purple1968 said:

OlSchool said:

The problem is that for now, this is pretty much a made up list. and they've already started backtracking. Yesterday with Rihanna and today The Rolling Stones denied any boycott or that they heard of the list. One reason why I don't believe any article that cites unnamed sources. Only Stevie Wonder, Mary Mary and The O' Jays said they were boycotting. Frankie Beverly just scheduled a show in St. Petersburg, Fl for September like a week ago. If an artist is going to do something like boycott an entire state, there will be either an official press release or the artist needs to come out and say it themselves.

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What makes you think that other artist are not going to join Stevie Wonder. We will just have to wait and see. I am not surprised that people today do not understand the importance of boycotts to draw attention to issues and effect change.

Uhh. First off I did not say other artists are not going to join the boycott, I said from the begining that this will have more of an impact if bigger names were involved. Go back and read my first response. I simply pointed out that the list was fake and the Huffington Post which was one of the first to report it already started backtracking. Escpecially since one of the artists on the list just scheduled a show in Florida. Those are facts. I also posted another article that pointed out that several representatives from the article confirmed that their artist is not participating in a boycott or have never heard of the list. I also pointed out that if an artist is going to boycott, there should and most likely will be official word from that artist, not a list from what somebody heard. That's common sense. And I hope your "people today" comment was not directed at me because you don't know how old I am.

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From Alicia Keys reps via Mother Jones:

UPDATE (7/23/13, 11:34 p.m. ET): Mother Jones received the following statement from Alicia Keys' representative (Keys is one of the originally listed artists):

We question the validity of this list since Alicia's name along with many others has appeared erroneously.

derrick31 said:

purple1968 said:

When they do go on tour they will boycott Florida. Why is this so hard to understand and who would have a problem with artist boycotting the state because of this law. At least they have the balls to do it.

This is ridiculous. These artists won't skip Florida when they eventually do tour. There are 22 states with the Stand Your Ground law, which by the way had nothing to do with the Zimmerman trial, and they aren't going to pass up all that cash by not playing these states. Many of these artists are talented, but they aren't the brightest bunch of individuals especially if they are signing on with the likes of Al Sharpton.

Stevie said all states with SYG. Eddie Levert and Walter Williams of The O' Jays also said all states with SYG, but their tour is still scheduled to perform in states with SYG. Mary Mary only mentioned Florida.

OlSchool said:

purple1968 said:

What makes you think that other artist are not going to join Stevie Wonder. We will just have to wait and see. I am not surprised that people today do not understand the importance of boycotts to draw attention to issues and effect change.

Uhh. First off I did not say other artists are not going to join the boycott, I said from the begining that this will have more of an impact if bigger names were involved. Go back and read my first response. I simply pointed out that the list was fake and the Huffington Post which was one of the first to report it already started backtracking. Escpecially since one of the artists on the list just scheduled a show in Florida. Those are facts. I also posted another article that pointed out that several representatives from the article confirmed that their artist is not participating in a boycott or have never heard of the list. I also pointed out that if an artist is going to boycott, there should and most likely will be official word from that artist, not a list from what somebody heard. That's common sense. And I hope your "people today" comment was not directed at me because you don't know how old I am.

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Why don't you tell me how old your are? Because while you are stating facts it appears you are doing it to be negative about the idea of boycotting these states. These artist are not going to boycott but it does not mean other artist will not

purple1968 said:

derrick31 said:

This is ridiculous. These artists won't skip Florida when they eventually do tour. There are 22 states with the Stand Your Ground law, which by the way had nothing to do with the Zimmerman trial, and they aren't going to pass up all that cash by not playing these states. Many of these artists are talented, but they aren't the brightest bunch of individuals especially if they are signing on with the likes of Al Sharpton.

You have no idea what artist are going to do. Let's wait and see what happens. I guess some of you are to young to remember all of the artist, businesses and whole countries that boycotted South Africa.

We will see if this generation has some balls.

South Africa was committing human rights violations. Florida has a verdict that some people do not agree with in the United States. This is the type of hyperbolic nonsense that comes out of people's mouths these days. Florida and South Africa have nothing in common except for maybe the climate. Again, these idiot and uninformed entertainers are not going to boycott 22 states. Their record companies won't allow it.

Fuck Stevie Wonder and any other "artist" that goes along with this witch-hunt.

Sucks when some of my favorite artists get caught up in politics.

Lame.

purple1968 said:

OlSchool said:

Uhh. First off I did not say other artists are not going to join the boycott, I said from the begining that this will have more of an impact if bigger names were involved. Go back and read my first response. I simply pointed out that the list was fake and the Huffington Post which was one of the first to report it already started backtracking. Escpecially since one of the artists on the list just scheduled a show in Florida. Those are facts. I also posted another article that pointed out that several representatives from the article confirmed that their artist is not participating in a boycott or have never heard of the list. I also pointed out that if an artist is going to boycott, there should and most likely will be official word from that artist, not a list from what somebody heard. That's common sense. And I hope your "people today" comment was not directed at me because you don't know how old I am.

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Why don't you tell me how old your are? Because while you are stating facts it appears you are doing it to be negative about the idea of boycotting these states. These artist are not going to boycott but it does not mean other artist will not

How did you reach that conclusion? I've already stated my position about the boycott.

So when facts don't support something you support, that means you are being negative against it. Gotcha. I guess it's best to turn a blind eye and pretend things aren't true because you don't want to believe it huh? More like I don't fall for any ol' bullshit. Too many people believe anything without doing their own research. That's one of the problems with the world today.

Again where did I say or imply that other artist were not going to boycott? Please let me know because I don't see it. Someone posted a specific list and I replied to that specific list as it turned out to be false hype. Got it?

And I fail to see what age has to do with this. But feel free to guess a range. Any range.

derrick31 said:

purple1968 said:

You have no idea what artist are going to do. Let's wait and see what happens. I guess some of you are to young to remember all of the artist, businesses and whole countries that boycotted South Africa.

We will see if this generation has some balls.

South Africa was committing human rights violations. Florida has a verdict that some people do not agree with in the United States. This is the type of hyperbolic nonsense that comes out of people's mouths these days. Florida and South Africa have nothing in common except for maybe the climate. Again, these idiot and uninformed entertainers are not going to boycott 22 states. Their record companies won't allow it.

' Their record companies won't allow it.' Seek help !!! People have a right to disagree with the verdict and the laws in the state of Florida. If you do not agree with what is going on you have a right to not spend your money or bring any money into the state. While South Africa and Florida are not the exact same situations people have right to protest in what ever fashion they decide. It is 2013 and people are still such robots without balls that they will go along with anything and get pissed off at people who choose to speak out. This issue is not going to go away because it is unpleasant so if you do not not want to hear about go put your head in the sand.

OlSchool said:

purple1968 said:

Why don't you tell me how old your are? Because while you are stating facts it appears you are doing it to be negative about the idea of boycotting these states. These artist are not going to boycott but it does not mean other artist will not

How did you reach that conclusion? I've already stated my position about the boycott.

So when facts don't support something you support, that means you are being negative against it. Gotcha. I guess it's best to turn a blind eye and pretend things aren't true because you don't want to believe it huh? More like I don't fall for any ol' bullshit. Too many people believe anything without doing their own research. That's one of the problems with the world today.

Again where did I say or imply that other artist were not going to boycott? Please let me know because I don't see it. Someone posted a specific list and I replied to that specific list as it turned out to be false hype. Got it?

And I fail to see what age has to do with this. But feel free to guess a range. Any range.

Because you seem more concerned with the list being fake then with the idea of a boycott.

purple1968 said:

OlSchool said:

How did you reach that conclusion? I've already stated my position about the boycott.

So when facts don't support something you support, that means you are being negative against it. Gotcha. I guess it's best to turn a blind eye and pretend things aren't true because you don't want to believe it huh? More like I don't fall for any ol' bullshit. Too many people believe anything without doing their own research. That's one of the problems with the world today.

Again where did I say or imply that other artist were not going to boycott? Please let me know because I don't see it. Someone posted a specific list and I replied to that specific list as it turned out to be false hype. Got it?

And I fail to see what age has to do with this. But feel free to guess a range. Any range.

Because you seem more concerned with the list being fake then with the idea of a boycott.

What more is there to say about the boycott. I made a couple of comments before and after the list was posted. One of them was saying I know for a fact that one of the artists on it was boycotting. Point is the list should have never been reported as fact in the first place. That's fake hype and does no good for the purpose it's supposed to support. Now you have people all over social media both jumping for joy and getting upset because of it. Shows me how easy people take things reported in the media at face value. Now I'm going to say it again as I did in my first post, I support Stevie and think that this will have a larger impact if bigger names were involved. However if they are just boycotting Florida and not any other SYG states then yes this boycott is a little stupid. Any other gray areas?

OlSchool said:

As I expected...

Florida Boycott List That Included Kanye, Jay Z, Alicia Keys Discredited

By Kia Makarechi Posted: 07/23/2013 4:36 pm EDT | Updated: 07/23/2013 4:38 pm EDT

Representatives for a number of artists on a purported list of musicians and performers boycotting the state of Florida in the wake of the George Zimmerman verdict said Tuesday that their clients have never heard of or been contacted about the list.

American Urban Radio Networks White House correspondent April Ryan first reported the list -- which includes heavyweights like Justin Timberlake, Jay Z, Kanye West, Alicia Keys, Madonna and more -- on Monday and credited it to "sources close to the Stevie Wonder camp." The Huffington Post linked to Ryan's list and noted at the time that representatives for artists were being contacted. Late Monday night, HuffPost sources revealed that Rihanna was not involved, despite being named. MotherJones received word that the Rolling Stones -- who also appear on the list -- had never heard of such a campaign.

Additional representatives on Tuesday confirmed to HuffPost that other boldface names on the the list were not involved, but declined to identify their clients on the record. Denials reached a critical mass that began to shed serious doubt on the veracity of the list. On Tuesday, Ryan posted an update on her website in which she said that representatives of artists named "are uncomfortable being identified on that list."

A similar list had been posted on Instagram and Facebook in advance of Ryan's posting.

HuffPost reached Ryan by phone on Tuesday afternoon, and she said the list came from "very credible sources" who had provided her with accurate information in the past. Ryan said she had not seen the Instagram or other social media posts in advance of publishing the list or her update.

Ryan said she received the the list from sources who were "in support of Stevie" and that it was sent to her via text message "in the middle of the night." She saw the message later on Monday morning.

http://www.huffingtonpost...lp00000003

Kudos to Huffpo for explaining what went down.

SoulAlive said:

Florida is a screwed-up state and not just because of the Stand Your Ground law.If I were a recording artist,I wouldn't want to perform there,either.

Flori-duh is a cesspool.

There was a successful boycott of Miami with no celebrity involvement back in the nineties when the city leaders snubbed Nelson Mandela.

Now and then Flori-duh has to be slapped out of the nineteen fiftiies and we will do it again with or without the star power.

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purple1968 said:

derrick31 said:

South Africa was committing human rights violations. Florida has a verdict that some people do not agree with in the United States. This is the type of hyperbolic nonsense that comes out of people's mouths these days. Florida and South Africa have nothing in common except for maybe the climate. Again, these idiot and uninformed entertainers are not going to boycott 22 states. Their record companies won't allow it.

' Their record companies won't allow it.' Seek help !!! People have a right to disagree with the verdict and the laws in the state of Florida. If you do not agree with what is going on you have a right to not spend your money or bring any money into the state. While South Africa and Florida are not the exact same situations people have right to protest in what ever fashion they decide. It is 2013 and people are still such robots without balls that they will go along with anything and get pissed off at people who choose to speak out. This issue is not going to go away because it is unpleasant so if you do not not want to hear about go put your head in the sand.

Seek help for what? What issue are you saying isn't going away? There is no issue in Florida that warrants a boycott. The entire trial was broadcast on television. No one has ever claimed the trial was unfair and almost every legal analyst stated before the verdict that the prosecution had no case. There just wasn't enough evidence to convict the dude of 2nd degree murder. If you watched the trial objectively, you would have seen that. As far as the artists are concerned, they are under contract, and there is no way this phantom list of artists won't ever play Miami or Orlando again. You and Stevie wonder may just want to find another cause to get pissed off about because this manufactured one has just about ran its course.

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Nevermind

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derrick31 said:

purple1968 said:

' Their record companies won't allow it.' Seek help !!! People have a right to disagree with the verdict and the laws in the state of Florida. If you do not agree with what is going on you have a right to not spend your money or bring any money into the state. While South Africa and Florida are not the exact same situations people have right to protest in what ever fashion they decide. It is 2013 and people are still such robots without balls that they will go along with anything and get pissed off at people who choose to speak out. This issue is not going to go away because it is unpleasant so if you do not not want to hear about go put your head in the sand.

Seek help for what? What issue are you saying isn't going away? There is no issue in Florida that warrants a boycott. The entire trial was broadcast on television. No one has ever claimed the trial was unfair and almost every legal analyst stated before the verdict that the prosecution had no case. There just wasn't enough evidence to convict the dude of 2nd degree murder. If you watched the trial objectively, you would have seen that. As far as the artists are concerned, they are under contract, and there is no way this phantom list of artists won't ever play Miami or Orlando again. You and Stevie wonder may just want to find another cause to get pissed off about because this manufactured one has just about ran its course.

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The Stand Your Ground Law needs to go away. While the law was not used in the trail Zimmerman did use it at first to explain himself to the police who he did not charge him based off of the law at first. The only reason he went to trial is because the Martins raised a fuss. I saw the trial and I am not going to go into with you because there is no reason who could have been found guilty of manslaugter. Artist are free to cancel those shows or in the future just not put Florida on their list of citites to perform in. The idea that anyone would try to tell any artist that they cannot participate in a boycott is crazy. It is not your money that is being lost so to bitch about someone else's choice is bizarre.