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Thread started 08/18/13 1:22am

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Jodeci: What the Hell Really Happened?

I've been thinking recently Jodeci did three projects in 5 years. But they just stopped after that? MCA must have been pissed after investing that much money in this group and they were like "We are going to take a hiatus" For close to two decades? Did Jojo & Kci duo really give them the out

Could it be that MCA didn't want to deal w/ the fact that they had total control of their production/songwriters & didn't need any outside assistance? Dalvin says they recorded 200 songs and w/ those 200 songs you would think they would be able to pick 12 to make a fine comeback album.

If Dalvin is telling the truth that Devante is in the studio every night, they must have a crazy amount of music. Jodeci's management must be horrible because they don't even want to release anything from the past near two decades. Does anyone know why nothing came out other than feature collabs?

You can't say drugs to the answer of the question, lol Jodeci must really have the most horrible deal not even release anything this long. WHat the hell is going on? I see Kci and Jojo are about to release another duo album, forget a Jodeci album.

I refuse to believe that Devante is just sitting in an alley on a cocktail of ecstasy/heroin/cocaine/meth completely out of his mind. That Devante interview was rather strange from 2 years ago, he doesn't sound like he even wants to deal w/ another contract. MCA & Suge Knight have made the Degrate brothers untrusting of anything. Even Dalvin hasn't released any solo since 2000.

When did Jodeci sign a deal w/ Interscope? They couldn't even get a e.p.? This deal must be horrible.

DEVANTE SWING: [Laughs] I’m going online, but I had to get the money up first to be able to do it, like I’m telling you. Like, Jodeci is stuck in a contract with Interscope. Interscope don’t want to release us because they want all these demands around our contract [??]and we not willing to give up, and all this stuff. Cause they not making money just on album sales no more, they understand that people download, [??]. Because they told me straight to my face when I went to meet with them, this the record label: “You know, we don’t care how hot the album is, we want ya’ll touring money, we want this, that, this that” and back in the day they didn’t have ‘artist merchandising or touring money,’ they call this the 360 deal nowadays. So it’s like, okay, you can have all this touring money, you can have that if you give us some more money. [But] we not going to give it to you for free. So we been in this constant battle. So at the end of the day, now that I have my own money, they can have Jodeci right now, [but] I’m getting ready to release some DeVante shit on the side. Excuse my French, but I’m getting ready to release some DeVante stuff on the side. And…you know, if they want to come on up to the party, they can, but other than that, you know, Jodeci is there. We talk everyday. We’re not mad at each other, we fine. So it’s like, you know, they my brothers. It’s two separate brothers, so if two of us is getting along, the other two is. So it’s always been like that. You know Jodeci ain’t got no problem. We’re going to do a show probably a month from now, a big show. So we’ve always been doing shows and going on tours. In London…like last two years, like, this year, actually, we did London. A couple of years ago we did something. So we go on tour together, we just ain’t gone do this business if we ain’t making no money. We might as well work at a regular store.

Interscope wants to take everything from 4 members just trying to live. Anyone know if Interscope deal is still the same? eek Devante must be scared to death to release a solo project, he didn't have a singing voice. What is he going to do? I hope he doesn't go the Stevie J route and get a reality show spin off. neutral Come to think of it, how much money could a quartet group make release an album these days?

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Reply #1 posted 08/18/13 2:14am

mrjun18

One word: "drugs".
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Reply #2 posted 08/18/13 3:24am

ADC

R&B version of Guns N Roses.

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Reply #3 posted 08/18/13 11:43am

Trickology

mrjun18 said:

One word: "drugs".

If all four brothers were out of it, no studio would have them, the drug situation must alternate. The fact they didn't release anything is strange in itself. They didn't even give any new material for the greatest hits. neutral Damn, I said,don't say drugs. lol

[Edited 8/18/13 4:43am]

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Reply #4 posted 08/18/13 1:08pm

missfee

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Drugs and alcohol was basically it.

I will forever love and miss you...my sweet Prince.
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Reply #5 posted 08/18/13 1:25pm

AlexdeParis

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I'm still waaaaaiting... for that aaaaaalbum...

(I'll be waiting) forever, forever, foreeeeeever...

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Reply #6 posted 08/18/13 11:51pm

DerekH

I'm not sure about a new album, but did anyone see what happened at a show they did in England a few months ago?

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Reply #7 posted 08/19/13 1:02am

HMD82

Does any of you remember that VIBE article about DeVante & Jodici?

Fascinating read. DeVante went through some issues, and it reflected on his treatment to his artists - even though they acknowledged that he was a very good mentor to them.

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Reply #8 posted 08/19/13 5:30am

dseann

mrjun18 said:

One word: "drugs".

"Cocaine is a hellova drug..." lol

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Reply #9 posted 08/19/13 1:41pm

Graycap23

These cats are so over the top that it is beyond ridicules.

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Reply #10 posted 08/19/13 6:35pm

Cinny

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Well the last album was 1995 and lived into 1996, and then K-Ci & JoJo broke off in 1997 to release an album with a bigger smash single ("All My Life") than any of Jodeci's hits. K-Ci & JoJo were SO POP in 1998, and in the meantime Jodeci's main producer Devante Swing had his feelings hurt somewhat by the success of his underlings, Timbaland, Missy, and Ginuwine.

What happened in the 00's, I don't know.

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Reply #11 posted 08/19/13 9:55pm

TonyVanDam

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DeVante losing his damn mind AND sanity due to his drug problems.

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Reply #12 posted 08/20/13 12:08am

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MCA, Interscope, Geffen are all a part of Universal Records, so that si who owned the masters.

From what I know it is/was and always will be the drugs, the alcohol and drama of trying to be a group.

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Reply #13 posted 08/20/13 4:53am

SeventeenDayze

I think it has more to do with how the music industry (in my opinion) deliberately does things to sabotage artists into speeding up their own demise. I think the enablers, hangers on, etc. are a huge part of the problem. I think this is strange that those guys seemed to just be in the stratosphere one minute then obscure 90s nostalgia dudes the next minute. I guess it's the nature of the business. Very few artists are fortunate enough to have longevity and sadly, this is even more true in R&B past the early-mid 80s or so...

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Reply #14 posted 08/20/13 1:47pm

Graycap23

SeventeenDayze said:

I think it has more to do with how the music industry (in my opinion) deliberately does things to sabotage artists into speeding up their own demise.

That could be but these guys did this 2 themselves.

At the height of their career, K-ci was invited 2 be the act at an NBA player's birthday party in San Diego. He was so drunk that he did not get thru a single song and damn near passed out on the stage. I was so dumbfounded by this that 2 this day I still can't believe he did that dumb shit. It was extremely embarrassing 4 everyone involved and it ruined the party.

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Reply #15 posted 08/20/13 3:22pm

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SeventeenDayze said:

I think it has more to do with how the music industry (in my opinion) deliberately does things to sabotage artists into speeding up their own demise. I think the enablers, hangers on, etc. are a huge part of the problem. I think this is strange that those guys seemed to just be in the stratosphere one minute then obscure 90s nostalgia dudes the next minute. I guess it's the nature of the business. Very few artists are fortunate enough to have longevity and sadly, this is even more true in R&B past the early-mid 80s or so...

Good points

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Reply #16 posted 08/20/13 5:17pm

SeventeenDayze

mjscarousal said:

SeventeenDayze said:

I think it has more to do with how the music industry (in my opinion) deliberately does things to sabotage artists into speeding up their own demise. I think the enablers, hangers on, etc. are a huge part of the problem. I think this is strange that those guys seemed to just be in the stratosphere one minute then obscure 90s nostalgia dudes the next minute. I guess it's the nature of the business. Very few artists are fortunate enough to have longevity and sadly, this is even more true in R&B past the early-mid 80s or so...

Good points

Thanks! Also good points made by Graycap as well. Something to consider...how many times do you hear about artists getting so strung out that they eventually sign away the rights/royalities to their music (if they were lucky enough to get them)? How many times do the fat cat record execs, attorneys, etc. just conveniently become the ones to take that away from the artists? I think it's done by design to control the artists and to ensure that they will most likely never get what they are really worth.

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