Graycap23 said:

Didn't Vanilla Ice get in trouble 4 this same thing with Queen?

Graycap it is not that close!!!

http://www.youtube.com/wa...gg#t=1m47s

Y not put Marvine Gay's GTGIU in the credits pannel? No big deal, Thicke....

Graycap23 said:

Proactive nonsense.

They jacked the track.

NEXT.

1) Everybody and their momma knows Blurred Lines would have never occurred, had GTGIU not preceded it.

2) There is no melodic similarity. If you think there is, please point out the reference times on each track.

3) You cannot copyright a kick/snare/hihat/cowbell pattern. If you swapped that pattern out of BL for another drum pattern, no-one would have even considered any similarity between these two songs.

The great hijack.......

SoulAlive said:

that scream doesn't come from Marvin Gaye....it's from Michael Jackson's "Don't Stop Til You Get Enough"...the beginning of that song,when Michael says "you make me feel like......woooooh!"

Michael borrowed the "wooooh!" from Marvin, with Marvin's blessings of course. Rick James also used Marvin's "wooooh!" as the intro to Dance Wit Me.

Graycap23 said:

SoulAlive said:

I think this lawsuit is simply to clarify things and get everything out in the open,to prevent any confusion.Robin and Pharrell seem to be challenging the family's assertion that they stole/sampled the Marvin Gaye track.Marvin's family were threatening them,demanding money and so this is their way of dealing with that.It makes sense to let a judge decide the matter.

As I said earlier,many of today's songs have similiar chords,beats and ideas from old classic songs.But merely "channelling" an old song is not the same thing as stealing it.

Eaxctly what is the test?

Note 4 note?

Note for note.....excep a slight change?

Didn't Vanilla Ice get in trouble 4 this same thing with Queen?

Hell yeah! David Bowie & Queen weren't buying Vanilla Ice's OR DJ Earthquake's bullshit about the bass notes being different from Under Pressure because a few "grace notes" that were added for Ice Ice Baby.

And while we're talking about Pharrell Williams, he should fell very bless AND lucky that Prince never called him out for producing & composing Britney's Slave 4 U like a rip-off of Vanity 6's Nasty Girl.

Scorp said:

The great hijack.......

It REALLY is!

They've managed to evoke the greatness of a well known classic and turn it into a worldwide number 1, without actually being lawfully guilty of anything at all.

nd33 said:

Scorp said:

The great hijack.......

It REALLY is!

They've managed to evoke the greatness of a well known classic and turn it into a worldwide number 1, without actually being lawfully guilty of anything at all.

Cinny said:

Graycap23 said:

Didn't Vanilla Ice get in trouble 4 this same thing with Queen?

Graycap it is not that close!!!

http://www.youtube.com/wa...gg#t=1m47s

Bullshit. Read reply #96 of THIS thread.

nd33 said:

Scorp said:

The great hijack.......

It REALLY is!

They've managed to evoke the greatness of a well known classic and turn it into a worldwide number 1, without actually being lawfully guilty of anything at all.

Bullshit! The verdict on that is just beginning!

nd33 said:

Scorp said:

The great hijack.......

It REALLY is!

They've managed to evoke the greatness of a well known classic and turn it into a worldwide number 1, without actually being lawfully guilty of anything at all.

amen

TonyVanDam said:

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

I'm not a fan of this song, but I'm just saying.

http://prince.org/msg/7/317332

Sounds like Kiss

Sounds like Do Me Baby

Sounds like Cream

[Edited 8/16/13 18:59pm]

Other examples

Ray Charles

The Ward Singers

Ray Charles

The Southern Tones

I feel as if the person/people that wrote Shalamar's Take That To The Bank will eventually come forward and call bullshit on Robin because Ain't No Hat 4 That is a rip of that song as well. Robin is talented but he bit a lot of classics for this new album even though I love it.

Zannaloaf said:

Marvin borrowed that WOOOOOH from Ronald Isley. Go check out some early Isley Brothers. Stone cold ripoff.

Which tracks?

lrn36 said:

I'm not a fan of this song, but I'm just saying.

http://prince.org/msg/7/317332

Sounds like Kiss

@Prince.........Oh Mr. Nelson, say it isn't so!

TonyVanDam said:

Cinny said:

Graycap it is not that close!!!

http://www.youtube.com/wa...gg#t=1m47s

Bullshit. Read reply #96 of THIS thread.

BULL SHIT!

"Blurred Lines" is no where as close in melody to "Got To Give It Up" as "Ice Ice Baby" is to "Under Pressure".

AlexdeParis said:

novabrkr said:

Cinny said:

I thought the redone MJ'ish "Woooo!!" was there as a placeholder for the crowd noise in the GTGIU groove.

I have the CD, and there are only 3 writers (Robin, Pharrell, and T.I.) and their 3 respective publishing companies credited.

Pharrell knows how to play rhythmically to create a groove, and write different melodies to make something new. You can't copyright a chord progression or a drum pattern. Infringement begins when the original mechanical masters are used, and the same melody (lyric) is put on top of the same chord.

Additionally, the copyright law was created to protect NEW songs from being re-recorded and released shortly after as "direct competition" sales-wise.

Thank you.

nd33 said:

Scorp said:

The great hijack.......

It REALLY is!

They've managed to evoke the greatness of a well known classic and turn it into a worldwide number 1, without actually being lawfully guilty of anything at all.

True that! It's actually a pretty inspired effort. I'd say they did exactly what they set out to do. The songs was released about 6 months ago and they still haven't been sued for it.

[Edited 8/17/13 5:34am]

scriptgirl said:

Why should Got to give it up be in the public domain? That doesn't make sense. It is the property of the artist or their estate or the heirs of the estate.

Well, that's certainly the case now that copyright law has been perverted beyond all recognition. But its intent was to allow artists to profit off their works before shifting to the public domain where everyone can benefit from them. Ultimately, the whole idea of intellectual property is kind of silly. It's not actual property and shouldn't be treated as such. (The first part of that sentence is fact, but the second part is surely opinion.) But now that corporations are involved, we'll just keep seeing lawsuits that are akin to a big brother suing a little brother for copying him... even if the big brother has been dead longer than he was alive.

I really see no viable future for the recording industry

I just don't see it if all of the detrimental factors are weeded out and things starts from scratch

there's no question Robin and those associated w/this record hijacked Marvin Gaye

it's one thing to borrow or incorporate a sound expression like "woooooo" or "Ooooooh"

it's another thing altogether to hijack a musical composition and act like what they did was authentic

in all honestly, Robin hasn't done anything that hasn't been practiced in the past quarter century

but nobody has been more of a hijacker than the greatest hijacker of them all

KIRK FRANKLIN.....he's hijacked at least 40 songs throughout his career and he started right out the box hijacking

but as the late great Don Cornelius once said during an interview

AlexdeParis said:

Cinny said:

I thought the redone MJ'ish "Woooo!!" was there as a placeholder for the crowd noise in the GTGIU groove.

I have the CD, and there are only 3 writers (Robin, Pharrell, and T.I.) and their 3 respective publishing companies credited.

Pharrell knows how to play rhythmically to create a groove, and write different melodies to make something new. You can't copyright a chord progression or a drum pattern. Infringement begins when the original mechanical masters are used, and the same melody (lyric) is put on top of the same chord.

Additionally, the copyright law was created to protect NEW songs from being re-recorded and released shortly after as "direct competition" sales-wise.

Thank you.

Only people that agree with me read my posts.

Scorp said:

nd33 said:

It REALLY is!

They've managed to evoke the greatness of a well known classic and turn it into a worldwide number 1, without actually being lawfully guilty of anything at all.

amen

I think you missed the sarcasm.

I also have perspective that this has notched up interest in "Got To Give It Up" and probably Marvin Gaye's catalog for a new generation, or an audience that missed it the first time around.

.

Tally for a new hit, and a tally for a catalog sale. This is a music win-win.

Cinny said:

I also have perspective that this has notched up interest in "Got To Give It Up" and probably Marvin Gaye's catalog for a new generation, or an audience that missed it the first time around.

.

Tally for a new hit, and a tally for a catalog sale. This is a music win-win.

Certainly looks that way. "Got to Give It Up" is #6 and #10 on the iTunes R&B Chart right now and Marvin's hits packages are at #10 and #23 on the R&B albums chart.