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Reply #30 posted 09/14/13 4:26pm

MickyDolenz

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Timmy84 said:

MickyDolenz said:

You can do this with other acts like:

Paul McCartney/Beatles/Wings/Fireman/Percy Thrillington,

Phil Collins/Genesis/Brand X/Phil Collins' Big Band/Flaming Youth,

Wham!/George Michael,

Commodores/Lionel Richie,

or Kenny Rogers/First Edition. Although I don't think Flaming Youth & Brand X had any hits. razz

LOL or John Lennon/Beatles, George Harrison/Beatles, Ringo Starr/Beatles. The Beatles got like a billion hits compared to everyone else. falloff

You forgot the Traveling Wilburys. razz Does the hits from all of the members from Ringo's All Star Bands count? It's like the '6 Degrees of Kevin Bacon'. lol

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Reply #31 posted 09/14/13 6:19pm

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Janet has more entries than Michael? It's just a strange list to me.

Billboard: The 55th anniversary edition of the Hot 100 All-Time Top Songs and Artists charts are based on actual performance on the weekly Billboard Hot 100, since the chart’s inception in August 1958 through the July 27, 2013 rankings. Songs are ranked based on an inverse point system, with weeks at No. 1 earning the greatest value and weeks at No. 100 earning the least. Due to changes in chart methodology over the Hot 100's 55 years (i.e., the inclusion of Nielsen Entertainment airplay monitoring and point-of-sales tracking and the recent inclusion of streaming data, among earlier modifications), certain eras are weighted differently to account for chart turnover rates over various periods.

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Reply #32 posted 09/14/13 6:29pm

JanetSerbia

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mjscarousal said:

^ I remember them saying he was the only rapper with the most number ones or Top 10's lol some bs like that lol thats why I cant take billboard seriously anymore

Thats because its easy to chart and to get number ones on the Billboards today. I really dont care about Billboard or take them seriously because their criteria changes every year which makes what they are looking for confusing. Janet has more "entries" than Michael because she continued to make music and release singles while Michael semi retired from music. Michael's last real studio album was Invincible (2001) and he didnt release a real album in almost a decade. Janet continued to release three more albums and a few singles this past decade but none of those singles made the Top 10. Her last Hot 100 Top 10 was All 4 You (2001).

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With that being said I was wrong Janet has ONE more Top 10 hot 100 entry above Michael as a solo act but most of MJs number one's charted much longer...

However... if you combine his Jackson 5/Jacksons chart positions he technically does have more lol

"most of MJs number one's charted much longer"

Reciepts?

This can't be true since MJ has MORE Number One Hits (3 to be exact) and MORE Top 10 Hits (1 to be exact) and yet he is behind Janet.

But lets take a closer look:

Michael Jackson:

First No1: Ben. Atop the chart 1 week

Second No1: Don't Stop Til You Get Enough 1 week

Third No1: Rock With You 3 weeks

Fourth No1: Billie Jean 7 weeks

Fifth No1: Beat It 3 weeks

Sixth No1: I Just Can't Stop Loving You 1 week

Seventh No1: Bad 2 weeks

Eighth No1: The Way You Make Me Feel 1 week

Ninth No1: Man In The Mirror 2 weeks

Tenth No1: Dirty Diana 1 week

Eleventh No1: Black Or White 7 weeks

Twelth No1: You Are Not Alone 1 week


Thirteenth No1: Say Say Say 6 weeks

That's a total of 36 weeks atop the chart for 13 songs.

If you don't include collaborations thats 30 weeks for 12 songs.

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Janet Jackson:

First No1: When I Think Of You 2 weeks

Second No1: Miss You Much 4 weeks

Third No1: Escapade 3 weeks

Fourth No1: Black Cat 1 week

Fifth No1: Love Will Never Do 1 week

Sixth No1: That's The Way Love Goes 8 weeks
Seventh No1: Again 2 weeks

Eigth No1: Together Again 2 weeks

Ninth No1: Doesn't Really Matter 3 weeks

Tenth No1: All For you 7 weeks

That's a total of 33 weeks atop the chart for 10 songs

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Thus, Janet's Number One songs actually stayed atop the chart LONGER than Michael's.

I find it hilarious that you simply can't let a great, talented, and deserving artist be congratulated and celebrated without negative comments and comparisons.

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[Edited 9/14/13 6:06am]

Well, yes.

And this is how Billboard look at it.

Billboard:

10 artists who spent the most weeks at No. 1 on the Hot 100


Mariah Carey 79

The Beatles 59

Boyz II Men 50

Usher 47

Rihanna 47

Michael Jackson 37

Beyonce 36

Elton John 34

Janet Jackson 33

Madonna 32


Of those 10 artists to spend the most weeks at No. 1 on the Hot 100, which have averaged the longest stays on top? The first-ever WIN average ranking among those acts stands as follows:

WIN average, artist (weeks at No. 1/total No. 1s)


10, Boyz II Men (50/5)
7.2, Beyonce (36/5)
5.2, Usher (47/9)
4.4, Mariah Carey (79/18)
3.9, Rihanna (47/12)
3.8, Elton John (34/9)
3.3, Janet Jackson (33/10)
2.95, the Beatles (59/20)
2.85, Michael Jackson (37/13)
2.7, Madonna (32/12)

Sopurce: http://www.billboard.com/...00-history

So in that case, it turnes out that JANET is a bigger winner than both, MJ and Madonna.

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Reply #33 posted 09/16/13 12:41am

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JanetSerbia said:

Madonna has much more Top 5 / Top 10 hits than Mariah. That's why.

So is it the same situation with Olivia newton John? She's at #20 beating out Aretha, Gladys and the KING of the Pop ballads Richard Marx. Olivia had many songs to make the top 10 Charts here in the USA?

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Reply #34 posted 09/16/13 2:53pm

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Chancellor said:

JanetSerbia said:

Madonna has much more Top 5 / Top 10 hits than Mariah. That's why.

So is it the same situation with Olivia newton John? She's at #20 beating out Aretha, Gladys and the KING of the Pop ballads Richard Marx. Olivia had many songs to make the top 10 Charts here in the USA?

WIKI: She is a four-time Grammy award winner who has amassed five No. 1 and ten other Top Ten Billboard Hot 100 singles and two No. 1 Billboard 200 solo albums. Eleven of her singles (including two platinum) and 14 of her albums (including two platinum and four double platinum) have been certified gold by the RIAA. Her music has been successful in multiple genres including pop, country and adult contemporary and has sold an estimated over 100 million records worldwide

Her single "Phisical" spent 10 weeks at the top. That's pretty impressive.

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Reply #35 posted 09/16/13 11:05pm

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JanetSerbia said:

five No. 1 and ten other Top Ten Billboard Hot 100 singles and two No. 1 Billboard 200 solo albums.

So Olivia charted HIGHER than Lionel Richie & B-Girl because she has 5 #1 songs, 10 "Top 10 singles" & 2 #1 Albums...I thought Mr. Richie had better Solo success on the Charts than that..LOL....Wow...

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Reply #36 posted 09/17/13 7:29am

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Both Michael and Mariah had numerous singles that missed the top 10 on the Hot 100. Doesn't take anything from their respective legacies, but by my count, MJ missed the Hot 100 at least 8 times between 1987 and 2001. Mariah is a little bit trickier, because her record label would manipulate the charts. If a single looked like it wouldn't be a top 10 (or even #1 hit), they would simply withold a physical release. Regardless, even during her early chart smashing days, "Anytime You Need a Friend" missed the top 10, as did later releases as "Bye Bye" and "Through the Rain".

mjscarousal said:

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The lowest Michael peaked was at 10 and I believe the same with Mariah and there are people higher than them on this list...

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Reply #37 posted 09/17/13 7:39am

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I congratulate the first 5 on that list...4 the rest I'd say: keep tryin'!

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Reply #38 posted 09/17/13 7:53am

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She's cool.

Strange how she doesn't get the recongnition she deserves.

And I like her name.

probably cause she cant sing

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Reply #39 posted 09/17/13 8:26am

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luvsexy4all said:

dJJ said:

She's cool.

Strange how she doesn't get the recongnition she deserves.

And I like her name.

probably cause she cant sing

Madonna can? And Janet sing better than SADE, she can hit low and high notes while Sade is snging the one same tone all the time and getting a recognition for that only because she don't dance, don't have fantastic videos and is not controversial.

But JANET will get the recognition she deserves, sooner or later. They still see her as a competitive artist, that's the problem.

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Reply #40 posted 09/17/13 8:44am

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I'm gonna congratulate the Beatles instead biggrin
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Reply #41 posted 09/17/13 8:57am

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NDRU said:

I'm gonna congratulate the Beatles instead biggrin

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Reply #42 posted 09/17/13 9:03am

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JanetSerbia said:

don't have fantastic videos

Videos don't have anything to do with music. They're just a commercial for a record. Music has existed for hundreds of years without them.

You can take a black guy to Nashville from right out of the cotton fields with bib overalls, and they will call him R&B. You can take a white guy in a pin-stripe suit who’s never seen a cotton field, and they will call him country. ~ O. B. McClinton
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Reply #43 posted 09/17/13 9:06am

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JanetSerbia said:

luvsexy4all said:

probably cause she cant sing

Madonna can? And Janet sing better than SADE, she can hit low and high notes while Sade is snging the one same tone all the time and getting a recognition for that only because she don't dance, don't have fantastic videos and is not controversial.

But JANET will get the recognition she deserves, sooner or later. They still see her as a competitive artist, that's the problem.

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Sade tends to go her own way and every video, concert, etc has the same feel. It may not be "good" but her presence and style is impeccable. A lot of Janet's videos and shows (after All For You) don't compare to the artistry that Sade did. Look at her lastest DVD of the Bring Me Home tour and tell me if the show was not better than either of Janet's last 2 tours. I love Janet, but the people she's worked with the last few years are sub par compared to Tina Landon or Anthony (who did Rhythm Nation).

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Reply #44 posted 09/17/13 12:25pm

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Axchi696 said:

Both Michael and Mariah had numerous singles that missed the top 10 on the Hot 100. Doesn't take anything from their respective legacies, but by my count, MJ missed the Hot 100 at least 8 times between 1987 and 2001. Mariah is a little bit trickier, because her record label would manipulate the charts. If a single looked like it wouldn't be a top 10 (or even #1 hit), they would simply withold a physical release. Regardless, even during her early chart smashing days, "Anytime You Need a Friend" missed the top 10, as did later releases as "Bye Bye" and "Through the Rain".

mjscarousal said:

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The lowest Michael peaked was at 10 and I believe the same with Mariah and there are people higher than them on this list...

[Edited 9/13/13 13:01pm]

MICHAEL JACKSON'S They Don't Crae About Us peaked at No. 30, Blood On The Dancefloor peaked at number 42, Stranger In Moscow peaked at 91, and so on.

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Reply #45 posted 09/17/13 4:24pm

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JanetSerbia said:

luvsexy4all said:

probably cause she cant sing

Madonna can? And Janet sing better than SADE, she can hit low and high notes while Sade is snging the one same tone all the time and getting a recognition for that only because she don't dance, don't have fantastic videos and is not controversial.

But JANET will get the recognition she deserves, sooner or later. They still see her as a competitive artist, that's the problem.

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This. There is no competition. The things she did in her career chart-wise and image-wise helped to set a precedent for the current crop of pop stars. She's not in competition with them--they look up to her.

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Reply #46 posted 09/17/13 4:28pm

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NDRU said:

I'm gonna congratulate the Beatles instead biggrin

Hi! 'Bye!

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Reply #47 posted 09/23/13 1:06am

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Yayyyy Janet wink!! Miss Jackson if you nasty cool.
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Reply #48 posted 09/23/13 4:24pm

alphastreet

Not sure about the entire reason, but I was also aware she spent more weeks on the Billboard charts overall, and that's why she's a singles artists. Though MJ had her beat with some numbers, his singles probably didn't stay on the charts as long cause he was considered more of an albums artists and the hits enabled people to go and buy his albums in mass quantities and they would listen to him that way while radio would move on to the next single and so would they.

Anyways, happy for her and wish she got more credit. I almost feel like younger people don't know her work and know michael's better and sometimes I wish she got her due and was not known for Superbowl.

[Edited 9/23/13 16:25pm]

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