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Thread started 07/31/13 8:35pm

Fury

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what type of album pretty much says "your career is over"?

1. The dreaded "covers" album

2. The inspirational "Gospel" album

3. The hot "15 producers" album

4. The "...featuring" album

5 The "we're back together " album

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Reply #1 posted 07/31/13 9:27pm

MickyDolenz

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Fury said:

1. "covers" album

Like this?

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Reply #2 posted 07/31/13 9:29pm

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Fury said:

1. The dreaded "covers" album

2. The inspirational "Gospel" album

3. The hot "15 producers" album

4. The "...featuring" album

5 The "we're back together " album

oh lord the fake gospel albums

I cant even do it.

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Reply #3 posted 07/31/13 10:16pm

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I gotta go with the gospel album. Especially if your whole career in secular music was based on sex, drugs and rock n roll. I remember the rapper Gangsta Boo deciding to go the Christian Hip Hop route, then came back to hardcore hip hop. Coco from SWV. Salt from Salt N Pepa. Not to mention you made millions from profane material and now that you fell off, you want to "get close with God".

Cover albums don't really bother me for some reason from respected musicans. However, a lot of jazz musicians were feeling the pressure from their record companies to record Beatles covers because they were so popular and jazz itself was declining in popularity. Thelonius Monk left his record company when he was propositioned to make a covers album of Fab Four tunes.

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Reply #4 posted 07/31/13 11:37pm

MickyDolenz

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bashraka said:

I gotta go with the gospel album. Especially if your whole career in secular music was based on sex, drugs and rock n roll.

What about people like Little Richard, Joe Simon, & Al Green, who abandoned their secular careers while they were still popular to become preachers and record and perform gospel only? Joe never went back secular and doesn't perform his old songs. Cat Stevens also left secular music. Or the reverse, gospel singers who switched to secular like Sam Cooke and Amy Grant? I think the Christian rock band Stryper made a secular album too. Some acts usually had at least 1 gospel song on otherwise secular albums like Deniece Williams, rather than releasing a whole album of it like Elvis Presley. The only Grammys that Elvis won were for gospel albums.

You can take a black guy to Nashville from right out of the cotton fields with bib overalls, and they will call him R&B. You can take a white guy in a pin-stripe suit who’s never seen a cotton field, and they will call him country. ~ O. B. McClinton
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Reply #5 posted 08/01/13 9:29am

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Some covers albums are pretty good, or just a stop-gap to keep busy while still writing new stuff. I'd be worried if I saw someone like Pete Townshend doing one.

I guess none of those albums are an automatic sign that someone's career is over, they're just all kind of trying too hard to sell you something and not trying hard enough to do something that feels like art. It's a phase that a good artist might bounce back from.

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Reply #6 posted 08/01/13 9:38am

aardvark15

You forgot the "rerecord famous songs and make them different" album
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Reply #7 posted 08/01/13 10:22am

Fury

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Not saying that these can't be great albums...I love George michael's songs of the last century ... But even he himself said he had nothing creative going on and he just did it to put an album out
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Reply #8 posted 08/01/13 11:04am

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paisleypark4 said:

Fury said:

1. The dreaded "covers" album

2. The inspirational "Gospel" album

3. The hot "15 producers" album

4. The "...featuring" album

5 The "we're back together " album

oh lord the fake gospel albums

I cant even do it.

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Reply #9 posted 08/01/13 3:03pm

namepeace

For some artists, it's Christmas albums.

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Reply #10 posted 08/01/13 3:53pm

SoulAlive

cover albums.

It seems like a lazy,quick way to rejuvenate a fading career.Sometimes it works (Rod Stewart),but more often than not,it makes an artist seem like they finally ran out of ideas.I have bought covers albums in the past,but I refuse to buy one ever again.

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Reply #11 posted 08/02/13 4:05pm

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Anything titled "Live at the ______________ Amphitheatre."

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Reply #12 posted 08/03/13 10:33am

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When an older artist that hasn't made an album in years, comes back and makes a new album without their own style, but a weak generic sounding one that sounds like everyone else these days. It just goes to show how desperate they are.

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Reply #13 posted 08/03/13 10:36am

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SoulAlive said:

cover albums.

It seems like a lazy,quick way to rejuvenate a fading career.Sometimes it works (Rod Stewart),but more often than not,it makes an artist seem like they finally ran out of ideas.I have bought covers albums in the past,but I refuse to buy one ever again.

He turned into a bore as far back as the mid to late 1980s. The last good thing he had was "Infatuation".

Andy is a four letter word.
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Reply #14 posted 08/03/13 10:45am

JoeTyler

1. A MEDIOCRE/POINTLESS "covers" album (specially of gospel, blues and or jazz standards)

2. The inspirational "Gospel" album (see Nº1)

3. The hot "15 producers" album

4. The "...featuring" album

+ 5.The heavily promoted album full of filler and weak singles (...the harder the fall)

+ 6.The "risky/trying something radically different" album (sorry, it doesn't work, unless you're Bowie)

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Reply #15 posted 08/03/13 11:08am

Cinny

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I have heard some good-ass cover albums! I like when artists choose songs that meant something to them or inspired them in the first place (and often continue to inspire them their whole lives).

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Reply #16 posted 08/03/13 11:21am

ludwig

namepeace said:

For some artists, it's Christmas albums.

Yes, exactly what I wanted to say.

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Reply #17 posted 08/03/13 11:24am

MickyDolenz

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Cinny said:

I have heard some good-ass cover albums!

Technically, aren't orchestras, Broadway, & opera performers doing covers albums? razz

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Reply #18 posted 08/03/13 11:34am

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Cinny said:

That album is a mixed bag for me. Some songs are just awesome and others (especially A Whiter Shade Of Pale) are just too good in their original form to cover.

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Reply #19 posted 08/03/13 12:01pm

Cinny

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JoeTyler said:

1. A MEDIOCRE/POINTLESS "covers" album (specially of gospel, blues and or jazz standards)

2. The inspirational "Gospel" album (see Nº1)

3. The hot "15 producers" album

4. The "...featuring" album

+ 5.The heavily promoted album full of filler and weak singles (...the harder the fall)

+ 6.The "risky/trying something radically different" album (sorry, it doesn't work, unless you're Bowie)


On point edits.

I think I have seen the pointless covers album with people singing jazz standards when that was not what they were about at all.

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Reply #20 posted 08/03/13 2:22pm

mrjun18

Can't forget the "(insert separate artist) + (insert separate artist) + (insert separate artist) are making a group album together" album.

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Reply #21 posted 08/03/13 2:27pm

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Fury said:

1. The dreaded "covers" album

2. The inspirational "Gospel" album

3. The hot "15 producers" album

4. The "...featuring" album

5 The "we're back together " album


#1's alway's a bad sign. lol

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Reply #22 posted 08/03/13 3:16pm

SoulAlive

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When an older artist that hasn't made an album in years, comes back and makes a new album without their own style, but a weak generic sounding one that sounds like everyone else these days. It just goes to show how desperate they are.

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Reply #23 posted 08/03/13 4:37pm

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Ace said:

Fury said:

1. The dreaded "covers" album

2. The inspirational "Gospel" album

3. The hot "15 producers" album

4. The "...featuring" album

5 The "we're back together " album


#1's alway's a bad sign. lol

That and when they do something like what Rod Stewart did - an album of standards, like stuff from Nat King Cole and Tony Bennett. Mr. Stewart did SEVEN albums like that!

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Reply #24 posted 08/03/13 4:40pm

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For me, a "your career is over" album is when an artist makes an album covering their past hits! eek Didn't Dionne Warwick do like 2 or 3 of those albums?disbelief It seemed to work for Lionel last year but he's the only one I can really think of who's career that type of album actually rejuvinated. 99% of the time, it's the ultimate in desperate attempts to keep a recording career going.

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Reply #25 posted 08/03/13 4:43pm

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vainandy said:

When an older artist that hasn't made an album in years, comes back and makes a new album without their own style, but a weak generic sounding one that sounds like everyone else these days. It just goes to show how desperate they are.

Your statement immediately brings The Bar-kays to mind. disbelief

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Reply #26 posted 08/03/13 5:42pm

CocoRock

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Anything titled "Live at the _____ Amphitheatre."


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Reply #27 posted 08/03/13 6:20pm

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kitbradley said:

For me, a "your career is over" album is when an artist makes an album covering their past hits! eek Didn't Dionne Warwick do like 2 or 3 of those albums?disbelief It seemed to work for Lionel last year but he's the only one I can really think of who's career that type of album actually rejuvinated. 99% of the time, it's the ultimate in desperate attempts to keep a recording career going.

Sometimes acts release these kinds of albums because they make no money from the original recordings because they signed a bad contract or got ripped off some other kind of way. Others like James Brown would record songs over and over with different arrangements.

You can take a black guy to Nashville from right out of the cotton fields with bib overalls, and they will call him R&B. You can take a white guy in a pin-stripe suit who’s never seen a cotton field, and they will call him country. ~ O. B. McClinton
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Reply #28 posted 08/03/13 6:31pm

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Reply #29 posted 08/03/13 6:34pm

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MickyDolenz said:

kitbradley said:

For me, a "your career is over" album is when an artist makes an album covering their past hits! eek Didn't Dionne Warwick do like 2 or 3 of those albums?disbelief It seemed to work for Lionel last year but he's the only one I can really think of who's career that type of album actually rejuvinated. 99% of the time, it's the ultimate in desperate attempts to keep a recording career going.

Sometimes acts release these kinds of albums because they make no money from the original recordings because they signed a bad contract or got ripped off some other kind of way. Others like James Brown would record songs over and over with different arrangements.

thos e albums always piss me off because they sound nothing the original i wanted to hear!

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