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Reply #30 posted 04/25/13 9:28pm

Cinny

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Oh wow. Okay, yeah I can actually see if it was a label deal the number being much higher. I wonder what kind of contracts Lauryn would give to artists on her label, given her values for "freedom"

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Reply #31 posted 04/25/13 10:25pm

Gunsnhalen

rolleyes sigh i can't take much more of these talks from Lauryn.

And as for her own label she would give freedom but no money lol i still can't believe that ''GOD will repay'' bullshit she pulled on people who played with her recently on recordings... razz

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Reply #32 posted 04/25/13 11:13pm

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"Keep in mind, my past recordings have sold over 50,000,000 units worldwide, earning the label a tremendous amount of money (a fraction of which actually came to me)."

and if she did not have a label, she would not have sold 50,000,000 units.

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Reply #33 posted 04/25/13 11:15pm

Timmy84

Speaking of freedom, "Ms. Hill", why don't you pay your musicians on Miseducation their money then? Seems like you were dictating them too huh?

[Edited 4/25/13 23:16pm]

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Reply #34 posted 04/26/13 3:55am

UnderMySun

If this is true, Hill got a lucky break lol I wonder if this alleged project will be any good though. Having to make music under (what I assume) a deadline, combined with the idea that her heart isn't in it (she's just doing it for money) might result in horrible songs disbelief

What could happen if Sony doesn't like the 5 tunes she submits and Lauryn does? Will she have to submit 5 more in their place more to Sony's satisfaction? And then there's the promo effort like interviews, music videos, magazine covers and maybe a tour. Would she put a full effort into promoting something she only made to avoid prison time? And finally, how well could a 5 song EP by Hill sell in a music world dominated by the likes of Rihanna, Beyonce, Adele and Bieber?

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Reply #35 posted 04/26/13 7:03am

Musicslave

HAPPYPERSON said:

Lauryn Hill Lifts Lid On New Label / Pens Letter To Address Financial Woes

Lauryn Hill Lifts Lid On New Label / Pens Letter To Address Financial Woes

Letter via Lauryn:

It has been reported that I signed a new record deal, and that I did this to pay taxes. Yes, I have recently entered into an agreement with Sony Worldwide Entertainment, to launch a new label, on which my new music will be released. And yes, I am working on new music.

I’ve remained silent, after an extensive healing process. This has been a 10+ year battle, for a long time played out behind closed doors, but now in front of the public eye. This is an old conflict between art and commerce… free minds, and minds that are perhaps overly tethered to structure. This is about inequity, and the resulting disenfranchisement caused by it. I’ve been fighting for existential and economic freedom, which means the freedom to create and live without someone threatening, controlling, and/or manipulating the art and the artist, by tying the purse strings.

It took years for me to get out of the ‘parasitic’ dynamic of my youth, and into a deal that better reflects my true contribution as an artist, and (purportedly) gives me the control necessary to create a paradigm suitable for my needs. I have been working towards this for a long time, not just because of my current legal situation, but because I am an artist, I love to create, and I need the proper platform to do so.

The nature of my new business venture, as well as the dollar amount reported, was inaccurate, only a portion of the overall deal. Keep in mind, my past recordings have sold over 50,000,000 units worldwide, earning the label a tremendous amount of money (a fraction of which actually came to me).

Only a completely complicated set of traps, manipulations, and inequitable business arrangements could put someone who has accomplished the things that I have, financially in need of anything. I am one artist who finds value in openly discussing the dynamics within this industry that force artists to compromise or distort themselves and what they do, rather than allowing them to make the music that people need. There are volumes that could (and will) be said.

MLH



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Chile please. She can save that "sacrificial lamb" B.S. Ain't nobody buying it. I mean, if her relationship with Sony was so manipulative and inequitable, why RESIGN with the same label of said abuse? Oh I forgot, you were financially in need.

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Reply #36 posted 04/26/13 8:51am

Timmy84

Musicslave said:

HAPPYPERSON said:

Lauryn Hill Lifts Lid On New Label / Pens Letter To Address Financial Woes

Lauryn Hill Lifts Lid On New Label / Pens Letter To Address Financial Woes

Letter via Lauryn:



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Chile please. She can save that "sacrificial lamb" B.S. Ain't nobody buying it. I mean, if her relationship with Sony was so manipulative and inequitable, why RESIGN with the same label of said abuse? Oh I forgot, you were financially in need.

nod But she ain't fooling me. She GOT money, she's just ignorant.

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Reply #37 posted 04/26/13 9:57am

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Her ass just need to file and pay her damn taxes on time just like everyone else is required to do.

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Reply #38 posted 04/26/13 10:27am

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lastdecember said:

Gunsnhalen said:

I Love Lauryn... i love that album, unplugged & all the unreleased accoustic material to death.

But it's time to meet the fucking taxman boo confused i have to pay taxes as do you and if i got that deep i would be in prison fighting off Large Larry and creating storylines for a new season of OZ.

She doesn't want to make an album.. so i don't see how this will help or better the situation. Lauryn need's to take some responsibilities for real....

When u look up "double standard" in the dictionary it has a picture of Lauryn Hill. I can respect her stances against music, and fame and this and that, shit Kurt Cobain blew his head off because of it, but Lauryn is full of it at this point, she's a slave to the system until it can keep her out of jail. She doesnt want "label money" but hey if it keeps me out of jail i will take it. Lauryn was collectin all that money from labels and the benefits of being on a label, and yet not paying tax on it, complaining for years how she was a victim....etc.....but lets face if she was an unknown, she'd be in jail or at least not given an option to pay her way out, ive seen people threaten with jail for $500 debts.

Being in federal prison AND being on a major record label are two different kinds of prisons. At least with Sony, Lauryn can still go home to see her children.

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Think about it.

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Reply #39 posted 04/26/13 10:34am

Timmy84

TonyVanDam said:

lastdecember said:

When u look up "double standard" in the dictionary it has a picture of Lauryn Hill. I can respect her stances against music, and fame and this and that, shit Kurt Cobain blew his head off because of it, but Lauryn is full of it at this point, she's a slave to the system until it can keep her out of jail. She doesnt want "label money" but hey if it keeps me out of jail i will take it. Lauryn was collectin all that money from labels and the benefits of being on a label, and yet not paying tax on it, complaining for years how she was a victim....etc.....but lets face if she was an unknown, she'd be in jail or at least not given an option to pay her way out, ive seen people threaten with jail for $500 debts.

Being in federal prison AND being on a major record label are two different kinds of prisons. At least with Sony, Lauryn can still go home to see her children.

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Think about it.

While that is true, I just think Lauryn should've stuck to her guns if she truly believe the words she was saying. That just tells me she caved under pressure because she didn't want her kids to see her in a prison cell.

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Reply #40 posted 04/26/13 10:43am

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Timmy84 said:

TonyVanDam said:

Being in federal prison AND being on a major record label are two different kinds of prisons. At least with Sony, Lauryn can still go home to see her children.

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Think about it.

While that is true, I just think Lauryn should've stuck to her guns if she truly believe the words she was saying. That just tells me she caved under pressure because she didn't want her kids to see her in a prison cell.

If Lauryn would have went ot federal prison, who would have been there for her children then? And where in the hell is Rohan Marley, who is the biological father of 5 out of the 6 children?

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Reply #41 posted 04/26/13 10:43am

Timmy84

TonyVanDam said:

Timmy84 said:

While that is true, I just think Lauryn should've stuck to her guns if she truly believe the words she was saying. That just tells me she caved under pressure because she didn't want her kids to see her in a prison cell.

If Lauryn would have went ot federal prison, who would have been there for her children then? And where in the hell is Rohan Marley, who is the biological father of 5 out of the 6 children?

Chillin' with his "fiancee". neutral

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Reply #42 posted 04/26/13 11:03am

Empress

Timmy84 said:

TonyVanDam said:

If Lauryn would have went ot federal prison, who would have been there for her children then? And where in the hell is Rohan Marley, who is the biological father of 5 out of the 6 children?

Chillin' with his "fiancee". neutral

And his other children neutral

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Reply #43 posted 04/26/13 11:07am

Timmy84

Empress said:

Timmy84 said:

Chillin' with his "fiancee". neutral

And his other children neutral

Yeah that too.

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Reply #44 posted 04/26/13 12:16pm

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Timmy84 said:

TonyVanDam said:

If Lauryn would have went ot federal prison, who would have been there for her children then? And where in the hell is Rohan Marley, who is the biological father of 5 out of the 6 children?

Chillin' with his "fiancee". neutral

@Empress & Timmy.......Oh yes, I remember the finacee, the model from Brazil. She also has 3 children of her own from a previous marriage. For Rohan by himself, that too many damn children AND step-children. disbelief

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Reply #45 posted 04/26/13 1:25pm

Musicslave

TonyVanDam said:

Timmy84 said:

While that is true, I just think Lauryn should've stuck to her guns if she truly believe the words she was saying. That just tells me she caved under pressure because she didn't want her kids to see her in a prison cell.

If Lauryn would have went ot federal prison, who would have been there for her children then? And where in the hell is Rohan Marley, who is the biological father of 5 out of the 6 children?

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I hear where you coming from TVD. I think well before the IRS stopped playing with her, she should have been courting those few other labels that's left out there that can afford to pay her the big money I'm sure she's damanding. So instead, she ended up making a deal with the devil she already knew. shrug confused neutral

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Reply #46 posted 04/26/13 1:35pm

Musicslave

Timmy84 said:

Musicslave said:

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Chile please. She can save that "sacrificial lamb" B.S. Ain't nobody buying it. I mean, if her relationship with Sony was so manipulative and inequitable, why RESIGN with the same label of said abuse? Oh I forgot, you were financially in need.

nod But she ain't fooling me. She GOT money, she's just ignorant.

I hope she makes the best of this opportunity to reconnect with an audience. I think it would be a big mistake for her to just throw something out there half assed. If she is truely smart she would create a geniune buzz by releasing 5 just 5 decent songs. That would do wonders for her future (if she really wants it of course.)

That could spark a bidding war for her talents but she'll probably just get in her own way again. Talk about self destruction. confused

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Reply #47 posted 04/26/13 4:39pm

SoulAlive

Musicslave said:

HAPPYPERSON said:

Lauryn Hill Lifts Lid On New Label / Pens Letter To Address Financial Woes

Lauryn Hill Lifts Lid On New Label / Pens Letter To Address Financial Woes

Letter via Lauryn:



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Chile please. She can save that "sacrificial lamb" B.S. Ain't nobody buying it. I mean, if her relationship with Sony was so manipulative and inequitable, why RESIGN with the same label of said abuse? Oh I forgot, you were financially in need.

I agree.I'm tired of Lauryn and her constant drama,contradictions,and game-playing.At this point,it's become boring bored She needed some quick cash to avoid going to jail,Sony bailed her out,now do the album and stop whining!

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Reply #48 posted 04/28/13 7:09pm

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Musicslave said:

TonyVanDam said:

If Lauryn would have went ot federal prison, who would have been there for her children then? And where in the hell is Rohan Marley, who is the biological father of 5 out of the 6 children?

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I hear where you coming from TVD. I think well before the IRS stopped playing with her, she should have been courting those few other labels that's left out there that can afford to pay her the big money I'm sure she's damanding. So instead, she ended up making a deal with the devil she already knew. shrug confused neutral

I was about to ask why she doesn't just sign with an indie label if she or her art is being threatened, controlled or manipulated, but I think you just answered that question. sad

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Reply #49 posted 04/29/13 5:57am

luvsexy4all

so i guess she couldnt make the money doing live shows?

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Reply #50 posted 04/29/13 6:33am

purple1968

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Lauryn Hill Lifts Lid On New Label / Pens Letter To Address Financial Woes

Lauryn Hill Lifts Lid On New Label / Pens Letter To Address Financial Woes

Letter via Lauryn:

It has been reported that I signed a new record deal, and that I did this to pay taxes. Yes, I have recently entered into an agreement with Sony Worldwide Entertainment, to launch a new label, on which my new music will be released. And yes, I am working on new music.

I’ve remained silent, after an extensive healing process. This has been a 10+ year battle, for a long time played out behind closed doors, but now in front of the public eye. This is an old conflict between art and commerce… free minds, and minds that are perhaps overly tethered to structure. This is about inequity, and the resulting disenfranchisement caused by it. I’ve been fighting for existential and economic freedom, which means the freedom to create and live without someone threatening, controlling, and/or manipulating the art and the artist, by tying the purse strings.

It took years for me to get out of the ‘parasitic’ dynamic of my youth, and into a deal that better reflects my true contribution as an artist, and (purportedly) gives me the control necessary to create a paradigm suitable for my needs. I have been working towards this for a long time, not just because of my current legal situation, but because I am an artist, I love to create, and I need the proper platform to do so.

The nature of my new business venture, as well as the dollar amount reported, was inaccurate, only a portion of the overall deal. Keep in mind, my past recordings have sold over 50,000,000 units worldwide, earning the label a tremendous amount of money (a fraction of which actually came to me).

Only a completely complicated set of traps, manipulations, and inequitable business arrangements could put someone who has accomplished the things that I have, financially in need of anything. I am one artist who finds value in openly discussing the dynamics within this industry that force artists to compromise or distort themselves and what they do, rather than allowing them to make the music that people need. There are volumes that could (and will) be said.

MLH



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I am waiting for the shit storm on this board for her nonsense because if P did not pay his taxes and did not put out new music for over a decade and put out this type of lunchbox response you haters on this board would be going the hell off. Lauryn is one of the most over-rated and hyped up artist every without having one eight of the talent to back up her nonsense.

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Reply #51 posted 04/29/13 9:05am

Timmy84

purple1968 said:

HAPPYPERSON said:

Lauryn Hill Lifts Lid On New Label / Pens Letter To Address Financial Woes

Lauryn Hill Lifts Lid On New Label / Pens Letter To Address Financial Woes

Letter via Lauryn:



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I am waiting for the shit storm on this board for her nonsense because if P did not pay his taxes and did not put out new music for over a decade and put out this type of lunchbox response you haters on this board would be going the hell off. Lauryn is one of the most over-rated and hyped up artist every without having one eight of the talent to back up her nonsense.

Speak for yourself, some of us are upset at "Miss Hill" for doing this bullshit...so no, folks have done far worse than Prince.

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Reply #52 posted 04/29/13 1:59pm

Musicslave

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Musicslave said:

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I hear where you coming from TVD. I think well before the IRS stopped playing with her, she should have been courting those few other labels that's left out there that can afford to pay her the big money I'm sure she's damanding. So instead, she ended up making a deal with the devil she already knew. shrug confused neutral

I was about to ask why she doesn't just sign with an indie label if she or her art is being threatened, controlled or manipulated, but I think you just answered that question. sad

I don't know for certain if that's the case or not but considering her ego.....I can't imagine her taking anything less. I mean afterall, she's sold 50,000,000 units worldwide you know. wink

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Reply #53 posted 04/29/13 2:05pm

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Musicslave said:

Arbwyth said:

I was about to ask why she doesn't just sign with an indie label if she or her art is being threatened, controlled or manipulated, but I think you just answered that question. sad

I don't know for certain if that's the case or not but considering her ego.....I can't imagine her taking anything less. I mean afterall, she's sold 50,000,000 units worldwide you know. wink

razz lol

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Reply #54 posted 04/29/13 9:02pm

Cinny

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luvsexy4all said:

so i guess she couldnt make the money doing live shows?

Not in under a month guaranteed to a judge. She made that paper doing live shows, just kept it all. lol

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Reply #55 posted 04/29/13 9:44pm

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Bat crazy, probably. But she is fine though.

99.9% of everything I say is strictly for my own entertainment
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Reply #56 posted 04/30/13 2:39am

SoulAlive

I think it's a shame that Lauryn is making an album under these circumstances confused She doesn't seem inspired to do this album,she's only doing it because she needs the cash.If she wasn't in trouble with the IRS,I bet she would not be making a new album at all.

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Reply #57 posted 04/30/13 2:43am

SoulAlive

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so i guess she couldnt make the money doing live shows?

She's been touring consistently for many years,but I don't think she was making enough cash to pay the bills.She mostly performs in small theatres.Awhile back,someone on this forum suggested that she should tour with Mary J. Blige (who is also having some financial problems) and call it the "Pay My Bills" Tour lol

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Reply #58 posted 04/30/13 10:45am

purple1968

Timmy84 said:

purple1968 said:

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I am waiting for the shit storm on this board for her nonsense because if P did not pay his taxes and did not put out new music for over a decade and put out this type of lunchbox response you haters on this board would be going the hell off. Lauryn is one of the most over-rated and hyped up artist every without having one eight of the talent to back up her nonsense.

Speak for yourself, some of us are upset at "Miss Hill" for doing this bullshit...so no, folks have done far worse than Prince.

Reading is not fundamental for you?

I am speaking for myself. I am waiting for the 3,000 comments about her stupidity which anyone else would get on this board if they were not this overhyped artist.

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Reply #59 posted 04/30/13 7:55pm

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Musicslave said:

Arbwyth said:

I was about to ask why she doesn't just sign with an indie label if she or her art is being threatened, controlled or manipulated, but I think you just answered that question. sad

I don't know for certain if that's the case or not but considering her ego.....I can't imagine her taking anything less. I mean afterall, she's sold 50,000,000 units worldwide you know. wink

nod Yeah, none of us can know for sure. But it really isn't like she CAN'T make the type of music she wants to make. She just isn't guaranteed to have as wide an audience as she's had in the past. I feel like if she really wanted it that badly, she'd find a way to get that music out there, regardless of how many people heard it. Shit, I'd be listening!

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