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Reply #90 posted 03/21/13 2:19pm

BlaqueKnight

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2elijah said:

Timberlake can never take MJ's place, nor can any other artist. That mold is broken.

I think this is the official end of this convo.

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Reply #91 posted 03/21/13 2:25pm

duccichucka

BlaqueKnight said:

2elijah said:

Timberlake can never take MJ's place, nor can any other artist. That mold is broken.

I think this is the official end of this convo.

Aw c'mon - not you too.

Look - to claim that Justin Timberlake's talent and musical offerings are commensurate

with Michael Jackson is premature.

But you cannot hate a dude for trying or for being influenced. What is a male R&B/pop

star in 2013 supposed to do? Not be influenced by Michael Jackson?

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Reply #92 posted 03/22/13 2:48pm

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Cuddles said:



Graycap23 said:




2elijah said:



Timberlake can never take MJ's place, nor can any other artist. That mold is broken.



That would be a whole lot of shoes for JT to fill. Timby's style is not original. It's acopycat style, and that's what's wrong with the music industry today. They promote manufactured artists and call that the 'Next big thing'. There's nothing revolutionary about his music, because anyone can sing his songs.



I find that JT is much better as an actor, than being in artist in the music industry to be honest. I've seen about 3 movies he's acted in, and was quite surprised, but he did a very, good job with the characters he played. He's ok as an artist,, but no MJ, and I don't think we will ever get artists like we had back in the 70s/80s that brought in 'new sounds'. I remember artists like Prince, Blondie, Tears for Fears, Cameo, Rick James, the whole British invasion, etc. bringing in new sounds.



Most music styles in the '00s, seem to be sampled. More like electronica-pop has taken over all the radio stations. The imusic industry seems to just push artists like Rihanna, Beyonce, JT, and still try their best to push Britney Spears, but now even Britney is struggling to stay relevant. The industry has no choice but to put their money into what they think is the next big thing. Sadly, there are so many, independent artists that have major talent, but ignored by the music industry, if they don't have a particular look. Also, many independent artists either don't have enough resources to promote their talent or the know-how to do it.





Dude is a NON factor in the music business.



yeah now that he's dead MJ isn't a factor anymore neutral




I want to know if you live in tellus/planet earth? Seriously. Tell me how MJ isnt a factor anymore? He is still as relevant as ever, for instance he is always cited in songs by mainstream and non-mainstream music acts. Actors and famous people constantly make comments about him and the influence/impact he had in their life. His music is still talked about by musicians, singers, instrumentalists, sound engineers etc. I can go on but I don't think I need to. Enough said.
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Reply #93 posted 03/22/13 3:00pm

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Lawd when the word Jackson comes up it's like saying candyman 5 times you know bad shit is coming.

Pistols sounded like "Fuck off," wheras The Clash sounded like "Fuck Off, but here's why.."- Thedigitialgardener

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Reply #94 posted 03/22/13 4:24pm

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Gunsnhalen said:

Lawd when the word Jackson comes up it's like saying candyman 5 times you know bad shit is coming.

lol lol

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Reply #95 posted 03/22/13 5:44pm

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aye..Justin is a supreme culture vulture and a p.a.b. for what he did to Janet..and isnt really bout shit..a manufucktured mickey mouse kid who's gets a lot by because of his color (u think SNL writers didnt save a lot of the good stuff for JT? oh)...

having said that

20/20 IS THE SHIT!

lol caint front

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Reply #96 posted 03/22/13 6:17pm

Gunsnhalen

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aye..Justin is a supreme culture vulture and a p.apbp for whathe did to Janet..and isnt really bout shit..a manufucktured mickey mouse kid who's gets a lot by because of his color (u think SNL writers didnt save a lot of the good stuff for JYT? oh)...

having said that

20/20 IS THE SHIT!

lol caint front

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Reply #97 posted 03/22/13 6:36pm

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The music industry needs to elevate a white boy to the top every decade and Michael Jackson ain't around no more! lol
When eye go 2 a Prince concert or related event it's all heart up in the house but when eye log onto this site and the miasma of bitchiness is completely overwhelming!
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Reply #98 posted 03/22/13 7:16pm

CynicKill

Michael

Stevie

Prince

Marvin

Sammy?

http://www.theatlantic.co...jr/274251/

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Reply #99 posted 03/22/13 7:47pm

Cuddles

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Reply #100 posted 03/22/13 10:06pm

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CynicKill said:

Michael

Stevie

Prince

Marvin

Sammy?

http://www.theatlantic.co...jr/274251/

whofarted

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Reply #101 posted 03/22/13 10:22pm

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http://www.theatlantic.co...jr/274251/

God Almighty, hell has frozen over. Lemme get my ice skates..

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Reply #102 posted 03/22/13 10:30pm

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NaughtyKitty said:

CynicKill said:

Michael

Stevie

Prince

Marvin

Sammy?

http://www.theatlantic.co...jr/274251/

whofarted


sad

One thing that really gets me about him is that he hasn't really CHANGED anything in the music industry. Legends set trends, they move their art form forward, they're DISTINCTIVE. There's nothing distinctive about JT -- if you were to impersonate him without actually playing one of his songs, the only way anyone would know who you were imitating would be if you walked around with a dick in a box. Which, fair enough, means he has something of a legacy as an actor, but as a musician/performer? Get the fuck out. Besides that, he sings through his fucking nose, he copies dance moves rather than innovates, he rips off Prince's style and then has the gall to mock his height. (And seriously, if he thought Prince's SexyBack comment was meant to insult him...that was pretty mild. You KNOW when Prince has an issue with you!) I've seen much better talent and more class than him at high school talent shows. (But oh yeah, those were predominantly black high schools, so God forbid those kids get any credit for their hard work and talent.)

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Reply #103 posted 03/22/13 10:40pm

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Also, to the person who said he has co-writing credits on every single one of his songs, that doesn't really mean much nowadays. Artists get their names put on their songs for business reasons. It doesn't necessarily mean he didn't help write all those songs, but I would doubt it -- the mere fact that he's on ALL of them raises my suspicions; even the most involved artists usually have one or two songs they didn't contribute to. My guess would be he contributes to most of his stuff, but not all of it. Also, there's nothing wrong with ocassionally letting somebody else write your music. Particularly for somebody like JT who's clearly not a terribly great songwriter, it might be a good idea for him to hand the reins over now and then. Also, by picking a songwriter or song that suits him particularly well he could show a knowledge of music (and humility) that he really hasn't shown thus far.

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And I see all of your creations as one perfect complex
No one less beautiful
Or more special than the next
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Reply #104 posted 03/22/13 11:05pm

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Arbwyth said:

Also, to the person who said he has co-writing credits on every single one of his songs, that doesn't really mean much nowadays. Artists get their names put on their songs for business reasons. It doesn't necessarily mean he didn't help write all those songs, but I would doubt it -- the mere fact that he's on ALL of them raises my suspicions; even the most involved artists usually have one or two songs they didn't contribute to. My guess would be he contributes to most of his stuff, but not all of it. Also, there's nothing wrong with ocassionally letting somebody else write your music. Particularly for somebody like JT who's clearly not a terribly great songwriter, it might be a good idea for him to hand the reins over now and then. Also, by picking a songwriter or song that suits him particularly well he could show a knowledge of music (and humility) that he really hasn't shown thus far.

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well that the whole industry cause Vadge, Janet, Brit Brit, and Beyone do the same thing.

as my favorite PSB once said. "Change a word, claim a third."

so dont get pissed off when someone you dont like is sucking the same tit as your wanna be divas.

The Most Important Thing In Life Is Sincerity....Once You Can Fake That, You Can Fake Anything.
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Reply #105 posted 03/23/13 1:13am

mjscarousal

lazycrockett said:

Arbwyth said:

Also, to the person who said he has co-writing credits on every single one of his songs, that doesn't really mean much nowadays. Artists get their names put on their songs for business reasons. It doesn't necessarily mean he didn't help write all those songs, but I would doubt it -- the mere fact that he's on ALL of them raises my suspicions; even the most involved artists usually have one or two songs they didn't contribute to. My guess would be he contributes to most of his stuff, but not all of it. Also, there's nothing wrong with ocassionally letting somebody else write your music. Particularly for somebody like JT who's clearly not a terribly great songwriter, it might be a good idea for him to hand the reins over now and then. Also, by picking a songwriter or song that suits him particularly well he could show a knowledge of music (and humility) that he really hasn't shown thus far.

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well that the whole industry cause Vadge, Janet, Brit Brit, and Beyone do the same thing.

as my favorite PSB once said. "Change a word, claim a third."

so dont get pissed off when someone you dont like is sucking the same tit as your wanna be divas.

Beyonce steals writing credits.

Brittany is not a songwriter but doesnt steal credits. So her credits are probably because of minor reasons such as switching words around.

Janet is a lyrist and is involved in her songwriting process so lumping her with the other two is not fair.

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Reply #106 posted 03/23/13 7:55am

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mjscarousal said:

lazycrockett said:

well that the whole industry cause Vadge, Janet, Brit Brit, and Beyone do the same thing.

as my favorite PSB once said. "Change a word, claim a third."

so dont get pissed off when someone you dont like is sucking the same tit as your wanna be divas.

Beyonce steals writing credits.

Brittany is not a songwriter but doesnt steal credits. So her credits are probably because of minor reasons such as switching words around.

Janet is a lyrist and is involved in her songwriting process so lumping her with the other two is not fair.

Janet is more gifted than peeps give her credit for. She was writing & playing instruments on her muziq before Justin or Beyonce was even out of the wombs. Not to mention opening doors for both of them to do what they are doing today. She is a living multi billionaire icon now...

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Reply #107 posted 03/23/13 4:32pm

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LOL you weren't kidding were you?

People really have a problem with him. Just have a problem with his quality control personally and the fact that Suits is the only newer tune out right now that moves me (other than the awesome Atoms for Peace offering and until 3rdEye gets their proverbial thang together and hit us off something breezy and shining). bored2

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Reply #108 posted 03/23/13 4:49pm

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I still haven't listened to the album. Only seen SNL and the mirror video.
Not that important.
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Reply #109 posted 03/23/13 5:03pm

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JT ain't no talented

I respect his music and efforts to bring some good R&B

but he sucks when it comes to LIVE shows.

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Reply #110 posted 03/23/13 5:29pm

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Shawy89 said:

JT ain't no talented

I respect his music and efforts to bring some good R&B

but he sucks when it comes to LIVE shows.

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Reply #111 posted 03/23/13 8:45pm

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Cuddles said:



Terrib3Towel said:


Ok guys, let's forget about his new album and single right now. This has been on my mind for YEARS.



Why does the music industry continue to kiss Timerlake's ass? It's annoying.



My main issue is that his last album came out 6 fucking years ago, SIX. I remember when "Sexy Back" "What Goes Around..Comes Around" and "My Love" had first come out. I'm not gonna like, they were nice songs and I liked them. But why the hell does the radio still play them like they came out fucking yesterday? They were ok songs, but nothing great. The songs I just mentioned plus "Rock Your Body" and "Cry Me a River" are on regular rotation. WHY?



As soon as I heard about him working on a new album I KNEW the radio would play the hell out of singles even if they sucked. And I'm sorry, but Suit and Tie is hot ass. The only part I like on it is Jay-Z's verse.



He has an extremely annoying high-pitched voice, his voice has no kind of dept or range. And he can't dance, he might have a little bit of rhythm but he is NOT a natural dancer and he's very stiff in the hips. These are FACTS.



So what's the damn obsession? My only guess is that he is a white guy doing more R&B-type music, which makes him special. Kind of like Michael McDonald/Doobie Brothers. This type of thing isn't new in the music industry. I've noticed that throughout music history when a artist does music outside of their "norm" they get a lot more exposure. Like a Female (Chaka) or white people (AWB) doing funk music in the 70s, for example. But STILL timberlake is mediocre as hell to me. Nothing special about him.



Oh, and his acting SUCKS. Who the hell gave him those roles? Dude is TRASH on the big screen. It's sad how decent actors/actresses wait years for their big break and this asshole gets big film roles form the jump? Why? Are people really rushing to the theatres for a Justin Timberlake film? REALLY?



Oh yeah, and his SNL skits were ass. razz



I don't get the hype. His album will probably debut and #1 and stay there for 5 weeks. Big fucking whoop. Half those sales will be the record label anyway.



You guys know me by now, I don't give a shit about who the media hypes up nor do I give a shit about 95% of what's on Hip-Hop/R&B radio today. But it has always baffled me why JT is always regarded as so great. WTF has he even done? Dude has always been "just ok" for me. Just another Beyonce, Rihanna, Gaga, Britney, Katy Perry or Ke$ha to me.



OK, rant over. lol



don't listen to the shit, people who listen to realmusic don't listen to any of the shit you just posted in your rant.


Lol, exactly. This place is just as bad as Facebook.
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Reply #112 posted 03/24/13 12:20am

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Cuddles said:

Shawy89 said:

JT ain't no talented

I respect his music and efforts to bring some good R&B

but he sucks when it comes to LIVE shows.

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