Justin Timberlink is holding on to the the #1 spot on the Billboard R&B Albums charts and Robin Thicke is planted in the #1 spot on the R&B Singles charts. Has that ever happened before?

George Michael maybe.

CynicKill said:

George Michael maybe.

I could be wrong but I don't think he held the number one spot on both the Albums & Singles chart at the same time on the R&B side.

Modern R&B Sucks so,

there's nothing wrong with letting some wannabe's of wannabe's Rule the charts..

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kitbradley said:

CynicKill said:

George Michael maybe.

I could be wrong but I don't think he held the number one spot on both the Albums & Singles chart at the same time on the R&B side.

Faith and "One More Try" were #1 on the R&B charts 25 years ago this week.

AlexdeParis said:

kitbradley said:

I could be wrong but I don't think he held the number one spot on both the Albums & Singles chart at the same time on the R&B side.

Faith and "One More Try" were #1 on the R&B charts 25 years ago this week.

Oh, okay. I wasn't sure but I knew both were #1 R&B but I wasn't sure whether it was at the same time or not.

EMPEROR101 said:

Modern R&B Sucks so,

there's nothing wrong with letting some wannabe's of wannabe's Rule the charts..

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Yep! And I still don't understand why they insist on having an R&B/Hip Hop Album chart. They should both be separate. There are veteran R&B artists who are releasing albums that aren't even charting because there are so many Rap albums on the chart, there is no room for them. And I believe the R&B Album chart only has 50 positions? Versus the Top 200 on the Pop side?

Who cares what color they are?

So much for 'post racial' America.

Stymie said:

Who cares what color they are?

Obviously, a lot of people still care about color. Have you been to the policial section to read about the black woman who applied for over 300 jobs and couldn't get anyone to give her the time of day until she decided to apply as a white woman and then she was inundated with responses from employers? There ain't no such thing as post racial america and never will be. That only exist in fairytale land.

kitbradley said:

Stymie said:

Who cares what color they are?

Obviously, a lot of people still care about color. Have you been to the policial section to read about the black woman who applied for over 300 jobs and couldn't get anyone to give her the time of day until she decided to apply as a white woman and then she was inundated with responses from employers? There ain't no such thing as post racial america and never will be. That only exist in fairytale land.

Okay let me phrase it a different way? Why do YOU care what color they are?

Stymie said:

kitbradley said:

Obviously, a lot of people still care about color. Have you been to the policial section to read about the black woman who applied for over 300 jobs and couldn't get anyone to give her the time of day until she decided to apply as a white woman and then she was inundated with responses from employers? There ain't no such thing as post racial america and never will be. That only exist in fairytale land.

Okay let me phrase it a different way? Why do YOU care what color they are?

I don't give a rat's behind what color they are. I was just pointing out a FACT that two white guys are topping the R&B charts, it was unusual and asking has that ever happened before? Why is it when someone points out Joe Blow is the first black woman/man to do such-and-such it's fine but when it's the opposite, someone wants to twist it into something racial? Justin and Robin are white, right? They aren't Plaid. So exactly what was wrong with what I said?

kitbradley said:

Stymie said:

Okay let me phrase it a different way? Why do YOU care what color they are?

I don't give a rat's behind what color they are. I was just pointing out a FACT that two white guys are topping the R&B charts, it was unusual and asking has that ever happened before? Why is it when someone points out Joe Blow is the first black woman/man to do such-and-such it's fine but when it's the opposite, someone wants to twist it into something racial? Justin and Robin are white, right? They aren't Plaid. So exactly what was wrong with what I said?

Dude calm down. It's not that serious. I asked because I don't tend to think of people in terms of race. I don't think of R&B as black charts and pop as white charts. Black people sit atop the pop charts and no one asks: black men kings of the pop charts?

Stymie said:

kitbradley said:

I don't give a rat's behind what color they are. I was just pointing out a FACT that two white guys are topping the R&B charts, it was unusual and asking has that ever happened before? Why is it when someone points out Joe Blow is the first black woman/man to do such-and-such it's fine but when it's the opposite, someone wants to twist it into something racial? Justin and Robin are white, right? They aren't Plaid. So exactly what was wrong with what I said?

Dude calm down. It's not that serious. I asked because I don't tend to think of people in terms of race. I don't think of R&B as black charts and pop as white charts. Black people sit atop the pop charts and no one asks: black men kings of the pop charts?

I'm cool. It just came across that perhaps you were insinuating that I was taking issue with white men topping R&B charts. It's good that you don't think of people in terms of race. You are in the minority. So many people claim that they don't see others in terms of race/sex/orientation/etc, but often times, their actions speak differently.

Why even start this thread? it is just going to turn into another fucking org discussion about race.

Where is timmy84 when you need him...

Music is color blind.. white people can make r&b and be successfull and black people can make rock or pop and be successful.

End of story.

i know you were just asking if this ever happened and i am not trying to be mean... it is just the org seems sensitive about these topics like in the metal forums i frequent people catch feelings if an all black metal band is given all the spotlight.

Sigh why can't people just let music and every genre be color blind -.-

music CAN be color-blind.... I just wish the rest of society could be too

I'm black but don't care if the #1 album/single on the R&B charts is by a black artists or white. Why does it matter?

If the music is good that all I care for. If it sucks it sucks... if its good its good. That's all that really matters...

http://prince.org/msg/8/350856

Stymie said:

kitbradley said:

I don't give a rat's behind what color they are. I was just pointing out a FACT that two white guys are topping the R&B charts, it was unusual and asking has that ever happened before? Why is it when someone points out Joe Blow is the first black woman/man to do such-and-such it's fine but when it's the opposite, someone wants to twist it into something racial? Justin and Robin are white, right? They aren't Plaid. So exactly what was wrong with what I said?

Dude calm down. It's not that serious. I asked because I don't tend to think of people in terms of race. I don't think of R&B as black charts and pop as white charts. Black people sit atop the pop charts and no one asks: black men kings of the pop charts?

Pop is every type of music form. It'a no secret that R&B is geared toward the black crowd and rock towards the white crowd. Is that wrong to say because we all know it's the truth?

Gunsnhalen said:

Why even start this thread? it is just going to turn into another fucking org discussion about race.

Where is timmy84 when you need him...

Music is color blind.. white people can make r&b and be successfull and black people can make rock or pop and be successful.

End of story.

i know you were just asking if this ever happened and i am not trying to be mean... it is just the org seems sensitive about these topics like in the metal forums i frequent people catch feelings if an all black metal band is given all the spotlight.

Sigh why can't people just let music and every genre be color blind -.-

Rock is seen today as a white genre yet Ike Turner, Chuck Berry, and Little Richard are three of it's biggest influences and starters. One of the artists the 3 influenced was none other than Jimi Hendrix, a black man who's seen as a rock legend. Disco was seen as a black genre yet the Bee Gees became one of it's biggest stars (Possibly the biggest) and ABBA made one of the most well known songs from the era. One of the biggest influences on the rising hip-hop scene was synth pop which was done mostly by white men. Prince went from a man played just on R&B stations and in dance clubs to a man who was also played on rock stations. Michael Jackson managed to get his rock song Beat It (featuring a guitar solo by Eddie Van Halen) on top of the R&B charts for weeks. George Michael was rapping on chart hits in the U.K. while it was still underground in most of the world. David Bowie's 2nd top 40 hit was an R&B song written with Luther Vandross while his 3rd top 40 hit (a number one hit) was a funk song. His 4th top 40 hit was also a funk song and Bowie went on Soul Train to perform it. Elton John also went on the show. Music is race-less, it's sad that fans of one of it's most versatile performers can't see it.

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Stymie said:

I don't think of R&B as black charts and pop as white charts.

Apparently Billboard does, because in the 1980's the R&B chart was called "Hot Black Singles" & "Top Black Albums". Even today Billboard has "Hot Latin Songs", "Latin Pop Songs" & "Top Latin Albums". There's a Latin Grammys as well.

People saying shit like this is why people mad

thebanishedone said:

Never ever will white people be better inagenres of music where you have amazing legends like Luther Vandeross, Teddy Pendergrass, Al Green and so many other.of course there are exceptions like Teena Marie

thebanishedone said:

And black people invented rock music.too bad they left it white people

aardvark15 said:

Music is race-less.

Music from non-western countries is called "world music", which to me makes it sounds like it's some kind of "exotic third world" music that is marketed to yuppies or less important. I've never understood the term "world music" (or "third world" for that matter) as all music on earth is made in the world. The media will make a big deal about it if Paul Simon or Peter Gabriel records it, and their songs got played on the radio, and get awards. But the performers who make the music as a living don't get the same kind of attention. It's like people in non-English countries will listen to music from the USA, even if they don't know the language, and some songs will become hits in their country. But songs not in English rarely became hits in the US. It's kinda odd that old R&B/soul/funk records get more attention in Japan than in the US, and are out of print and many have never been on CD, and you have to buy an import.

JasonWill1980 said:

music CAN be color-blind.... I just wish the rest of society could be too

Music can be (and should be) color blind. But, the music industry will never allow it. As long as all of these categories exists (especially those meant to seperate and marketed by race), music will always have a color.

aardvark15 said:

thebanishedone said:

aardvark15 said:

People saying shit like this is why people mad

OH really? What if i am a white person who says that black do it mu h better

It's still a ridiculous comment

MickyDolenz said:

Stymie said:

I don't think of R&B as black charts and pop as white charts.

Apparently Billboard does, because in the 1980's the R&B chart was called "Hot Black Singles" & "Top Black Albums". Even today Billboard has "Hot Latin Songs", "Latin Pop Songs" & "Top Latin Albums". There's a Latin Grammys as well.

Exactly! It wasn't until 1990 that they put "R&B" in the name. R&B is historically geared toward and created in larger numbers by blacks. That's nothing new. Seems like the OP was just asking a harmless question.

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