Justin doesnt use live instruments nor does he play the instruments in his music either. Playing a couple of strings on a guitar doesnt make you a "musician"
He does use live instruments and he does play them occasionally. He is just not a bonafied musician. He is like the average country singer. They grab a guitar just to say they play it, but really, they are just mediocre at best when it comes to playing.
He is what I'd call a wanker.......at instruments.
I'd venture to say that he knows what you should if you want to be in music. He probably knows how to read music to play songs, which is all you need if you want to write. But I also think his "writing" contributions are dubious at best (my intuition). It's safe to say he contributes to lyrics (they are so-so).
He does use live instruments and he does play them occasionally. He is just not a bonafied musician. He is like the average country singer. They grab a guitar just to say they play it, but really, they are just mediocre at best when it comes to playing.
He is what I'd call a wanker.......at instruments.
Exactly! He's probably had lessons since he was a child. After all, he has been singing and dancing since he was little. If he took guitar and/or piano lessons as a child would not be surprising.
To me, even if he's no master musician, that doesn't mean that he is not talented. A lot of people seem to think that you should be able to play Rachmaninoff in order to be classified as a musician and I don't think so.
To me, you can tell the guy has been trained as a musician by listening to the arrangements on his albums. He may not be able to play it, but he can definitely paint a picture with layers and arrangements. That's what separates him from a lot of his peers.
I'd venture to say that he knows what you should if you want to be in music. He probably knows how to read music to play songs, which is all you need if you want to write. But I also think his "writing" contributions are dubious at best (my intuition). It's safe to say he contributes to lyrics (they are so-so).
I'm 100% with you on this.
I give him credit for this one. This is a beautiful non-JT track, but he actually co-wrote it and produced it.
Would you rather Usher or Chris Brown tried their hands at guitar playing? Like that's ever going to happen. How many R & B artists actually sing, write or attempt to play instruments anymore?
He is what I'd call a wanker.......at instruments.
Exactly! He's probably had lessons since he was a child. After all, he has been singing and dancing since he was little. If he took guitar and/or piano lessons as a child would not be surprising.
To me, even if he's no master musician, that doesn't mean that he is not talented. A lot of people seem to think that you should be able to play Rachmaninoff in order to be classified as a musician and I don't think so.
To me, you can tell the guy has been trained as a musician by listening to the arrangements on his albums. He may not be able to play it, but he can definitely paint a picture with layers and arrangements. That's what separates him from a lot of his peers.
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If he takes time to perfect whatever he plays he'll be better than what he is now. Compared to Usher and Chris Brown, I'll take Justin playing guitar over either of them.
Exactly! He's probably had lessons since he was a child. After all, he has been singing and dancing since he was little. If he took guitar and/or piano lessons as a child would not be surprising.
To me, even if he's no master musician, that doesn't mean that he is not talented. A lot of people seem to think that you should be able to play Rachmaninoff in order to be classified as a musician and I don't think so.
To me, you can tell the guy has been trained as a musician by listening to the arrangements on his albums. He may not be able to play it, but he can definitely paint a picture with layers and arrangements. That's what separates him from a lot of his peers.
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If he takes time to perfect whatever he plays he'll be better than what he is now. Compared to Usher and Chris Brown, I'll take Justin playing guitar over either of them.
Chris Brown and Usher have never claimed to be guitarists. It's a bit like saying compared to Chris Rock and Eddie Murphy I'd take Jerry Seinfeld playing basketball over either of them.
The better question is who you'd take as a singer and dancer - as that's what they're noted for. And the answer to that question probably isn't Timberlake.
Chris Brown and Usher have never claimed to be guitarists. It's a bit like saying compared to Chris Rock and Eddie Murphy I'd take Jerry Seinfeld playing basketball over either of them.
So clever. Promoting your current release by hyping it's follow-up.
When go 2 a Prince concert or related event it's all up in the house but when log onto this site and the miasma of bitchiness is completely overwhelming!
I'm so hyped for this record.. the first one may not have a bunch of single-friendly material, but listen all the way through and it's probably his best LP yet.
Also incredibly excited because I got 10th row tickets to see him in Tulsa... cannot wait!!
Exactly! He's probably had lessons since he was a child. After all, he has been singing and dancing since he was little. If he took guitar and/or piano lessons as a child would not be surprising.
To me, even if he's no master musician, that doesn't mean that he is not talented. A lot of people seem to think that you should be able to play Rachmaninoff in order to be classified as a musician and I don't think so.
To me, you can tell the guy has been trained as a musician by listening to the arrangements on his albums. He may not be able to play it, but he can definitely paint a picture with layers and arrangements. That's what separates him from a lot of his peers.
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If he takes time to perfect whatever he plays he'll be better than what he is now. Compared to Usher and Chris Brown, I'll take Justin playing guitar over either of them.
I agree that JT is average at best when it comes to musical talent, but I totally agree with Timmy about taking JT over Usher and Chris B any day.
To me, you can tell the guy has been trained as a musician by listening to the arrangements on his albums. He may not be able to play it, but he can definitely paint a picture with layers and arrangements. That's what separates him from a lot of his peers.
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Im sorry but I disagree.
Now I have said this and I will say it again.... I do think his music is alot better than his peers (but that isnt saying much)
However
These last couple of sentences are not accurate. He doesnt play any instruments in his music (He might use live instruments live..... but when he records he does not use live instruments) and its hard to determine what he actually contributes to the composition.
Are there demos of him coming up with the beats and arrangements?
Arguing that he has been singing since he was little does not mean he is involved in the arrangement process or that he has been playing the guitar since he was little.
Are there videos of him playing the guitar when he was little??
It also doesnt make him a master at singing. Hell you can start singing at 2 but if your voice is average (which Justins is) then it doesnt matter when you start singing.
Yea his musicis okay but Yall give this blow joe way to much credit. There are much more talented artists that are more exceptional in the singing, dancing, songwriting and musicianship departments.
To me, you can tell the guy has been trained as a musician by listening to the arrangements on his albums. He may not be able to play it, but he can definitely paint a picture with layers and arrangements. That's what separates him from a lot of his peers.
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Im sorry but I disagree.
Now I have said this and I will say it again.... I do think his music is alot better than his peers (but that isnt saying much)
However
These last couple of sentences are not accurate. He doesnt play any instruments in his music (He might use live instruments live..... but when he records he does not use live instruments) and its hard to determine what he actually contributes to the composition.
Are there demos of him coming up with the beats and arrangements?
Arguing that he has been singing since he was little does not mean he is involved in the arrangement process or that he has been playing the guitar since he was little.
Are there videos of him playing the guitar when he was little??
It also doesnt make him a master at singing. Hell you can start singing at 2 but if your voice is average (which Justins is) then it doesnt matter when you start singing.
Yea his musicis okay but Yall give this blow joe way to much credit. There are much more talented artists that are more exceptional in the singing, dancing, songwriting and musicianship departments.
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I get what u're saying and am not TOTALLY disagreeing.
I just think that the guy has led a "priviledged" life and his parents helped with his craft (not necessarilly singing...but taking piano and guitar lessons along with vocal lessons). He is one of these cats that has been taking music lessons since he could walk and talk.
I just think that he is a decent writer that is a step or 2 ahead of the average "pop" star that is out today. JT is simply a more popular version of Robin Thicke. Thicke is not a virguoso musician, but he can write and play as well as arrange.
Now I have said this and I will say it again.... I do think his music is alot better than his peers (but that isnt saying much)
However
These last couple of sentences are not accurate. He doesnt play any instruments in his music (He might use live instruments live..... but when he records he does not use live instruments) and its hard to determine what he actually contributes to the composition.
Are there demos of him coming up with the beats and arrangements?
Arguing that he has been singing since he was little does not mean he is involved in the arrangement process or that he has been playing the guitar since he was little.
Are there videos of him playing the guitar when he was little??
It also doesnt make him a master at singing. Hell you can start singing at 2 but if your voice is average (which Justins is) then it doesnt matter when you start singing.
Yea his musicis okay but Yall give this blow joe way to much credit. There are much more talented artists that are more exceptional in the singing, dancing, songwriting and musicianship departments.
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I get what u're saying and am not TOTALLY disagreeing.
I just think that the guy has led a "priviledged" life and his parents helped with his craft (not necessarilly singing...but taking piano and guitar lessons along with vocal lessons). He is one of these cats that has been taking music lessons since he could walk and talk.
I just think that he is a decent writer that is a step or 2 ahead of the average "pop" star that is out today. JT is simply a more popular version of Robin Thicke. Thicke is not a virguoso musician, but he can write and play as well as arrange.
I see your point ...... but my arguement is none of these things matter because he is average in those areas. Just because he does those things doesnt mean he is good or even great at them. It doesnt make him necessarily better because he does those things per se.
Just because he has taken lessions at an early age doesnt make him better than someone who hasnt (especially when he is average in playing instruments himself, the arguement does no good). There are 5 or 6 year olds that are exceptionally better piano players and guitar players than him
He is very average in songwriting and in singing. What makes his music catchy is the production and overall arrangement. I do appreciate that he tries to make R&B and descent music (which he does) but there are ALOT better and alot that actually use live instruments, write stronger material and are more creative that was just my point .
I get what u're saying and am not TOTALLY disagreeing.
I just think that the guy has led a "priviledged" life and his parents helped with his craft (not necessarilly singing...but taking piano and guitar lessons along with vocal lessons). He is one of these cats that has been taking music lessons since he could walk and talk.
I just think that he is a decent writer that is a step or 2 ahead of the average "pop" star that is out today. JT is simply a more popular version of Robin Thicke. Thicke is not a virguoso musician, but he can write and play as well as arrange.
I see your point ...... but my arguement is none of these things matter because he is average in those areas. Just because he does those things doesnt mean he is good or even great at them. It doesnt make him necessarily better because he does those things per se.
Just because he has taken lessions at an early age doesnt make him better than someone who hasnt (especially when he is average in playing instruments himself, the arguement does no good). There are 5 or 6 year olds that are exceptionally better piano players and guitar players than him
He is very average in songwriting and in singing. What makes his music catchy is the production and overall arrangement. I do appreciate that he tries to make R&B and descent music (which he does) but there are ALOT better and alot that actually use live instruments, write stronger material and are more creative that was just my point .
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If he takes time to perfect whatever he plays he'll be better than what he is now. Compared to Usher and Chris Brown, I'll take Justin playing guitar over either of them. 
go 2 a Prince concert or related event it's all 
up in the house but when 
