 10/04/13 10:27am

Timmy84

He might have but that's not to say he's wrong about Kanye. I wouldn't totally dismiss it.

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Reply #17 posted 10/04/13 8:18pm

CynicKill

BlaqueKnight said:

Charlamange has a point but its almost moot just because its coming from him. This dude hates/is jealous of EVERYBODY. He has something negative to say about everybody. He's one of the biggest haters in radio. Right or wrong, I have to question the motives behind everything he says.

I have yet to watch this video because of this point right here. I'm sure from responses that he's probably made some lucid observations (it's bound to happen even to the worst of us) but this guy is straight hater 99% of the time. Shock jock shenanigans. All I can say about Kanye is that he seems to be in rare form at the moment. He can't help himself. He's a media whore who needs to make headlines just so he can hear his name and see his face ad nauseum. I hope he can cope when he eventually falls off.

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Reply #18 posted 10/05/13 9:29am

TonyVanDam

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BlaqueKnight said:

Charlamange has a point but its almost moot just because its coming from him. This dude hates/is jealous of EVERYBODY. He has something negative to say about everybody. He's one of the biggest haters in radio. Right or wrong, I have to question the motives behind everything he says.

I see someone has been watching too much Vlad TV. hmmm lol

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Reply #19 posted 10/05/13 4:50pm

EddieC

Giovanni777 said:

That's what's happening, right there.

I love the part where they're talking about the contradiction, and the interviewer brings up U2 as an example of a big act with no corporate sponsorships, and Charlemagne cuts him off and says, "What about PRINCE??". That was perfect.

In fact, his comments about Prince could've easily qualified this post as being in the Prince section. Nice find.

~G.

[Edited 10/2/13 8:55am]

No corporate sponsorships, and he played La Crosse--take that U2!!

No respect. None. shake

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Reply #20 posted 10/05/13 4:52pm

Timmy84

EddieC said:

Giovanni777 said:

That's what's happening, right there.

I love the part where they're talking about the contradiction, and the interviewer brings up U2 as an example of a big act with no corporate sponsorships, and Charlemagne cuts him off and says, "What about PRINCE??". That was perfect.

In fact, his comments about Prince could've easily qualified this post as being in the Prince section. Nice find.

~G.

[Edited 10/2/13 8:55am]

No corporate sponsorships, and he played La Crosse--take that U2!!

No respect. None. shake

Lol the interviewer (possibly Vlad himself) bringing up U2 lost a lot of points for even mentioning that.

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