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There was some great songs in there. [Edited 4/14/13 12:55pm] | |
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Not even close, believe it or not and though WE all might not want to admit it, when MTV came into the picture, not day one but when they were sold which was right around the time Eddie Murphy hosted the award show, that was the end, more from a business side not so much on the talent side, because obviously people like Madonna, Prince and Mj and Janet all got fame off of MTV, Duran Duran would have been down and out not for video, alot of CAREERS like David Bowie and Tina Turner and the Stones etc....were kept going because of Video Exposure. As far as quality, we can give and take on the artists you named, I may not be a NKOTB fanatic, but shit they can sing, and that new record has better songs than JT by far, Poison and Winger, are novelity and jump on the Motley Crue bandwagon, every time period has that kind of artist, Boyz II Men opened the door for all sorts of SHIT rb groups like Next and 112 and Men of Vision etc...I almost blame that whole movement for the death of RB, especially instruments in RB.
Mainstream goes in waves, but now the industry exits another way, you cant compare 1988 and that mainstream to mainstream now, you have no competition now, sorry even with the internet, you just have an over abundance of shit, and you have no mainstream filter so one media source runs it all, sad to say. In say 1988, you had MJ George Michael Bruce Madonna JJ Prince and tons of others still putting out strong records, albums dont matter now, you even have a band like Fleetwood Mac saying "we arent going to an album because its not relevant to the times anymore" that to me is fucking sad. So now you are going to have a bunch of joe shmos in their living room on a laptop making a single for the "narrow minded" mainstream we have now, "the next big thing". So we can see decline, but the "decline" came from the invention of MTV and alot of what that allowed in, it also let in the mentality that your LOOK was more important than your music, you cant LOOK sexy when the radio is all you got, MTV allowed the door to be blown open, and though you got tons of great artists, the thinking it left behind and the business minds it left behind that aare still there now, ruined it. [Edited 4/14/13 16:30pm] "We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F | |
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I disagree with your post; not that what you said doesn't make sense, it's just that I'm tired of the whole "MTV (and a decade later Internet) destroyed the quality of music"
the ones to blame are
a) first and foremost the crappy artists for creating CRAP b) the execs who released that music c) the tools/sheep/simpletons that bought it
by decline I meant that the early 80's gave us the first TRULY crappy acts the world had ever seen at that point (MY OPINION, of course); as I said yesterday, when someone like Tiffany/Debbie got a contract,...jezz, that opened a VERY dangerous door...
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they don't release another album because they ain't worth shit anymoreI would agree that there was a decline in relation to the 70s and the early 80s, but I like some of the mainstream acts of the late 80s like the Stock, Aitken and Waterman's productions, Paula Abdul or Eight Wonder. Far better than today's mainstream in my opinion. [Edited 4/14/13 23:57pm] | |
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Not even close, believe it or not and though WE all might not want to admit it, when MTV came into the picture, not day one but when they were sold which was right around the time Eddie Murphy hosted the award show, that was the end, more from a business side not so much on the talent side, because obviously people like Madonna, Prince and Mj and Janet all got fame off of MTV, Duran Duran would have been down and out not for video, alot of CAREERS like David Bowie and Tina Turner and the Stones etc....were kept going because of Video Exposure. As far as quality, we can give and take on the artists you named, I may not be a NKOTB fanatic, but shit they can sing, and that new record has better songs than JT by far, Poison and Winger, are novelity and jump on the Motley Crue bandwagon, every time period has that kind of artist, Boyz II Men opened the door for all sorts of SHIT rb groups like Next and 112 and Men of Vision etc...I almost blame that whole movement for the death of RB, especially instruments in RB.
Mainstream goes in waves, but now the industry exits another way, you cant compare 1988 and that mainstream to mainstream now, you have no competition now, sorry even with the internet, you just have an over abundance of shit, and you have no mainstream filter so one media source runs it all, sad to say. In say 1988, you had MJ George Michael Bruce Madonna JJ Prince and tons of others still putting out strong records, albums dont matter now, you even have a band like Fleetwood Mac saying "we arent going to an album because its not relevant to the times anymore" that to me is fucking sad. So now you are going to have a bunch of joe shmos in their living room on a laptop making a single for the "narrow minded" mainstream we have now, "the next big thing". So we can see decline, but the "decline" came from the invention of MTV and alot of what that allowed in, it also let in the mentality that your LOOK was more important than your music, you cant LOOK sexy when the radio is all you got, MTV allowed the door to be blown open, and though you got tons of great artists, the thinking it left behind and the business minds it left behind that aare still there now, ruined it. [Edited 4/ | |
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You feel me? Vanessa is the only person on the list to make consistantly good album throughout her career, especially in the 90's. "The Comfort Zone" is one of the best albums of that decade, IMO! "It's not nice to fuck with K.B.! All you haters will see!" - Kitbradley
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But crappy artists exist everywhere and in every time period, reach back you will find them. My issue now is not so much the crap, or when it began its how music is made now, how its put out, how its marketed, how no one now thinks, everyone jumps one thing and milks it dry then gets another thing to milk, there is no competition and without it you dont raise bars, you drop them and right now they are so low. Everytime i hear people praise "music is back" when an Adele sells some records or alicia keys plays a piano, im like REALLY are we that void that we go ape shit when someone actually sings on a record? Or a label does thing right, or the public actually thinks about MUSIC and not what would sound good when their phone rings. That fact that Billboard now tracks Ringtone sales, and they have a chart called ADULT POP SONGS, wtf is that? and they track what people stream? not what you buy what you listen to for 30 seconds, really is this where we are? YUP so thats my issue per say, MTV is a blame in what took over, MTV allowed what once was an interesting idea, to just get milked, and they were sold off fairly early, and dont forget SOUNDSCAN is a huge culprit here too, it added to the decline because it didnt matter anymore how good or bad your music was, it was all about WEEK ONE, all through the 90's and early 2000's thats all i heard, "did it go platnum" "did it go number one" from mindless idiots talking like robots and as if they were getting a cut of the platunum, it was dumb to go this route, but Music to me has to crash the whole system, everything before it can re-create itself, and its a long way from that stage. "We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F | |
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jody garland?
I hate all of them except Paula though now I'm sick of her, and Bobby Brown has not aged well. I never liked New Kids, not even as a kid. Loved Locomotion though and still have my 45 [Edited 4/15/13 17:32pm] | |
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you're so wrong for that but LMAO!!!! | |
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Don't be cruel Bobby Brown does not deserve to be there
In all seriousness - that album is one of the best r&b albums of the 80's and one of the earliest New Jack albums - highly influential to the genre.
Every decade had its good share of cheese:
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