"As a producer, he wrote the music, he produced the song, but he didn't write the lyrics for me"

Which drives me crazy, note that Bruno can't take the credit of something he never wrote (because the ASCAP are very strict about credits), not to mention he respects Cee Lo, but in ASCAP press interview he said everything:

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What's denied? If he says the other guy wrote the music, then I don't see a denial. It's like Elton John writes the music and Bernie Taupin writes the lyrics, which means they both wrote the song.

MickyDolenz said:

What's denied? If he says the other guy wrote the music, then I don't see a denial. It's like Elton John writes the music and Bernie Taupin writes the lyrics, which means they both wrote the song.

No, he actually denied the fact that Bruno wrote "the lyrics", and Bruno actually did that... and Stern goes "He is actually getting a lot of credits for that" it's like "Hey Cee Lo go ahead and make your move, the dude doesn't deserve it"

I'm glad anyway Bruno got over ghostwriting sessions and he writes shit for himself now.

Shawy89 said:

(because the ASCAP are very strict about credits)

This is not really true. A lot of songs that are credited "Lennon/McCartney" were written separately. John's solo song Give Peace A Chance is also credited Lennon/McCartney, and Paul had nothing to do with it. There was a doo wop group called The Cadillacs that wrote some of their songs, but their manager registered the songs under her name only and she didn't write songs at all. She got the royalties and not the group.

Shawy89 said:

No, he actually denied the fact that Bruno wrote "the lyrics", and Bruno actually did that...

I don't know who wrote what. Are you saying Cee Lo didn't write at all and is just taking a credit?

I'm confused about what Cee Lo denied himself. He stated Bruno co-wrote it anyway. Who cares? How old is that song? Three years? Four years? lol

He was signed to motown at 18?

So at what age did he auditon for American Idol

Timmy84 said:

I'm confused about what Cee Lo denied himself. He stated Bruno co-wrote it anyway. Who cares? How old is that song? Three years? Four years? lol

It is a few years old, they both made money, they both are still making money.

Moving on...

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Besides your boy Bruno is making tons of money from his hits he wrote all by himself. I don't think he is crying at night over Fuck You

Y'all wanna make me look like a time waster posting random threads?

I made this topic because of one thing: Cee Lo's denial of Bruno's songwriting in his own work, who cares about the money, and what Cee Lo said is fresh & new and mostly his only interview about Fuck You, it is strange that he said Bruno never wrote the lyrics while the second video makes sure that Bruno "wrote the lyrics", so I'm not a stan here but more like a doubter, I can't make sure if Bruno did that or he took credits just like that, because I'm a fan of Cee Lo before even Bruno showed up, and that sets the bar for something.

Anyway if y'all wanna keep talking about how silly is this thread go ahead and make my day, at least it's about something controversial rather than other boring posts, Non-Prince became such a mess.

Cee-Lo ALSO wrote "Don't Cha", which was the Pussycat Dolls' BIGGEST Hit!!!!! However- it was FIRST recorded by someone named Tori Alamaze. And it sat like doo doo on the street!!!! Once PCD & Busta re-did it.......Ka-CHING!!!!!!

woogiebear said:

Cee-Lo ALSO wrote "Don't Cha", which was the Pussycat Dolls' BIGGEST Hit!!!!! However- it was FIRST recorded by someone named Tori Alamaze. And it sat like doo doo on the street!!!! Once PCD & Busta re-did it.......Ka-CHING!!!!!!

I love this many thanks for the trivia

It really takes two people to write a "Fuck You" song?

He was signed to Motown?

Was this before or after he auditioned for American Idol?

missfee said:

It really takes two people to write a "Fuck You" song?

There were actually five folks.

Bruno, Cee-Lo, some dude named Brody Brown and two co-writers from Bruno's production team, the Smeezingtons (Ari Levine and Phillip Lawrence).

I don't care who wrote it...this song has some great lines!!

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Shawy, i understand you are a very hardcore Bruno fan and even though he gets on my last nerve i respect you being a fan.

With that said.. i think Cee-Lo and Bruno should be somewhat embarrased it took 5 guys! 5 freaking guys to write Fuck You. It is a great single.. but 5 guys?

Bruno & Cee-lo have written dozens of songs by themselves... yet need 3 others for this particular song? that tells me their heart was not 100% in it anyways.

Shawy89 said:

Y'all wanna make me look like a time waster posting random threads?

I made this topic because of one thing: Cee Lo's denial of Bruno's songwriting in his own work, who cares about the money, and what Cee Lo said is fresh & new and mostly his only interview about Fuck You, it is strange that he said Bruno never wrote the lyrics while the second video makes sure that Bruno "wrote the lyrics", so I'm not a stan here but more like a doubter, I can't make sure if Bruno did that or he took credits just like that, because I'm a fan of Cee Lo before even Bruno showed up, and that sets the bar for something.

Anyway if y'all wanna keep talking about how silly is this thread go ahead and make my day, at least it's about something controversial rather than other boring posts, Non-Prince became such a mess.

I listened to the whole Stern interview and never got the impression that Cee Lo denied Bruno Mars wrote the the music to the song. It's one of the last things he says about the subject - Mars wrote the music, he wrote the lyrics.

You're getting upset because we don't see the same "denial" as you do?

Well, 5 ppl writing a song doesn't fully mean they wrote the lyrics, you participate in writing the song structure (chords and stuff) you're credited... and that's what led me to DOUBT if Bruno wrote the song, because Stern actually is right for saying he takes much credit for it, and then Cee Lo goes no he didn't write anything for me (like, the lyrics - not the arrangements)., so I'm doubting Bruno afterall...

Gunsnhalen said:

Shawy, i understand you are a very hardcore Bruno fan and even though he gets on my last nerve i respect you being a fan.

With that said.. i think Cee-Lo and Bruno should be somewhat embarrased it took 5 guys! 5 freaking guys to write Fuck You. It is a great single.. but 5 guys?

Bruno & Cee-lo have written dozens of songs by themselves... yet need 3 others for this particular song? that tells me their heart was not 100% in it anyways.

The problem with this is you can have two people who actually wrote the song. In this sense, Cee-Lo and Bruno and then you have others who will get credit for "changing this part or changing that part".

I think that was true as far as Ari, Phillip and Brody were concerned and since Bruno works with Ari and Phillip (and probably Brody), he added them. Which is why I wish these acts discuss how these songs came together and what went on behind the scenes. This mystery on how eight people can be credited on a song that's not a sample is ridiculous.

Shawy89 said:

Well, 5 ppl writing a song doesn't fully mean they wrote the lyrics, you participate in writing the song structure (chords and stuff) you're credited... and that's what led me to DOUBT if Bruno wrote the song, because Stern actually is right for saying he takes much credit for it, and then Cee Lo goes no he didn't write anything for me (like, the lyrics - not the arrangements)., so I'm doubting Bruno afterall...

Like I said, it's possible a few came up with edits and say "no it needs to go that way" and Bruno/Ceelo going "Oh OK." So Ceelo wrote the lyrics and Bruno the music and the others credited for edits. There.

Timmy84 said:

Gunsnhalen said:

Shawy, i understand you are a very hardcore Bruno fan and even though he gets on my last nerve i respect you being a fan.

With that said.. i think Cee-Lo and Bruno should be somewhat embarrased it took 5 guys! 5 freaking guys to write Fuck You. It is a great single.. but 5 guys?

Bruno & Cee-lo have written dozens of songs by themselves... yet need 3 others for this particular song? that tells me their heart was not 100% in it anyways.

The problem with this is you can have two people who actually wrote the song. In this sense, Cee-Lo and Bruno and then you have others who will get credit for "changing this part or changing that part".

I think that was true as far as Ari, Phillip and Brody were concerned and since Bruno works with Ari and Phillip (and probably Brody), he added them. Which is why I wish these acts discuss how these songs came together and what went on behind the scenes. This mystery on how eight people can be credited on a song that's not a sample is ridiculous.

Sometimes The Smeezingtons are such a mess and I wish Bruno goes solo "as a producer", Philip co-writes and Ari is the engineer.. Bruno's the producer but since they're The Smeezingtons they should be credited as "producer".. which sucks.

This is why i HATE when too many people write one song i guess this thread actually kind of goel in gel with the ghostwriting thread i made.

I actually... feel a little meh when an artist i really like who is known for good lyrics... had help. But even worse help from more than one person!

Hell, didn't it take like 8 people to write Baby by Justin Bieber? how the hell does that even happen?

Stevie Wonder wrote, produced, and played one EVERY track on Songs In The Key Of Life. David Byrne of The Talking Heads wrote all those crazy, eccentric lyrics on his own. Hell even R. Kelly who has made some AWFUL AWFUL songs... has wrote and produced on just about every song he made for himself or other people.

So it baffles me how simple and fun pop songs need more than one writer on it.

Shawy89 said:

Timmy84 said:

The problem with this is you can have two people who actually wrote the song. In this sense, Cee-Lo and Bruno and then you have others who will get credit for "changing this part or changing that part".

I think that was true as far as Ari, Phillip and Brody were concerned and since Bruno works with Ari and Phillip (and probably Brody), he added them. Which is why I wish these acts discuss how these songs came together and what went on behind the scenes. This mystery on how eight people can be credited on a song that's not a sample is ridiculous.

Sometimes The Smeezingtons are such a mess and I wish Bruno goes solo "as a producer", Philip co-writes and Ari is the engineer.. Bruno's the producer but since they're The Smeezingtons they should be credited as "producer".. which sucks.

That makes much more sense actually

I think for Rihanna & Katy Perry cases, they just gather in the studio, drink champain and each one proposes a line, thats how it goes.. and if somebody assumed they're not actually co-writing they'd start bitchin about it.

And for ghostwriting, I mean c'mon, you can't hate every song that's not written by the artisrt, sometimes I listen to Thriller album or Bad album, half of those songs are not even written by MJ, but I can't hate him for that, yeah I feel sad that such a good songwriter as him lets other people write shit for him but his voice and all make it look so easy to bear

Timmy84 said:

This mystery on how eight people can be credited on a song that's not a sample is ridiculous.

What about this?

.

9 people

MickyDolenz said:

Timmy84 said:

This mystery on how eight people can be credited on a song that's not a sample is ridiculous.

What about this?

.

9 people

Look up the credits for the Black Eyed Peas' "Imma Be".

Or the credits of "Rock That Body" better to explain what I mean.

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Shawy89 said:

Timmy84 said:

The problem with this is you can have two people who actually wrote the song. In this sense, Cee-Lo and Bruno and then you have others who will get credit for "changing this part or changing that part".

I think that was true as far as Ari, Phillip and Brody were concerned and since Bruno works with Ari and Phillip (and probably Brody), he added them. Which is why I wish these acts discuss how these songs came together and what went on behind the scenes. This mystery on how eight people can be credited on a song that's not a sample is ridiculous.

Sometimes The Smeezingtons are such a mess and I wish Bruno goes solo "as a producer", Philip co-writes and Ari is the engineer.. Bruno's the producer but since they're The Smeezingtons they should be credited as "producer".. which sucks.

I see! I thought something was fishy...

HMD82 said: