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Madonna's "American Life" album...collect all 3! I just went to Amazon and say that Madonna's new album is coming out April 22nd (no surprise). What is kind of surprising is the cover, wtih a kind of geisha revoultionary look. Check it out for yourself. Also Madonna is making a smart move and releasing a specail edition with a DVD. Let me guess..could this DVD include the controverisal new vid for "American Life"? I think so. And there will also be a verison with "explicit lyrics", something Madonna hasn't done since releasing "Erotica" with the throwaway track "Did You Do It" (worst sort of Madonna song ever!). I just hope the special editon has the unedited disc. I want the most Madonna bang for my buck.
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interesting that even though madonna has found spiritual enlightenment and has children of her own, she still manages to endorse violence and explicit language. I think I'll stick to the idea of "judging by the fruits" in regards to anything she has to say. Smart move though on the 3 different CDs, should help to boost sales! | |
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ooohh. I like that cover.
I only seen the black & white & red one...is this the 1? rite? Straight Jacket Funk Affair
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imnotsayinthisjust2bnasty said: interesting that even though madonna has found spiritual enlightenment and has children of her own, she still manages to endorse violence and explicit language. I think I'll stick to the idea of "judging by the fruits" in regards to anything she has to say. Smart move though on the 3 different CDs, should help to boost sales!
So having children means you have to stop cussing and become a prude? LOL...this is Madonna we're talking about here! As for the violence, Madonna is not "endorsing" it.Her views on this upcoming war are well-known. | |
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VinnyM27 said: I just went to Amazon and say that Madonna's new album is coming out April 22nd (no surprise). What is kind of surprising is the cover, wtih a kind of geisha revoultionary look. Check it out for yourself. Also Madonna is making a smart move and releasing a specail edition with a DVD. Let me guess..could this DVD include the controverisal new vid for "American Life"? I think so. And there will also be a verison with "explicit lyrics", something Madonna hasn't done since releasing "Erotica" with the throwaway track "Did You Do It" (worst sort of Madonna song ever!). I just hope the special editon has the unedited disc. I want the most Madonna bang for my buck.
http://www.amazon.com/exe...72-0110436 I definitely plan to buy the Special Edition (uncensored).The bonus DVD will contain the unreleased remix video of "Die Another Day",the full,un-edited video of "American Life",the AOL Sessions interview,and several other goodies.I'm hoping that the CD will also contain a bonus track. . [This message was edited Thu Mar 13 0:49:17 PST 2003 by DavidEye] | |
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DavidEye said: So having children means you have to stop cussing and become a prude? LOL...this is Madonna we're talking about here! As for the violence, Madonna is not "endorsing" it.Her views on this upcoming war are well-known.
No, having childen does not mean you must become a prude. Claiming to be spritiual, however, does. People who take their spirituality seriously (be it kabbalah, christianity, yoga, whatever) are also very concerned in being good role models for others. They are concerned with positivity and good examples. Madonna cursing and "making a statement" by showcasing violence doesn't add up to someone who is sincere in their desires for spiritual oneness. I understand that she is a succesful woman and that is a way of being a role model, but when it comes to someone who is supposedly altering their life to a religious/spiritual belief you are dealing with something entirely different. I just think this showcases madonna's lack of connection to anything that's not superficial. The bottom line is anyone interested in spiritual change must start from themselves...she is showing no signs of change, just a new angle to sell herself. | |
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imnotsayinthisjust2bnasty said: DavidEye said: So having children means you have to stop cussing and become a prude? LOL...this is Madonna we're talking about here! As for the violence, Madonna is not "endorsing" it.Her views on this upcoming war are well-known.
No, having childen does not mean you must become a prude. Claiming to be spritiual, however, does. People who take their spirituality seriously (be it kabbalah, christianity, yoga, whatever) are also very concerned in being good role models for others. They are concerned with positivity and good examples. Madonna cursing and "making a statement" by showcasing violence doesn't add up to someone who is sincere in their desires for spiritual oneness. I understand that she is a succesful woman and that is a way of being a role model, but when it comes to someone who is supposedly altering their life to a religious/spiritual belief you are dealing with something entirely different. I just think this showcases madonna's lack of connection to anything that's not superficial. The bottom line is anyone interested in spiritual change must start from themselves...she is showing no signs of change, just a new angle to sell herself. Hmmm, so all those years Prince was still cursing, he wasn't actually spiritual at all? And we're happy now that he's found his spirituality he's decided that he can't curse and be dirty too? The two aren't mutually exclusive. | |
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AaronFantastic said: imnotsayinthisjust2bnasty said: DavidEye said: So having children means you have to stop cussing and become a prude? LOL...this is Madonna we're talking about here! As for the violence, Madonna is not "endorsing" it.Her views on this upcoming war are well-known.
No, having childen does not mean you must become a prude. Claiming to be spritiual, however, does. People who take their spirituality seriously (be it kabbalah, christianity, yoga, whatever) are also very concerned in being good role models for others. They are concerned with positivity and good examples. Madonna cursing and "making a statement" by showcasing violence doesn't add up to someone who is sincere in their desires for spiritual oneness. I understand that she is a succesful woman and that is a way of being a role model, but when it comes to someone who is supposedly altering their life to a religious/spiritual belief you are dealing with something entirely different. I just think this showcases madonna's lack of connection to anything that's not superficial. The bottom line is anyone interested in spiritual change must start from themselves...she is showing no signs of change, just a new angle to sell herself. Hmmm, so all those years Prince was still cursing, he wasn't actually spiritual at all? And we're happy now that he's found his spirituality he's decided that he can't curse and be dirty too? The two aren't mutually exclusive. The difference between Prince and Madonna though is that Madonna uses these tools exlusively to sell records. She may have the beliefs but she pimps them to sell records. They're all commodities to Madonna. | |
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WildheartXXX said: AaronFantastic said: imnotsayinthisjust2bnasty said: DavidEye said: So having children means you have to stop cussing and become a prude? LOL...this is Madonna we're talking about here! As for the violence, Madonna is not "endorsing" it.Her views on this upcoming war are well-known.
No, having childen does not mean you must become a prude. Claiming to be spritiual, however, does. People who take their spirituality seriously (be it kabbalah, christianity, yoga, whatever) are also very concerned in being good role models for others. They are concerned with positivity and good examples. Madonna cursing and "making a statement" by showcasing violence doesn't add up to someone who is sincere in their desires for spiritual oneness. I understand that she is a succesful woman and that is a way of being a role model, but when it comes to someone who is supposedly altering their life to a religious/spiritual belief you are dealing with something entirely different. I just think this showcases madonna's lack of connection to anything that's not superficial. The bottom line is anyone interested in spiritual change must start from themselves...she is showing no signs of change, just a new angle to sell herself. Hmmm, so all those years Prince was still cursing, he wasn't actually spiritual at all? And we're happy now that he's found his spirituality he's decided that he can't curse and be dirty too? The two aren't mutually exclusive. The difference between Prince and Madonna though is that Madonna uses these tools exlusively to sell records. She may have the beliefs but she pimps them to sell records. They're all commodities to Madonna. However i do think she makes really great music and a new Madonna album is better than 99% of all other pop music out there. I just hope the new album feels like an album and not like Music which sounded pasted together and too calculated even for Madonnas standards. | |
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WildheartXXX said: AaronFantastic said: imnotsayinthisjust2bnasty said: DavidEye said: So having children means you have to stop cussing and become a prude? LOL...this is Madonna we're talking about here! As for the violence, Madonna is not "endorsing" it.Her views on this upcoming war are well-known.
No, having childen does not mean you must become a prude. Claiming to be spritiual, however, does. People who take their spirituality seriously (be it kabbalah, christianity, yoga, whatever) are also very concerned in being good role models for others. They are concerned with positivity and good examples. Madonna cursing and "making a statement" by showcasing violence doesn't add up to someone who is sincere in their desires for spiritual oneness. I understand that she is a succesful woman and that is a way of being a role model, but when it comes to someone who is supposedly altering their life to a religious/spiritual belief you are dealing with something entirely different. I just think this showcases madonna's lack of connection to anything that's not superficial. The bottom line is anyone interested in spiritual change must start from themselves...she is showing no signs of change, just a new angle to sell herself. Hmmm, so all those years Prince was still cursing, he wasn't actually spiritual at all? And we're happy now that he's found his spirituality he's decided that he can't curse and be dirty too? The two aren't mutually exclusive. The difference between Prince and Madonna though is that Madonna uses these tools exlusively to sell records. She may have the beliefs but she pimps them to sell records. They're all commodities to Madonna. MADONNA pimps her spirituality? For fucks sake, Prince puts out whole albums about it. Is that not pimping? To make the selling point of your music the spirituality of it? (Lovesexy and TRC spring to mind most readily). If you don't think he's sold records because of his spirituality, then you need to take a closer look at the number of JW fans on this board. Were they fans before he was a JW, and were going against their religion? Or did they become fans because that's all he sings about now? Madonna doesn't do this. Can you actually, honestly, imagine someone saying "Oh, I'm buying a Madonna album because she's spiritual now." 
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paisleypark4 said: ooohh. I like that cover.
I only seen the black & white & red one...is this the 1? rite? They all have the same cover. | |
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AaronFantastic said: WildheartXXX said: AaronFantastic said: imnotsayinthisjust2bnasty said: DavidEye said: So having children means you have to stop cussing and become a prude? LOL...this is Madonna we're talking about here! As for the violence, Madonna is not "endorsing" it.Her views on this upcoming war are well-known.
No, having childen does not mean you must become a prude. Claiming to be spritiual, however, does. People who take their spirituality seriously (be it kabbalah, christianity, yoga, whatever) are also very concerned in being good role models for others. They are concerned with positivity and good examples. Madonna cursing and "making a statement" by showcasing violence doesn't add up to someone who is sincere in their desires for spiritual oneness. I understand that she is a succesful woman and that is a way of being a role model, but when it comes to someone who is supposedly altering their life to a religious/spiritual belief you are dealing with something entirely different. I just think this showcases madonna's lack of connection to anything that's not superficial. The bottom line is anyone interested in spiritual change must start from themselves...she is showing no signs of change, just a new angle to sell herself. Hmmm, so all those years Prince was still cursing, he wasn't actually spiritual at all? And we're happy now that he's found his spirituality he's decided that he can't curse and be dirty too? The two aren't mutually exclusive. The difference between Prince and Madonna though is that Madonna uses these tools exlusively to sell records. She may have the beliefs but she pimps them to sell records. They're all commodities to Madonna. MADONNA pimps her spirituality? For fucks sake, Prince puts out whole albums about it. Is that not pimping? To make the selling point of your music the spirituality of it? (Lovesexy and TRC spring to mind most readily). If you don't think he's sold records because of his spirituality, then you need to take a closer look at the number of JW fans on this board. Were they fans before he was a JW, and were going against their religion? Or did they become fans because that's all he sings about now? Madonna doesn't do this. Can you actually, honestly, imagine someone saying "Oh, I'm buying a Madonna album because she's spiritual now."
I can't. If you think Prince's newfound interest in JW is to sell records you are crazy. If it is a gimmick it sure is not working and he should get on to the next one. Madonna on the other hand stays on top of trends and, sorry, but new age spiritualism is a booming trend right now. Yoga classes on every city block (and lots of suburbs too), mysticism on tv all the time...it is cool to be into new age, it is not cool to be a JW. and as far as Prince being hypocritical...yes, i believe he was. I don't think he was aware of his hypocracy because he was still on his journey to truth. i personally don't think madonna is really sincere in all this new age spiritualism. Only time will tell for sure though. hopefully I'm wrong. no, people will not buy a new madonna album because she is spiritual now...people will buy a new madonna album because she keeps up with trends and knows what's cool in society. That is also a huge reason why P's records continually sell less and less...he does what he wants, not what the public wants. And also, why are we comparing the two? How come everytime we (anyone on the org) get into a debate on madonna someone brings it back to Prince. I don't understand it. I've shown over and over that I hold them both up to the same standards...it's just that madonna rarely meets those standards. | |
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imnotsayinthisjust2bnasty said: DavidEye said: So having children means you have to stop cussing and become a prude? LOL...this is Madonna we're talking about here! As for the violence, Madonna is not "endorsing" it.Her views on this upcoming war are well-known.
No, having childen does not mean you must become a prude. Claiming to be spritiual, however, does. People who take their spirituality seriously (be it kabbalah, christianity, yoga, whatever) are also very concerned in being good role models for others. They are concerned with positivity and good examples. Madonna cursing and "making a statement" by showcasing violence doesn't add up to someone who is sincere in their desires for spiritual oneness. I understand that she is a succesful woman and that is a way of being a role model, but when it comes to someone who is supposedly altering their life to a religious/spiritual belief you are dealing with something entirely different. I just think this showcases madonna's lack of connection to anything that's not superficial. The bottom line is anyone interested in spiritual change must start from themselves...she is showing no signs of change, just a new angle to sell herself. I'm actually glad that Madonna hasn't become TOO religious.I'm thrilled that she hasn't become a boring,conservative prude.Just because a person becomes "enlightened",it doesn't mean that they have to stop being themselves.I know you (and other religious people) would disagree with this,but that's how I feel.Madonna still curses and yes,she is still a very sexual person.She is being true to herself. | |
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WildheartXXX said: AaronFantastic said: imnotsayinthisjust2bnasty said: DavidEye said: So having children means you have to stop cussing and become a prude? LOL...this is Madonna we're talking about here! As for the violence, Madonna is not "endorsing" it.Her views on this upcoming war are well-known.
No, having childen does not mean you must become a prude. Claiming to be spritiual, however, does. People who take their spirituality seriously (be it kabbalah, christianity, yoga, whatever) are also very concerned in being good role models for others. They are concerned with positivity and good examples. Madonna cursing and "making a statement" by showcasing violence doesn't add up to someone who is sincere in their desires for spiritual oneness. I understand that she is a succesful woman and that is a way of being a role model, but when it comes to someone who is supposedly altering their life to a religious/spiritual belief you are dealing with something entirely different. I just think this showcases madonna's lack of connection to anything that's not superficial. The bottom line is anyone interested in spiritual change must start from themselves...she is showing no signs of change, just a new angle to sell herself. Hmmm, so all those years Prince was still cursing, he wasn't actually spiritual at all? And we're happy now that he's found his spirituality he's decided that he can't curse and be dirty too? The two aren't mutually exclusive. The difference between Prince and Madonna though is that Madonna uses these tools exlusively to sell records. She may have the beliefs but she pimps them to sell records. They're all commodities to Madonna. Excuse me,but what do you mean "Madonna uses these tools exclusively to sell records"? Madonna has not made a "religious record" at ANY point in her career! She does not force her beliefs on her fans.'Ray Of Light' is a personal,deep and introspective album but it's not a religious record by any means,and neither is 'Music'. | |
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Madonna's spirituality amounts to nothing more than another image change. It doesn't have any genuine personal impact or deeper meaning. I think this is what I'mnotsayingthistobenasty is trying to convey.
I enjoy some of Madonna's music and I admire her determination and sucess in the music industry. However, she is very aware of how to market herself and her spirituality does not appear any more than another marketing tool. If her beliefs were genuine then her personality and statements would alter accordingly. Prince's spirituality in the past was also very changeable and seemed to be founded on his own interpretations. However, Prince has made some genuinely powerful spiritual songs throughout his career and has risked his fan-base and record sales to express his beliefs. In addition, Prince seems to have taken his beliefs and association with Jehovah's Witnesses very seriously since 1998 and the changes in his personality, lyrics, stage shows and appearance are very noticeable. Prince certainly hasn't made these alterations because Jehovah's Witnesses are 'cool' or because it will generate him more record sales. He has made these statements and made these changes because of a strong, genuine belief. Ultimately, it is also a belief for which Prince is clearly willing to risk his entire career and reputation for, something I do not believe we will ever see Madonna doing. | |
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Mr7 said: Madonna's spirituality amounts to nothing more than another image change. It doesn't have any genuine personal impact or deeper meaning. I think this is what I'mnotsayingthistobenasty is trying to convey.
But,without knowing Madonna personally,how you possibly say that? We only see Madonna "the artist/celebrity/superstar",we do not really know how serious she is about spirituality and religion.And that's actually a good thing.I would hate for her to start forcing her beliefs on her fans. | |
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If you don't think he's sold records because of his spirituality, then you need to take a closer look at the number of JW fans on this board. Were they fans before he was a JW, and were going against their religion? Or did they become fans because that's all he sings about now? *** I have been on prince.org since 1998 (under various names) and I have been a 'fan' of Prince's music since 1991. I have Prince's entire back-catalouge. There are only about 5 songs I tend to avoid. A Jehovah's Witness who was a fan before Prince became involved was not necessarily 'going against their religion'. Each one must decide for themselves what it is appropriate to listen to. I am on this board because I admire and enjoy Prince's music, not because he is a Jehovah's Witness. I would also strongly refute that 'that's all he sings about now'. Apart from 'The Rainbow Children' the references on subsequent albums have been few and far between. The only reference I can detect on 'One Nite Alone' is on 'Young and Beautiful' and this refers to Christian advice on relationships more than any JW specific Doctrine. On the 'One Nite Alone ...Live!' box-set there are only about 3 mentions spanning the 3 discs ('Xenophobia', '1+1+1=3', 'Anna Stesia') apart from the live versions of songs from 'The Rainbow Children'. In addition I think it is very evident that adopting the strict, blblically Christian lifestyle of a Jehovah's Witness is not going to generate a rise in record sales. In fact, Jehovah's Witnesses are probably one of the most misunderstood, misrepresented religions on earth today. | |
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Mr7 said: I enjoy some of Madonna's music and I admire her determination and sucess in the music industry. However, she is very aware of how to market herself and her spirituality does not appear any more than another marketing tool. A "marketing tool"? How is Madonna "marketing" her spirituality? By going to a female strip club in her 'Music' video? By shouting "Fuck off,Motherfuckers!" on her 'Drowned World' tour? By making a violent,anti-war music video for her new single? Is that your idea of "marketing" her spirituality? In fact,for the most part,Madonna (wisely) separates her religious beliefs from her music. In 1998,during the 'Ray Of Light' period,Madonna mentioned her new worldview in a few interviews.But,to her credit,she didn't ram it down her fans' throat,and she certainly did not use it a "marketing tool". . [This message was edited Fri Mar 14 3:49:07 PST 2003 by DavidEye] | |
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Mr7 said: AaronFantastic said
If you don't think he's sold records because of his spirituality, then you need to take a closer look at the number of JW fans on this board. Were they fans before he was a JW, and were going against their religion? Or did they become fans because that's all he sings about now? *** I have been on prince.org since 1998 (under various names) and I have been a 'fan' of Prince's music since 1991. I have Prince's entire back-catalouge. There are only about 5 songs I tend to avoid. A Jehovah's Witness who was a fan before Prince became involved was not necessarily 'going against their religion'. Each one must decide for themselves what it is appropriate to listen to. I am on this board because I admire and enjoy Prince's music, not because he is a Jehovah's Witness. I would also strongly refute that 'that's all he sings about now'. Apart from 'The Rainbow Children' the references on subsequent albums have been few and far between. The only reference I can detect on 'One Nite Alone' is on 'Young and Beautiful' and this refers to Christian advice on relationships more than any JW specific Doctrine. On the 'One Nite Alone ...Live!' box-set there are only about 3 mentions spanning the 3 discs ('Xenophobia', '1+1+1=3', 'Anna Stesia') apart from the live versions of songs from 'The Rainbow Children'. i was excluding those 2 albums, because ONA isn't a real album (as in, something put out for general release -- plus, it's piano demos), and ONAL... well, that's live. it's basically a compilation performance. In addition I think it is very evident that adopting the strict, blblically Christian lifestyle of a Jehovah's Witness is not going to generate a rise in record sales. In fact, Jehovah's Witnesses are probably one of the most misunderstood, misrepresented religions on earth today.
no, but he's making money off of his spirituality when that is all he's singing about. ie, pimping. | |
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imnotsayinthisjust2bnasty said: AaronFantastic said: WildheartXXX said: AaronFantastic said: imnotsayinthisjust2bnasty said: DavidEye said: So having children means you have to stop cussing and become a prude? LOL...this is Madonna we're talking about here! As for the violence, Madonna is not "endorsing" it.Her views on this upcoming war are well-known.
No, having childen does not mean you must become a prude. Claiming to be spritiual, however, does. People who take their spirituality seriously (be it kabbalah, christianity, yoga, whatever) are also very concerned in being good role models for others. They are concerned with positivity and good examples. Madonna cursing and "making a statement" by showcasing violence doesn't add up to someone who is sincere in their desires for spiritual oneness. I understand that she is a succesful woman and that is a way of being a role model, but when it comes to someone who is supposedly altering their life to a religious/spiritual belief you are dealing with something entirely different. I just think this showcases madonna's lack of connection to anything that's not superficial. The bottom line is anyone interested in spiritual change must start from themselves...she is showing no signs of change, just a new angle to sell herself. Hmmm, so all those years Prince was still cursing, he wasn't actually spiritual at all? And we're happy now that he's found his spirituality he's decided that he can't curse and be dirty too? The two aren't mutually exclusive. The difference between Prince and Madonna though is that Madonna uses these tools exlusively to sell records. She may have the beliefs but she pimps them to sell records. They're all commodities to Madonna. MADONNA pimps her spirituality? For fucks sake, Prince puts out whole albums about it. Is that not pimping? To make the selling point of your music the spirituality of it? (Lovesexy and TRC spring to mind most readily). If you don't think he's sold records because of his spirituality, then you need to take a closer look at the number of JW fans on this board. Were they fans before he was a JW, and were going against their religion? Or did they become fans because that's all he sings about now? Madonna doesn't do this. Can you actually, honestly, imagine someone saying "Oh, I'm buying a Madonna album because she's spiritual now."
I can't. If you think Prince's newfound interest in JW is to sell records you are crazy. I didn't say that at all. But when that's all you sing about, and you sell your music, then that's what you're making your bones on. | |
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TRON said: Voila!
[This message was edited Fri Mar 14 6:07:45 PST 2003 by TRON] Thank you TRON!!! You've just made my day 
I love Maddy's new look.She looks better with brown hair,imo.It looks more natural and sexier than the blond she usually prefers.And I always love her smile! . [This message was edited Fri Mar 14 6:35:41 PST 2003 by DavidEye] | |
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DavidEye said:[quote] Mr7 said: I enjoy some of Madonna's music and I admire her determination and sucess in the music industry. However, she is very aware of how to market herself and her spirituality does not appear any more than another marketing tool. A "marketing tool"? How is Madonna "marketing" her spirituality? By going to a female strip club in her 'Music' video? By shouting "Fuck off,Motherfuckers!" on her 'Drowned World' tour? By making a violent,anti-war music video for her new single? Is that your idea of "marketing" her spirituality? In fact,for the most part,Madonna (wisely) separates her religious beliefs from her music. In 1998,during the 'Ray Of Light' period,Madonna mentioned her new worldview in a few interviews.But,to her credit,she didn't ram it down her fans' throat,and she certainly did not use it a "marketing tool". *** I'm not suggesting that she should 'ram it down her fan's throat'. What I am implying is that a genuine religious belief or conversion would naturally manifest itself in a visible change of behaviour. It is identifiable by 'the fruitage of the spirit'. Making a 'violent, anti-war music video' is exactly the type of P.R behaviour Madonna engages in to capture the publics attention. In my opinion it is little more than a cynical bid for controversy. In a few months/years time she will return with a new 'controversy' and a new image. I'm not suggesting that there is anything fundamentally wrong with that, but in my view the evidence of Madonna's behaviour seems to indicate that she does not genuinely care about any of these issues. I do not percieve her as an artist who uses her art to express her honest feelings regarding life and the world. Rather, she evaluates the 'world'(the public) and merely gives it what it wants. | |
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Mr7 said:[quote] DavidEye said: Mr7 said: I enjoy some of Madonna's music and I admire her determination and sucess in the music industry. However, she is very aware of how to market herself and her spirituality does not appear any more than another marketing tool. A "marketing tool"? How is Madonna "marketing" her spirituality? By going to a female strip club in her 'Music' video? By shouting "Fuck off,Motherfuckers!" on her 'Drowned World' tour? By making a violent,anti-war music video for her new single? Is that your idea of "marketing" her spirituality? In fact,for the most part,Madonna (wisely) separates her religious beliefs from her music. In 1998,during the 'Ray Of Light' period,Madonna mentioned her new worldview in a few interviews.But,to her credit,she didn't ram it down her fans' throat,and she certainly did not use it a "marketing tool". *** I'm not suggesting that she should 'ram it down her fan's throat'. What I am implying is that a genuine religious belief or conversion would naturally manifest itself in a visible change of behaviour. It is identifiable by 'the fruitage of the spirit'. Making a 'violent, anti-war music video' is exactly the type of P.R behaviour Madonna engages in to capture the publics attention. In my opinion it is little more than a cynical bid for controversy. In a few months/years time she will return with a new 'controversy' and a new image. I'm not suggesting that there is anything fundamentally wrong with that, but in my view the evidence of Madonna's behaviour seems to indicate that she does not genuinely care about any of these issues. I do not percieve her as an artist who uses her art to express her honest feelings regarding life and the world. Rather, she evaluates the 'world'(the public) and merely gives it what it wants. That last paragraph sums Madonna up perfectly. Why can't her fans admit it?! Madonna just tries on different hats when it's fashionable to try it on. ie the Materialistic 80's. New age spiritualism of the late 90's and now shes getting political. I swear i can't wait for a bluegrass explosion. | |
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Oh,stop talking so much mess.Y'all know that,when her album is released,your asses are gonna be the first in line to buy it  | |
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TRON said: Voila!
[This message was edited Fri Mar 14 6:07:45 PST 2003 by TRON] what's this from??? love it!  | |
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It's on Madonnarama right now and it's one of many publicity shots to promote the new album. | |
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"People always see the evolution of my career as "marketing".I change.I evolve.People cannot understand that,so they put a label on it like "marketing".I call it growing"---Madonna in a new interview with W Magazine.
You tell 'em,Maddy
If Madonna were to get a new tattoo,there are those who would consider it "marketing",or jumping on a trend.Zzzzzz... . . [This message was edited Sat Mar 15 11:11:09 PST 2003 by DavidEye] | |
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DavidEye said: "People always see the evolution of my career as "marketing".I change.I evolve.People cannot understand that,so they put a label on it like "marketing".I call it growing"---Madonna in a new interview with W Magazine.
You tell 'em,Maddy
If Madonna were to get a new tattoo,there are those who would consider it "marketing",or jumping on a trend.Zzzz...  | |
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