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Thread started 08/15/13 8:52pm

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Robin Thicke Sues to Protect 'Blurred Lines' from Marvin Gaye's Family

From The Hollywood Reporter:

Thicke, Pharrell Williams and Clifford Harris, Jr. claim they were threatened by both Gaye's family and Funkadelic, each asserting that the summer hit wasn't original.

In order to shield "Blurred Lines," the hottest hit of the summer, Robin Thicke, Pharrell Williams and Clifford Harris, Jr. are going to court.

A lawsuit was filed Thursday in California federal court by the trio against Marvin Gaye's family and Bridgeport Music, which owns some of Funkadelic's compositions. At issue are complaints about similarities between "Blurred Lines" and at least two songs.

According to the suit, a copy of which was obtained by The Hollywood Reporter, "Plaintiffs, who have the utmost respect for and admiration of Marvin Gaye, Funkadelic and their musical legacies, reluctantly file this action in the face of multiple adverse claims from alleged successors in interest to those artists. Defendants continue to insist that plaintiffs' massively successful composition, 'Blurred Lines,' copies 'their' compositions."

Read the lawsuit here.

The suit claims the Gaye family is alleging that "Blurred Lines" and Gaye's "Got to Give It Up" "feel" or "sound" the same, and that the "Gaye defendants are claiming ownership of an entire genre, as opposed to a specific work."

As for Funkadelic, there's said to be claimed similarity between Thicke's hit and Funakedlic's "Sexy Ways."

"But there are no similarities between plaintiffs' composition and those the claimants allege they own, other than commonplace musical elements," states the lawsuit. "Plaintiffs created a hit and did it without copying anyone else's composition."

A New York TImes critic has noted that "Blurred Lines" is "influenced heavily" by Gaye’s “Got to Give It Up,” but the lawsuit makes the point that "being reminiscent of a 'sound' is not copyright infringement. The intent in producing 'Blurred Lines' was to evoke an era."

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The Gayes and Bridgeport are said to be threatening litigation should the plaintiffs not pay a monetary settlement. Rather than wait for such a lawsuit to proceed, the plaintiffs are going to court to determine the parties' respective rights and obligations.

In seeking a judgment, Thicke, Williams and Harris Jr. are not only looking for a declaration that their song doesn't violate the defendants' rights by copying their songs, but also that the "Gayes do not have an interest in the copyright to the composition 'Got To Give It Up' sufficient to confer standing on them to pursue claims of infringement of that composition."

The plaintiffs are represented by Howard King and Stephen Rothschild of King, Holmes, Paterno & Berliner.

THR has reached out to the defendants for comment and update with a response.

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Reply #1 posted 08/15/13 9:25pm

Fury

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Blurred lines is GTGIU sped up
End of story
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Reply #2 posted 08/15/13 9:55pm

SoulAlive

Lots of today's songs have similiar chords to older songs,but unless they sampled the Marvin Gaye song directly,I don't think there's a case here.

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Reply #3 posted 08/16/13 6:31am

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"Gaye defendants are claiming ownership of an entire genre, as opposed to a specific work." Really gtfoh with genre claiming.

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Reply #4 posted 08/16/13 6:47am

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spit WTF????

They know good and damn well that's the music from GTGIU!

[Warning: NSFW - luv4u]

http://www.youtube.com/wa...wT6DZCQi9k



The question is WHO wrote the music and therefore owns the copyright to it, that's not named in this lawsuit? hmmm

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Reply #5 posted 08/16/13 6:49am

Scorp

this is what happens when u try and take credit for what someone else did

he and Pharrell straight up hijacked Marvin Gaye's music and Funkadelic...

it's an all out hijack......

I'm sick of it

artists need to take time to make their own music out of their own thoughts

if he wouldn't have pulled a hijack, this would not have happened

and this is why the pop ascension movement which began to obliterate culture in 1987 has destroyed the very fabric of what making music is really supposed to be about...

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Reply #6 posted 08/16/13 6:59am

Graycap23

eek

Proactive nonsense.

They jacked the track.

NEXT.

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Reply #7 posted 08/16/13 7:10am

SeventeenDayze

As much as I want to think of this as a mere publicity stunt, I am still a bit annoyed with Thicke. This song is obviously channeling Marvin Gaye. The first time I heard this song, that's the first thing I thought of. I think Thicke is taking this too far. To sue the families of those who created this sound is pretty low. Aren't they supposed to handle all this stuff ahead of time (before the song is released)? I could have sworn I read somewhere that he had all the copyright clearances ahead of time.

Seems like Robin Thicke is going the route of a colonist on this one....show up, steal it and pretend it was yours all along.

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Reply #8 posted 08/16/13 7:17am

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So I'm assuming in the album's liner notes, they don't say the song contains a sample of "Got To Give It Up" from Marvin Gaye? I have often times seen that. Where a song was clearly sampled yet was not credited in the liner notes. If this is the case with Robin, it's not fair. The Marvin song is definately sampled so the song writers should definately be compensated for it. I'm assuming Marvin was the writer or a co-writer on "Got To Give It Up"? His estate should be compensated.

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Reply #9 posted 08/16/13 7:29am

Scorp

this is called hijacking

and that's why at teh age of 15, when this practice really began to proliferate

I've always been against the concept of sampling.....

it cheats everyone out of the process of producing authentic music and being presented with it..

this is flat out stealing...PERIOD.....

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Reply #10 posted 08/16/13 7:37am

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I don't see anything wrong with sampling because most contemporary songwriters today don't know how to write music. They can write lyrics but not music where instruments are required. So, in many cases, they are left with sampling what's already been done. But, if they choose to do that, they have to give credit where credit it due. Don't outright sample a song, pretend like it was an original idea and not note the sample in the liner notes. That's just flat out wrong and, I thought, illegal. I mean, did Robin's label think people are really that stupid???








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Reply #11 posted 08/16/13 7:38am

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SoulAlive said:

Lots of today's songs have similiar chords to older songs,but unless they sampled the Marvin Gaye song directly,I don't think there's a case here.

You don't necessary have to sample directly from the source (vinyl record, cassette tape, compact disc, or mp3 file) to be guilty of beat biting. If you play the exact notes in any scale OR play the same chord progression, then there is a possible case.

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Reply #12 posted 08/16/13 7:39am

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kitbradley said:

I don't see anything wrong with sampling because most contemporary songwriters today don't know how to write music. They can write lyrics but not music where instruments are required. So, in many cases, they are left with sampling what's already been done. But, if they choose to do that, they have to give credit where credit it due. Don't outright sample a song, pretend like it was an original idea and not note the sample in the liner notes. That's just flat out wrong and, I thought, illegal. I mean, did Robin's label think people are really that stupid???








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I wish sampling was illegal.

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Reply #13 posted 08/16/13 7:40am

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Any woman (and man) who likes this song is an utter prick in my opinion. Not only is this track hijacked and pulled together by the most uninspiring no talented ass holes, it is also totally disrespectful to women. The video alone fucked me off. These punks need to leave this industry for good.

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Reply #14 posted 08/16/13 7:41am

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kitbradley said:

I don't see anything wrong with sampling because most contemporary songwriters today don't know how to write music. They can write lyrics but not music where instruments are required. So, in many cases, they are left with sampling what's already been done. But, if they choose to do that, they have to give credit where credit it due. Don't outright sample a song, pretend like it was an original idea and not note the sample in the liner notes. That's just flat out wrong and, I thought, illegal. I mean, did Robin's label think people are really that stupid???








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Reply #15 posted 08/16/13 7:41am

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Wait so they didn't give credit? Wow.
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Reply #16 posted 08/16/13 7:48am

Scorp

kitbradley said:

I don't see anything wrong with sampling because most contemporary songwriters today don't know how to write music. They can write lyrics but not music where instruments are required. So, in many cases, they are left with sampling what's already been done. But, if they choose to do that, they have to give credit where credit it due. Don't outright sample a song, pretend like it was an original idea and not note the sample in the liner notes. That's just flat out wrong and, I thought, illegal. I mean, did Robin's label think people are really that stupid???








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u just highlighted the crux of the situation...THTAT'S THE PROBLEM

before the Pop Ascension started in 1987, most songwriters COULD write their own music, they could conceive melody, they could arrange songs from beginning to end......

but now they can't because image took precedence over talent and that's why today's artists HAVE to rely on sampling, then try and play it off like they didn't as if the people who grew up during the golden age of music wouldn't know that they did.....

the problem w/this situation is that Robin doesn't want to kick out the money for hijacking Marvin Gaye's song, so to keep from doing, knowing that he and Pharrell hijacked, he sues Marvin Gaye's own family.......

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Reply #17 posted 08/16/13 7:49am

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andykeen said:

Any woman (and man) who likes this song is an utter prick in my opinion. Not only is this track hijacked and pulled together by the most uninspiring no talented ass holes, it is also totally disrespectful to women. The video alone fucked me off. These punks need to leave this industry for good.

Honestly, I only like the song for the music (which they clearly jacked from GTGIU) and the "Hey, hey, hey" lyric. Oh shit! They'll be suing Bill Cosby next. ohgoon

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Reply #18 posted 08/16/13 7:53am

Scorp

the problem is this didn't just start in the past couple of years

thsi has been going on for 26 years........hijack after hijack

a great number of high profile artists have been hijacking for the past quarter century w/out giving credit to the people who they hijacked the music from...

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Reply #19 posted 08/16/13 7:55am

Graycap23

Scorp said:

the problem is this didn't just start in the past couple of years

thsi has been going on for 26 years........hijack after hijack

a great number of high profile artists have been hijacking for the past quarter century w/out giving credit to the people who they hijacked the music from...

But it sounds like this 1st time the hijacker is suing.

[Edited 8/16/13 7:56am]

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Reply #20 posted 08/16/13 7:59am

Scorp

Graycap23 said:

Scorp said:

the problem is this didn't just start in the past couple of years

thsi has been going on for 26 years........hijack after hijack

a great number of high profile artists have been hijacking for the past quarter century w/out giving credit to the people who they hijacked the music from...

But it sounds like this 1st time the hijacker is suing.

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lollll.....you a 100% right............hijackers seeking protecting from the law.......

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Reply #21 posted 08/16/13 8:01am

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Graycap23 said:

Scorp said:

the problem is this didn't just start in the past couple of years

thsi has been going on for 26 years........hijack after hijack

a great number of high profile artists have been hijacking for the past quarter century w/out giving credit to the people who they hijacked the music from...

But it sounds like this 1st time the hijacker is suing.

[Edited 8/16/13 7:56am]

Exactly! I fully expected a lawsuit about this matter soon but I damn sure didn't expect it to come from the hijackers! disbelief

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Reply #22 posted 08/16/13 8:39am

mjscarousal

Very disappointed in Robin. This man is really suing the Marvin Gaye family eek

He should be kissing the ground they walk on and respectfully giving them the credit since it was obviously sampled or inspired by Got To Give It Up.

I dont know what to think. Robin is cool I guess but these artists out now have no respect for the legendary artists confused This move by Thicke is straight up tacky... Im actually quite shocked.

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Reply #23 posted 08/16/13 8:44am

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edit

[Edited 8/16/13 8:44am]

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Reply #24 posted 08/16/13 8:47am

maja2405

disbelief

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Reply #25 posted 08/16/13 8:50am

Scorp

mjscarousal said:

Very disappointed in Robin. This man is really suing the Marvin Gaye family eek

He should be kissing the ground they walk on and respectfully giving them the credit since it was obviously sampled or inspired by Got To Give It Up.

I dont know what to think. Robin is cool I guess but these artists out now have no respect for the legendary artists confused This move by Thicke is straight up tacky... Im actually quite shocked.

don't be shocked

this has been the M.O. for decades...

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Reply #26 posted 08/16/13 8:51am

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There clearly isn't a sample being used in the song. That being said, there's more than enough similarity to at least make it to trial.

I'm talking about "Got to Give It Up" of course. The claim that it's similar to "Sexy Ways" is quite ludicrous. lol

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Reply #27 posted 08/16/13 8:53am

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AlexdeParis said:

There clearly isn't a sample being used in the song. That being said, there's more than enough similarity to at least make it to trial.

I'm talking about "Got to Give It Up" of course. The claim that it's similar to "Sexy Ways" is quite ludicrous. lol

Clearly?

Why do I get hearing Marvin's scream (oooohhh) thru out the entire track?

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Reply #28 posted 08/16/13 9:04am

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Graycap23 said:

AlexdeParis said:

There clearly isn't a sample being used in the song. That being said, there's more than enough similarity to at least make it to trial.

I'm talking about "Got to Give It Up" of course. The claim that it's similar to "Sexy Ways" is quite ludicrous. lol

Clearly?

Why do I get hearing Marvin's scream (oooohhh) thru out the entire track?

I've heard "Got to Give It Up" countless times and that scream doesn't sound like it comes from it at all to me. It's a nice effort, but Marvin's screams are all wilder and less controlled. I think it's the fact that it's overlayed over a similar track to GTGIU. I think it sounds much more like MJ than MG.

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Reply #29 posted 08/16/13 9:08am

SoulAlive

that scream doesn't come from Marvin Gaye....it's from Michael Jackson's "Don't Stop Til You Get Enough"...the beginning of that song,when Michael says "you make me feel like......woooooh!"

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