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Thread started 05/29/13 8:18am

Gunsnhalen

So Now Lauryn Hill Is A Homophobe

Guess it comes as no suprise since she think's her and GOD are right hand homies.

I never listened to every single word on that whack ass new song but now i am officially tired of her.

Lauryn has alienated yet another large group of her fans with... cause she does have a rather big homosexual following.

i am still a fan of Lauryn and have been since i was young but i wouldn't call myself a big fan anymore.

Lauryn Hill accused of hating gay people in new song

American singer, rapper and actor blames society crumbling on 'girl men', 'drag queens', and 'social transvestism'
Lauryn Hill is being accused of having anti-LGBT lyrics in her new song 'Neurotic Society'.

American singer, rapper and actress Lauryn Hill is making some new enemies, and for once they do not include the Internal Revenue Service.

She is now being accused of having anti-LGBT lyrics in her new song ‘Neurotic Society’, released three days before she went to jail for tax evasion.

In a list of examples of how society is crumbling around her, Hill blames ‘social transvestism’, ‘drag queens’ and a lyric people are interpreting as ‘girl men’.

According to Hill, they are just as bad as ‘pimps’, ‘pushers’, and ‘serial criminals’.

Monica Miller at BET.com has accused the singer of responding to one social ill by perpetuating another.

She states: ‘Whether or not Hill is merely using these comments as examples of the smokescreens and sleight-of-hands that pervade this 'Neurotic Society' is unclear.

‘Beyond intention, these sorts of statements suggest that society is in a shambles because it’s been taking too many cues from the LGBTQ community, acting like “girl men,” “drag queens” and “transvestites.”

‘Is her beef with oppressive society or is her issue with people who don’t abide by a traditional family structure?’

Out Magazine’s Andrew Belonsky agrees, saying the ‘drag queens’ line comes immediately after a smear against ‘pride fiends’ – as in the people who attend Gay Pride events.

Some say the line ‘girl men’ could also be interpreted as ‘guru men’, he notes, so that line could not be homophobic at all.

Either way, she’s definitely come a long way from Sister Act 2.

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Reply #1 posted 05/29/13 8:23am

Gunsnhalen

Wow and her batshit crazy fans are commenting on here(The article) saying being gay is the same as being a pedophile confused

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Reply #2 posted 05/29/13 8:29am

Stymie

Gunsnhalen said:

Wow and her batshit crazy fans are commenting on her saying being gay is the same as being a pedophile confused

Fuck her and her ignorant ass fans.

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Reply #3 posted 05/29/13 8:34am

Cinny

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I heard the same song and I think her message and intent have been misinterpreted (on purpose for a story).

snowflake

You know you better

whistle watch out!

snowflake

Because there have been all kinds of negative stories about Lauryn Hill, especially recently, to turn her audience against her. Remember when she supposedly said she didn't want white people buying her music?

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Reply #4 posted 05/29/13 8:37am

Stymie

Cinny said:

I heard the same song and I think her message and intent have been misinterpreted (on purpose for a story).

snowflake

You know you better

whistle watch out!

snowflake

Because there have been all kinds of negative stories about Lauryn Hill, especially recently, to turn her audience against her. Remember when she supposedly said she didn't want white people buying her music?

Are the lyrics posted anywhere?

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Reply #5 posted 05/29/13 8:42am

Cinny

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Stymie said:

Cinny said:

I heard the same song and I think her message and intent have been misinterpreted (on purpose for a story).

snowflake

You know you better

whistle watch out!

snowflake

Because there have been all kinds of negative stories about Lauryn Hill, especially recently, to turn her audience against her. Remember when she supposedly said she didn't want white people buying her music?

Are the lyrics posted anywhere?

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Reply #6 posted 05/29/13 8:43am

Identity

We're living in a joke time, metaphorical coke time
Commerce and guru men, run the whole world man
...old world brutality


Cold world kills softly, whole world runs savagely
Reading into prior things, program TV screens
Quick scam and drag queens, real likely to blast fiends
Think twice and past dreams, crime if you ask clean
Quick fast, the poison has entered the blood stream
Psychological master, consequences of tragedy
Mythological characters, men and women is parody
Superficial vanity, borderline insanity
Out of order humanity, crime committed so passively
Desperados and casualties, corporations want batteries
Explanations of strategies, domination and mastery
...bankrupt, grown people so corrupt
Light swords and yellow men... popularity
Culture so independent, vultures scavenge reality
Past feeling depravity to kings social cavity
Prey on human ignorance, popular immorality
Sympathy disease head, population misled
Self indulgent past dead, absence of the God head
Pimps, pushers and...
Nepotism, no artistery
...and privacy

Desperation, dishonesty

Physicist is your policy, more money, less equality
Inflated global ego, imitating reality
Fuel cycle pharaoh, poisonous poison arrows
Hypocritics on salary, idle hands that was agency
Predisposed to complacency, jealousy, audacity
Contagious social gluttony, stages of mass belignency
Effort to make conception, generation in atrophy
Glam life in debt, scam life in editors

Byproducts of neglect children hiding from crediters

Absence of self respect, fully scared of competitors
Lifestyle of luxury at someone's expense
Sensitive children, used up and sacrificed
Blind to the consequence, smoked up on dope pipes
Ecstasy, fast life, recklessly past life
Narcotics and cash fight, just neurotic society
Benefactors turned actors, addictions triple captors
Experience manufactures just neurotic toxic society


[Verse 2]
It's like post-war, they looking for the commenters or who the marxs is
Ten thousand pictures on Facebook, it's like the pot callin' the kettle narcissist
Come on really, sayin' it's the devil, but you're the chief arsonist
Hypocrites can't even see their own part in it
No reflection, vampire paradigm
No introspection, break down
Three months before pure obsession, picture can't take down
Children, this a shake down, they just lookin' for a sacrifice
They been doin' this since before Bobby Darin sang Mack the Knife
Before James Dean's car did a jack knife
...because they lack life or lack guts
Never confuse the head with the butt
Opinions are like assholes and most of 'em stink
I was told by a woman, so rethink, don't ever let them ever lead you to drink
Leave you to doubt, lead you to fall
Get up, stand us, pass Lucifer out
Shake it up baby, watch them twist it and shout
Insecure assholes lookin' for a ticket
To ride on somebody like the picket, it's fuckin' wicked, shame on 'em
This neurotic toxic society

[Verse 3]

Sick cycle psychology in desperate need of psychiatry

Exorcism, sobriety, forcin' social lobotomies
People stuck in dichotomies, pseudo-sicko anxieties
Serial criminals dressed in variety
Social transvestisms, subliminal dressed up as piety
Transforms projections like Cartesian images
Robbing innocence, stealing inheritance
Quiet victims with no defense portrayed over dollars and cents

Maladjusted ignorant malediction and dissonance

Too much addiction, no consciousness
Don't trust it, this cosmology is busted
Broken returns to the dusted, stems of corruption
Oppression, deceit, abuse and repeat
They don't feel complete unless they're robbin' the sheep
Man is not a product if you call it that then stop it
In this neurotic godless society

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Reply #7 posted 05/29/13 8:47am

Stymie

Okay. I take back what I said about her but if those fans think gays are bad as pedophiles, fuck them still.

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Reply #8 posted 05/29/13 8:49am

aardvark15

shrug It's her worse "song" anyway. Homophobia doesn't typically make good music. The one exception is Prince's Bambi and I personally don't think it's a homophobic song (but some others do).
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Reply #9 posted 05/29/13 8:51am

Cinny

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It does appear to be a critique on the hedonistic nature of current society, and some writer lumps in "the gay lifestyle" with that, but that doesn't mean Lauryn Hill is the homophobe, yknow?

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Reply #10 posted 05/29/13 8:53am

Identity

It's a knee-jerk reaction: she's an easy target for the media because of her tax woes. Clearly, the author of the piece didn't take the time to read the lyrics beforehand.

[Edited 5/29/13 9:35am]

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Reply #11 posted 05/29/13 8:55am

aardvark15

Identity said:

She's an easy target for the media because of her tax woes


falloff I think I'm getting dyslexia. When I first read this I thought it said wax toes

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Reply #12 posted 05/29/13 8:56am

MotorBootyAffa
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Is this anything new? An artist making alleged homophobic remarks? Non-issue, and either way I'm glad I was NEVER a fan. She stinks.
Katie Kinisky: "So What Are The Latest Dances, Nell?"
Nell Carter: "Anything The Black Folks did Last Year"
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Reply #13 posted 05/29/13 9:01am

Stymie

MotorBootyAffair said:

Is this anything new? An artist making alleged homophobic remarks? Non-issue, and either way I'm glad I was NEVER a fan. She stinks.

Yeah but she didn't make homophobic remarks.

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Reply #14 posted 05/29/13 9:03am

Cinny

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MotorBootyAffair said:

Katie Kinisky: "So What Are The Latest Dances, Nell?"
Nell Carter: "Anything The Black Folks did Last Year"

lol

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Reply #15 posted 05/29/13 9:08am

Cinny

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Lauryn Hill neva lied

snowflake

snowflake

snowflake

except about the tax thing. neutral

snowflake

snowflake

But seriously, I am starting to believe her reality is slightly different. To have mass critical acclaim heap love on you, and then try to tear you down while you offer a message alternative to the mainstream...

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Reply #16 posted 05/29/13 9:18am

CynicKill

Whatevs.

Just put out a proper album girl and ALL will be forgiven, even though we've given up on that prospect.

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Reply #17 posted 05/29/13 9:23am

Cinny

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CynicKill said:

Whatevs.

Just put out a proper album girl and ALL will be forgiven, even though we've given up on that prospect.

snowflake

Unplugged would have been great if she had a full band. Her recent shows prove that.

snowflake

I didn't listen to "Neurotic Society" too often because of the electronic anime beat.

snowflake

She could go back to basics and record an album with her touring band

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Reply #18 posted 05/29/13 9:32am

Gunsnhalen

Lauryn has little to judge lol let's be real. She was fucking Wyclef when he was married, she was fucking Rohem when he was married... Had several kids by him and he never even really have a damn about her and yet she stayed with him despite her "be a strong woman and leave bad men" bullshit. And her "God will pay you back" bullshit and letting her musicians go unpaid. Sorry but Lauryn and her music seem like bullshit nowadays the meanings and everything behind them. With the shit she has done and she is trying to judge others harshly? Pssssh hahahahahahah. Suddenly Wyclef and Praswells claims don't seem to be so crazy.
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Reply #19 posted 05/29/13 9:34am

Gunsnhalen

And she had to have her arm pulled to even make a new single! And her fans think she gives a damn about them. Pssh lol
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Reply #20 posted 05/29/13 9:39am

Gunsnhalen

And another thing people talk about her "alternative" message but why about her being brainwashed by that preacher? All her friends and even Wyclef spoke out about it. She speaks about not letting others brainwash you and watch out for evil people in the "industry" yet she was rain washed by religious pimps and she thinks she can turn around and still have a message about society? She is as brainwashed as anyone else.
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Reply #21 posted 05/29/13 9:45am

Stymie

Gunsnhalen said:

And another thing people talk about her "alternative" message but why about her being brainwashed by that preacher? All her friends and even Wyclef spoke out about it. She speaks about not letting others brainwash you and watch out for evil people in the "industry" yet she was rain washed by religious pimps and she thinks she can turn around and still have a message about society? She is as brainwashed as anyone else.

Dude, i just let my mind go blank when it comes to Lauryn Hill. Hell, most celebrities are full of shit. lol

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Reply #22 posted 05/29/13 9:49am

CynicKill

Lauryn is the classic case of not being able to live up to the image she has of herself. That's why I say just put out the damn proper album and drop all the pretense IN YOUR LIFE! She can be as pretentious as she wants on record, honestly I think it's part of her charm. She just has to put her heart and soul into it and none of us will care about all the BS.

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Reply #23 posted 05/29/13 9:53am

Empress

Stymie said:

Gunsnhalen said:

And another thing people talk about her "alternative" message but why about her being brainwashed by that preacher? All her friends and even Wyclef spoke out about it. She speaks about not letting others brainwash you and watch out for evil people in the "industry" yet she was rain washed by religious pimps and she thinks she can turn around and still have a message about society? She is as brainwashed as anyone else.

Dude, i just let my mind go blank when it comes to Lauryn Hill. Hell, most celebrities are full of shit. lol

nod Absolutely!

We have to believe what we believe and not let celebrities sway us one way or the other.

Maybe I've missed something, but I don't see why some think she's homophobic?

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Reply #24 posted 05/29/13 10:00am

Gunsnhalen

Stymie said:



Gunsnhalen said:


And another thing people talk about her "alternative" message but why about her being brainwashed by that preacher? All her friends and even Wyclef spoke out about it. She speaks about not letting others brainwash you and watch out for evil people in the "industry" yet she was rain washed by religious pimps and she thinks she can turn around and still have a message about society? She is as brainwashed as anyone else.

Dude, i just let my mind go blank when it comes to Lauryn Hill. Hell, most celebrities are full of shit. lol


I always gave her the benefit of the doubt but I guess I need to go blank. Maybe she will go to jail and come out with a new religion lol
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Reply #25 posted 05/29/13 10:02am

mjscarousal

I am so sick and tired of people dogging Lauryn.... for no reason

Yea yea yea I know alot of her personal troubles was a result of her own carelessness but does that make her crazy? Does that make her homophobic? Does that make her a evil person? I mean if you want to talk about being judgemental this is what is judgemental. Believing everything you hear without researching and giving labels to someone you dont even know. There is not one thing in the song that references to homophobia.

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Reply #26 posted 05/29/13 10:05am

Stymie

mjscarousal said:

I am so sick and tired of people dogging Lauryn.... for no reason

Yea yea yea I know alot of her personal troubles was a result of her own carelessness but does that make her crazy? Does that make her homophobic? Does that make her a evil person? I mean if you want to talk about being judgemental this is what is judgemental. Believing everything you hear without researching and giving labels to someone you dont even know. There is not one thing in the song that references to homophobia.

Our society lives to tear people down and not build them up.

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Reply #27 posted 05/29/13 10:07am

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Gunsnhalen said:

And another thing people talk about her "alternative" message but why about her being brainwashed by that preacher? All her friends and even Wyclef spoke out about it. She speaks about not letting others brainwash you and watch out for evil people in the "industry" yet she was rain washed by religious pimps and she thinks she can turn around and still have a message about society? She is as brainwashed as anyone else.

Hell, the "guru" she mentions in the song could just as well be about something she is going through.

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Reply #28 posted 05/29/13 10:08am

Gunsnhalen

mjscarousal said:

I am so sick and tired of people dogging Lauryn.... for no reason


Yea yea yea I know alot of her personal troubles was a result of her own carelessness but does that make her crazy? Does that make her homophobic? Does that make her a evil person? I mean if you want to talk about being judgemental this is what is judgemental. Believing everything you hear without researching and giving labels to someone you dont even know. There is not one thing in the song that references to homophobia.


Mjc I have agreed with a lot of your statements about Lauryn. But simply her actions just make me think her message is bullshit so her music isn't as meaningful to me as it once was. And Lauryn did a lot of this to herself she is just as brainwashed as anyone else she claims is in the industry.
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Reply #29 posted 05/29/13 10:09am

JoeBala

Heaven knows there are some who are homophobes and keep it to themselves. Michelle Shocke really didn't mean what she did say I'm sure. I was always a fan of both of them. But don't you think there are others that keep it a secret?!

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