Raphel Saadiq

XLBubba said:

I totally agree with you on that one.

Donnie "The Colored Section" www.groovement.com www.giantstep.net

I'd say R. Kelly's by far most important name in R&B. Look at the curent charts alone, his solo successes aside (500k+ in first week on a 2CD set) he wrote and produced:

B2K "Bump Bump Bump"

Ginuwine "Hell Yeah"

Syleena Johnson "Guess What"

Nivea "Laundromat"

D'Angelo is my favourite modern day artist but his lack of regular appearances holds him back in the impact stakes.

Essence said:

Wrong: Rkelly post 12 play has done nothing that has made a greater impact on black music than Saadiq.

Wrong: Sales do not justify, ones importance to music

Wrong: All the songs he produceed sound alike, and probably took one day to make.

If you still cant see and hear the impact Voodoo has had on modern black music, then you need your ears re-examined.

Saadiq is very important in the perservance of black music.

Sure, rkelly is important; in the destruction of morals and stunted growth as a muscian.

groovement said:

Dude sucks, and sounds like other stevie wannabes, and he is not that important. He can not do anything that will put shockwaves through r and b.

Essence said:

In my opinion, R. Kelly is not that important to today R&B music. Popular does not equal good. Most of the songs you mention are fluff with the exception of Syleena Johnson.

XLBubba said:

Well "important" is a relative term. I'd take either D'Angelo album over any R. Kelly one, however I don't see how we can grade importance in R&B in any way other than controlling the genre, which R. Kelly no doubt continues to do to this day. Personally I don't see R's peak until 1995 and beyond, 12 Play wasn't it IMO.

You didn't ask who's best or who's most talented you asked who's most important name in R&B right now, industry terms of important = popularity and influence. This is R.

2 ME? Then here's the list:

-Mary J blige

-Syleena Johnson(Good pick Essence,,check her 1st LP,,the new one is the follow up of the debut one in terms of the concept)

-Rahpael Saadiq

-R.Kelly

-Truth Hurts

-Tweet

well...DA SILVA
/peace manki

I love me some Saadiq, moreso his work with D than TTT and even like his much criticised solo album. To call him most important person in R&B is way off base though IMO, hell he doesn't even have an album deal now after his album flopped, nobody is checking for him which while I feel it's a shame who his importantance suffers as a result...

well, if i was to name the most influential people in hip hop/r&b, i should have to pick the producers. people like timbaland, the neptunes and dr.dre are ruling the airwaves with their typical hip hop/r&b sound.

U R...

purpleone said:

Right, those more appropriate names for this thread title. R. Kelly, Neptunez etc...

thinking...

India Arie

Floetry

Musiq Soulchild

Erykah Badu

Jill Scott (smile if u beg to differ)

Maxwell

D'angelo

Raphel Sadiq

Missey Elliot

Angie Stone

Brian Mcknight

I would say Alicia Keys, but she's just to commerical
[This message was edited Wed Mar 12 14:53:27 PST 2003 by DigitalLisa]

R.Kelly in a Breeze.Sales do Matter&Influence does as well.He brings it as a Writer&producer.not only for other People but for His own Stuff&still Rolling 12 years later in the Game.R.Kelly Bridges R&B,Pop&Hip-Hop with overall Presentation&flow. Now I also dig Maxwell,D'angelo,Mary J.Bliege,Raphel Sadiq&some others are Cool but R.Kelly gets "IT" at doing it the Right way as a Complete Artist.He is DA KING OF MODERN R&B IMHO

Essence said:

He just won a grammy.
Was nominated in 8 cats for a grammy.
He is producing a very highly antciapted album, by dangelo.
He is producing an album for this girl called Skyy or something.
No, it is not way off base. He helped produced the most important album of this decade with Voodoo.
He is the most important, because if it was not for Voodoo, I can name 30 people who would still be on American Idol.

DigitalLisa said:

XLBubba said:

I thought they all where trying to sound like Prince

Including Saadiq

XLBubba said:

He just won a grammy.
Was nominated in 8 cats for a grammy.
He is producing a very highly antciapted album, by dangelo.
He is producing an album for this girl called Skyy or something.
No, it is not way off base. He helped produced the most important album of this decade with Voodoo.
He is the most important, because if it was not for Voodoo, I can name 30 people who would still be on American Idol.[/quote]

**He was nominated 5-times* Still says alot about the cat...

DigitalLisa said:

He did play on tour with Prince or something like that.

Babyface- still one of the best singer-songwriters today. His song The Color of Love which he wrote for Boyz 2 Men I felt was one of his best and I thought was greatly overlooked by people.

Amerie- I really enjoyed her album and thought it was an impressive debut and thought she deserved more recognition.

Tyrese- I like his new album and I think we haven't seen nothing yet from this incredible singer.

Brian McKnight- He's still the man, can't wait for the new album.
[This message was edited Thu Mar 13 1:09:22 PST 2003 by Biscuit]

The crown belongs to D'Angelo.Now if he would only lay claim to it.

Clive Davis. as he has been for the last 2 decades.

Ronald Isley came on 106&park&gave it up for R.Kelly.now for a Legend like Ronald Isley to speak Highly of R.Kelly speaks Volumes IMHO because Ronald Isley is Among the Whose Who of Music as we know it in the Pop Spectrum IMHO.R.Kelly is doing the whole Next Isley Album&they are suppose to Tour Together.Two Kings Holding it Down.

I should have known better than to discus R&B with a BUBBA

I would say D'Angelo due to the fact he is one REAL R&B act that can get some play. That said it just might be Raphel Saadiq because he is going to be the one that makes it happen for D if he can keep his ass in the studio. Others on my list would be Maxwell, who I feel has some great work ahead of him and Remy Shand.