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Thread started 06/14/13 3:53pm

Gunsnhalen

Yeezus Leaked Today

First off if you are not a fan then... go to another thread and let the actual fans talk about the album lol

Track By Track review

1. On Sight- A weird way to start the album... hardcore electronic song with some cool changes but it was way to short. 3.5/5

2. Black Skinhead- The live version was a lot more aggresive and i liked the screams this version was a lot more tame confused But the lyrics are good and i can understand them a lot better in this version not as good as the live version but i really like it. 5/5
3. I Am A God- I Am A God- This song really bumps! has those industrial synths and screams sounds like a mix between a Marilyn Manson song and Kid A era Radiohead electronica. 5/5

4. New Slaves- Great lyrics and production! one of his deepest songs and best produced the beat is fantastic 5/5

5. Hold My Liquor- Pretty good bass on this one! track is a grower had to listen to it a few times before i dug it and i HATE Chief Keef but he was alright on the track. 4.5/5

6. I'm In It- This song is alright the lyrics are meh... the song sounds dark and had has an 808's feel it pumps but a little weaker than the other tacks 4/5

7. Blood On The Leaves- YES!!! One of the best songs Kanye has ever done! the lyrics are great, the sample of Billie Holidays Strange Fruit was fantastic and the breakdown was EVERYTHING. 5/5

8. Guilt Trip- As suspected this is like Blame Game pt.2 he even uses some of the voice tempo changing he did in Blame. But i really like the beat and i always love his emotional songs and this one is a great mix of 808 and MBDTF era sound... plus it is catchy as hell! But Kid Cudi please PLEASE stop singing... PLEASE 4.5/5

9. Send It Up- Had to listen to this a few times cause it sounded kind of unfinished but it for real sounds like an elector noise rock hybrid so i kind of dig that. But the King-l rap is meh 4/5

10. Bound 2- This is definitely a tribute to The College Dropout era and has that sped up soul sample beat that Kanye used to do a lot. An interesting way to close the album and i really dug it cool 5/5

I think in the end it is a good but flawed album that i will have to listen to a few times and maybe let some tracks grow on me. I admire he made a punk-rap album and it continued his experimental sounds! it was a good end to the trilogy of album from 808's to now.

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[Edited 6/14/13 16:05pm]

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Reply #1 posted 06/14/13 4:10pm

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http://www.rollingstone.com/music/albumreviews/yeezus-20130614

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Reply #2 posted 06/14/13 5:31pm

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7. Blood On The Leaves- YES!!! One of the best songs Kanye has ever done! the lyrics are great, the sample of Billie Holidays Strange Fruit was fantastic and the breakdown was EVERYTHING. 5/5 THIS TRACK SLAYS Everything on the CD

1. On Sight- A weird way to start the album... hardcore electronic song with some cool changes but it was way to short. 3.5/5

9. Send It Up- Had to listen to this a few times cause it sounded kind of unfinished but it for real sounds like an elector noise rock hybrid so i kind of dig that. But the King-l rap is meh 4/5

all three on repeat

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Reply #3 posted 06/14/13 6:33pm

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getxxxx said:

7. Blood On The Leaves- YES!!! One of the best songs Kanye has ever done! the lyrics are great, the sample of Billie Holidays Strange Fruit was fantastic and the breakdown was EVERYTHING. 5/5 THIS TRACK SLAYS Everything on the CD

1. On Sight- A weird way to start the album... hardcore electronic song with some cool changes but it was way to short. 3.5/5

9. Send It Up- Had to listen to this a few times cause it sounded kind of unfinished but it for real sounds like an elector noise rock hybrid so i kind of dig that. But the King-l rap is meh 4/5

all three on repeat

Agree! by far the best track on the album by miles.

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Reply #4 posted 06/14/13 8:04pm

dancerella

Guns, thanks for the review. I seriously can't wait to hear this album. It sounds like it's dope as hell. I'm gonna post my thoughts after I've heard it. cool

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Reply #5 posted 06/15/13 4:57am

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I didn't want to like it because I think he's a cunt. But it's pretty dope so far. The jerk.

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Reply #6 posted 06/15/13 8:21am

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SchlomoThaHomo said:

I didn't want to like it because I think he's a cunt. But it's pretty dope so far. The jerk.

lol nod

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Reply #7 posted 06/15/13 8:49am

steakfinger

Lyrics are lame. 300 was the Greeks, not Romans. The Trojans to which he's referring are inspired by the Trojan horse, also Greek. Production is murky throughout just like the last one. Sounds like a wet towel over the speakers. I like that he's not afraid to be weird, but the art has to be cool, too. This record is interesting, but he's not a god of anything, most of all lyrics.

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Reply #8 posted 06/15/13 10:43am

Gunsnhalen

steakfinger said:

Lyrics are lame. 300 was the Greeks, not Romans. The Trojans to which he's referring are inspired by the Trojan horse, also Greek. Production is murky throughout just like the last one. Sounds like a wet towel over the speakers. I like that he's not afraid to be weird, but the art has to be cool, too. This record is interesting, but he's not a god of anything, most of all lyrics.

The lyrics in I'm In It made me smh eek

I love New Slaves and Blood On The Leaves their very deep and have great production. But then I'm In it is all like eating ass and fisting girls neutral i mean i like eating ass but i don't wanna hear yeezy talk about it lol

So i love some of the lyrics but i agree some are.... just... meh.

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Reply #9 posted 06/15/13 10:45am

Gunsnhalen

The album is growing on me i even kind of like On Sight a bit more smile but i'm in it just makes me laugh everytime and not in a good way lol

Send It Up is a noisy mess and i still am mixed on it.

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Reply #10 posted 06/15/13 11:17am

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Yeezus by Death Grips Kanye West

He was definitely influenced by Death Grips

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Reply #11 posted 06/15/13 11:17am

V10LETBLUES

Listening now. Sounds like something from ten years ago. From far better artists. When this sound was fresh. and ORIGINAL!

That's the thing with Kanye. I like him, yet he has never been original. That's the diffrence to being great or A GREAT.

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Reply #12 posted 06/15/13 12:25pm

Emancipation89

I was kinda hoping Kanye would dial back a little to the Late Registration days where tracks didn't sound so over produced. I'm on track 5 now and not exactly blown away..will listen the rest of the album later.

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Reply #13 posted 06/15/13 12:30pm

CynicKill

So is this a case of the new and reigning KING?

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mbfyfjIj8E1ql5diio1_500.png

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Reply #14 posted 06/15/13 3:32pm

Gunsnhalen

CynicKill said:

So is this a case of the new and reigning KING?

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mbfyfjIj8E1ql5diio1_500.png

I like ocean but he is barely on the album i mean BARELY lol

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Reply #15 posted 06/15/13 9:42pm

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It leaked and its complete garbage
The greatest live performer of our times was is and always will be Prince.

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Reply #16 posted 06/16/13 12:44am

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I liked the album. Not so much as MBDTF and 808s and Heartbreak, but I did. I think he's very talented. Sorry, the ones who hate him. But I do. I dont thinks he's obviously on the same league as popular music's master talents like Prince, and needless to say, non-Popular music talents. But he's good. In a dj/producing/sample vein of artists, and you can put 98% of electronic music there, but it's a part of popular music as wells. With different standards of evaluation, but it is. Its undeniable his talent to blend diff genres, samples and influences in creating new different (and original) aesthetics. And some songs like Runaway shows clearly he has also the capacity of growing a great pop melody for himself, aside the collages.

I've been listening and digging a lot of 80s chicago house music lately, it's a form of artistry not far from his. It's collage, but it's the emergence of a new sound aesthetic, from music made before. Of course it takes a great deal of effort and intuition do be done right, no collage can reach artistry for itself. It takes some talent. And there you have it.

This new record seems to be reinventing 90s industrial rock, for many of the songs. It's creative, for sure. And not something you could expect normally from the hip hop medium AT ALL. Actually, just after I listened Yeezus, I took a full listen on Eminem's last album, Recovery. I like Not Afraid, but, besides, there's really nothing new and truly creative on it. I loved the Marshall Mathers album, but that album is 12 years old. Kanye's been constantly creative and every album's been different.

Favorite songs from Yeezus: I Am God and Black Skinhead.

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Reply #17 posted 06/16/13 5:13am

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SchlomoThaHomo said:

I didn't want to like it because I think he's a cunt. But it's pretty dope so far. The jerk.

falloff

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Reply #18 posted 06/16/13 7:08am

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Tracks I'm feeling so far:

I Am A God

New Slaves

Blood On the Leaves

Guilt Trip

Bound

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Reply #19 posted 06/16/13 7:35am

Cotontige

I really like it so far, I don't think it will stand the test of time but its a really good and innovative rap album. I like the little dancehall nod here and there

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Reply #20 posted 06/16/13 2:05pm

V10LETBLUES

The mainstream press is giving it good reviews. Though, mainstream reviews do not mean much now adays. Or rather less than ever. I put greater weight to a review from a good blog than an agenda puckering mainstream music site any day.


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Reply #21 posted 06/17/13 9:24am

RodeoSchro

I tried. I really did. But...

duh ill barf barf barf barf

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Reply #22 posted 06/17/13 9:27am

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smoothcriminal12 said:

SchlomoThaHomo said:

I didn't want to like it because I think he's a cunt. But it's pretty dope so far. The jerk.

falloff

Quinton that is almost identical to your reaction to Cruel Summer lol "it's *sighhh* dope" haha like we are defeated to keep giving him props.

"Bound 2"

"Blood On The Leaves"

"Hold My Liquor"

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Reply #23 posted 06/17/13 9:28am

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I was surprised that all the NIN sounding tracks were the Daft Punk ones! I guess this is the OTHA side to their sunny 1979 vibe of Random Access Memories.

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Reply #24 posted 06/17/13 6:21pm

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Cinny said:

smoothcriminal12 said:

falloff

Quinton that is almost identical to your reaction to Cruel Summer lol "it's *sighhh* dope" haha like we are defeated to keep giving him props.

"Bound 2"

"Blood On The Leaves"

"Hold My Liquor"

lol He's such an ass but I can't lie, the album has really grown on me. (my initial reaction wasn't too favorable.) Really strong album. Blood on the Leaves is just wooooah. eek

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Reply #25 posted 06/17/13 6:54pm

CynicKill

Kanye West’s sex problem

On "Yeezus," the rapper's still bragging about exploiting women to make his points. He's smarter than that

Topics: Kanye West, Kanye, yeezus, Sex, Music, Entertainment News

Kanye West's sex problemKanye West arrives at the Metropolitan Museum of Art Costume Institute gala benefit, in New York, May 2012. (AP Photo/Charles Sykes, File) (Credit: Charles Sykes)

Kanye West is about as subtle as a Range Rover. From the pink-Polo prep of debut “College Dropout” to 2010′s ominous “My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy,” each of his albums has arrived with the force and presence of a runaway train, crashing over anything in sight. He has evolved from a producer with a chip on his shoulder to rap royalty through constant challenge and innovation. Kanye has a penchant for drama, unfortunately for Taylor Swift, but he also has the musical prowess to back his swagger. But an obsession with making his point by denigrating women continues to blunt his impact.

In an interview with the New York Times, the Chicago-bred rapper indicated that his sixth album, “Yeezus,” would provide articulate commentary on race, a subject that he first tackled in “College Dropout’s” “All Falls Down.” A “Saturday Night Live” preview of album cut “New Slaves” demonstrated bold, anti-pop beats rallying against privately owned prisons. It was a perfect opportunity to start a real conversation. Kanye has the audience, he has the gravitas, and he has the intelligence to make people actually listen.

So it was a “Yeezus”-size fireball that hurled onto the Internet Friday as, days before its June 18 release date, the album leaked. Grimy industrial beats and studies in minimalism are an incredible leap for an artist who errs toward tracking indulgence, and the album’s been viewed, again, as game-changing. But where the production excels, the lyrics water down the album’s importance. Kanye boldly and unapologetically tackles race relations. He’s not trying to make anyone feel comfortable about the institutionalized racism that is particularly rampant in the upper classes. But you can only discern this message amid a triggering, pornographic album that becomes no less bruising in subsequent listens.

Perceived misogyny in rap should always be viewed with the historical connection of race and gender in mind. The two are inextricably bound, and the frank nature of rap often makes it the poster child for sexism in music. But these attitudes exist in every sphere of music, just as they do in every social group. With that in mind, it makes less sense to single out Kanye for sexism than to consider how it impacts his particular artistic mission. And the problem with “Yeezus”-brand misogyny is that it comes in the form of egregiously perverse asides that largely detract from the central message.

One of the tropes in “Yeezus’” lyrical analysis is the sexual politics of race. It surfaces in his fantasy revenge on the wives of the Hamptons in “New Slaves.”

“Fuck you and your Hampton house, I’ll fuck your Hampton spouse,

Came on her Hampton blouse and in her Hampton mouth.”

There’s a way to deal with the history of power plays between black and white men without reducing women into a vessel for revenge. Yes, Kanye has almost certainly faced an ugly form of racism for his relationship with Kim Kardashian. Yes, this is absolutely a problem. But what begins as a lambasting of the prison-industrial complex loses its foothold when it wanders into crass depictions of sexual domination. Kanye spits like a teenager bragging about sick payback. He describes taking a woman as a conquest, uses her as nothing more than a means to a self-congratulatory end. It ultimately sullies the message.

This race-sex trope surfaces as early as first track “On Sight,” and in an uncomfortable way.

“Black Timbs all on your couch again,

Black dick all in your spouse again,

And I know she like chocolate men,

She got more n*ggas off than Cochran.”

It’s hard to divorce this from the idea that he is talking about his girlfriend and the mother of his child, whom he impregnated while she was still legally married to Kris Humphries (thus the spouse reference). The double entendre involving “chocolate men” and lawyer Johnnie Cochran, likely a reference to Kim’s dating history, would be a superfluous and sexist remark aimed at anyone, let alone the woman who brought his little girl into the world the day after the leak. Sure, airing public tension is not treading new ground musically, but politicizing your girlfriend’s dating and sexual exploits to do so adds little to the discussion.

The argument of “Yeezus” gets further distorted when sexual domination resurfaces completely out of context. “Bound 2″ details more X-rated relations in a song that otherwise candidly captures the difficulty of navigating relationships. But it’s the sex-crazed halfway marker “I’m in It,” which juxtaposes the civil rights movement and, you guessed it, sexualizing women, that is the most visceral and self-serving: the civil rights sign used in perverse sexual acts, and a woman loosening her bra met with a bastardized proclamation of “free at last, thank God almighty, they free at last.” These sex scenes never serve an actual point in the context of racial struggle, ringing as braggart rather than revolutionary. The social critiques introduced by second track “Black Skinhead” (“They see a black man with a white woman, at the top floor they gone come to kill King Kong”) are so muddled in sexual exploitation by this point that it’s hard to view the song as provocative commentary.

Kanye is getting fired up about the right things, but in order to properly get his message across he needs to check an ever-inflating ego. Making his value known through sexual power still seems more important to him than starting conversations. Five platinum albums should be proof that we’re listening. We’d like to hear it again without the Fifty Shades of Kanye.

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Reply #26 posted 06/17/13 7:37pm

SchlomoThaHomo

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so is the baby the first single then?

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Reply #27 posted 06/17/13 11:44pm

Gunsnhalen

CynicKill said:

Kanye West’s sex problem

On "Yeezus," the rapper's still bragging about exploiting women to make his points. He's smarter than that

Topics: Kanye West, Kanye, yeezus, Sex, Music, Entertainment News

Kanye West's sex problemKanye West arrives at the Metropolitan Museum of Art Costume Institute gala benefit, in New York, May 2012. (AP Photo/Charles Sykes, File) (Credit: Charles Sykes)

Kanye West is about as subtle as a Range Rover. From the pink-Polo prep of debut “College Dropout” to 2010′s ominous “My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy,” each of his albums has arrived with the force and presence of a runaway train, crashing over anything in sight. He has evolved from a producer with a chip on his shoulder to rap royalty through constant challenge and innovation. Kanye has a penchant for drama, unfortunately for Taylor Swift, but he also has the musical prowess to back his swagger. But an obsession with making his point by denigrating women continues to blunt his impact.

In an interview with the New York Times, the Chicago-bred rapper indicated that his sixth album, “Yeezus,” would provide articulate commentary on race, a subject that he first tackled in “College Dropout’s” “All Falls Down.” A “Saturday Night Live” preview of album cut “New Slaves” demonstrated bold, anti-pop beats rallying against privately owned prisons. It was a perfect opportunity to start a real conversation. Kanye has the audience, he has the gravitas, and he has the intelligence to make people actually listen.

So it was a “Yeezus”-size fireball that hurled onto the Internet Friday as, days before its June 18 release date, the album leaked. Grimy industrial beats and studies in minimalism are an incredible leap for an artist who errs toward tracking indulgence, and the album’s been viewed, again, as game-changing. But where the production excels, the lyrics water down the album’s importance. Kanye boldly and unapologetically tackles race relations. He’s not trying to make anyone feel comfortable about the institutionalized racism that is particularly rampant in the upper classes. But you can only discern this message amid a triggering, pornographic album that becomes no less bruising in subsequent listens.

Perceived misogyny in rap should always be viewed with the historical connection of race and gender in mind. The two are inextricably bound, and the frank nature of rap often makes it the poster child for sexism in music. But these attitudes exist in every sphere of music, just as they do in every social group. With that in mind, it makes less sense to single out Kanye for sexism than to consider how it impacts his particular artistic mission. And the problem with “Yeezus”-brand misogyny is that it comes in the form of egregiously perverse asides that largely detract from the central message.

One of the tropes in “Yeezus’” lyrical analysis is the sexual politics of race. It surfaces in his fantasy revenge on the wives of the Hamptons in “New Slaves.”

“Fuck you and your Hampton house, I’ll fuck your Hampton spouse,

Came on her Hampton blouse and in her Hampton mouth.”

There’s a way to deal with the history of power plays between black and white men without reducing women into a vessel for revenge. Yes, Kanye has almost certainly faced an ugly form of racism for his relationship with Kim Kardashian. Yes, this is absolutely a problem. But what begins as a lambasting of the prison-industrial complex loses its foothold when it wanders into crass depictions of sexual domination. Kanye spits like a teenager bragging about sick payback. He describes taking a woman as a conquest, uses her as nothing more than a means to a self-congratulatory end. It ultimately sullies the message.

This race-sex trope surfaces as early as first track “On Sight,” and in an uncomfortable way.

“Black Timbs all on your couch again,

Black dick all in your spouse again,

And I know she like chocolate men,

She got more n*ggas off than Cochran.”

It’s hard to divorce this from the idea that he is talking about his girlfriend and the mother of his child, whom he impregnated while she was still legally married to Kris Humphries (thus the spouse reference). The double entendre involving “chocolate men” and lawyer Johnnie Cochran, likely a reference to Kim’s dating history, would be a superfluous and sexist remark aimed at anyone, let alone the woman who brought his little girl into the world the day after the leak. Sure, airing public tension is not treading new ground musically, but politicizing your girlfriend’s dating and sexual exploits to do so adds little to the discussion.

The argument of “Yeezus” gets further distorted when sexual domination resurfaces completely out of context. “Bound 2″ details more X-rated relations in a song that otherwise candidly captures the difficulty of navigating relationships. But it’s the sex-crazed halfway marker “I’m in It,” which juxtaposes the civil rights movement and, you guessed it, sexualizing women, that is the most visceral and self-serving: the civil rights sign used in perverse sexual acts, and a woman loosening her bra met with a bastardized proclamation of “free at last, thank God almighty, they free at last.” These sex scenes never serve an actual point in the context of racial struggle, ringing as braggart rather than revolutionary. The social critiques introduced by second track “Black Skinhead” (“They see a black man with a white woman, at the top floor they gone come to kill King Kong”) are so muddled in sexual exploitation by this point that it’s hard to view the song as provocative commentary.

Kanye is getting fired up about the right things, but in order to properly get his message across he needs to check an ever-inflating ego. Making his value known through sexual power still seems more important to him than starting conversations. Five platinum albums should be proof that we’re listening. We’d like to hear it again without the Fifty Shades of Kanye.

They have a point... I'm In It really turns the album down a notch after I Am A God and New Slaves... even Hold My Liquor was alright.


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Reply #28 posted 06/18/13 12:31am

aardvark15

nod nod nod nod Finally took a listen to the album. Much better than I was expected following the album he made with Jay-Z.
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Reply #29 posted 06/18/13 12:44am

Gunsnhalen

For those fellow audio nerds the itunes version of Yeezus has some slight interesting differences from the leaked and physical copy. New slaves has a more clear distortion in the vocal part near the middle and the screams on Black Skinhead are mixed a little better. I Am a God - "Y'all better quit playing with god" -cut out background noise and the bass is a little more banging.

The itunes version is probably the best to purchase! the mixing is a lot better overall.

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