Cuddles said:

mjscarousal said:

Ohhh c'monnn

But nobody is calling Aretha Franklin a musical genius, she is legendary for different reasons besides that.

The media is hyping Justin like his freakin Stevie Wonder.

genius isn't part of the equation, Pop star? Possible.

A pop star is the outcome of money interests backing a project.

I just think calling him a genius is bullshit.... I am just simply responding to the article.

mjscarousal said:

Cuddles said:

genius isn't part of the equation, Pop star? Possible.

A pop star is the outcome of money interests backing a project.

I just think calling him a genius is bullshit.... I am just simply responding to the article.

genius might be better suited to Mozart or people who create movie scores.

mjscarousal said:

Cuddles said:

thats what made Aretha Franklin

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BrazilianOnRaspberryBeret said:

mjscarousal said:

Ohhh c'monnn

But nobody is calling Aretha Franklin a musical genius, she is legendary for different reasons besides that.

The media is hyping Justin like his freakin Stevie Wonder.

Aretha Franklin made herself by producers and songwriters???

Is that what you said or I misread it?

Christ sake, Prince, Michael and Stevie are enough! Dont call Aretha to refer to Justin, PLEASE!

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If you heard Aretha's mid 60s to mid 70s albums you know she's a HELL OF A MUSICAL GENIUS. If you haven't, you don't know her.

BrazilianOnRaspberryBeret said:

If you heard Aretha's mid 60s to mid 70s albums you know she's a HELL OF A MUSICAL GENIUS. If you haven't, you don't know her.

I didnt bring up Aretha Franklin

Yall always try to bring up older artists to make excuses for these younger mediocre artists.

I wouldnt dare compare Justin to Aretha EVER

He's good, but mainly cause of his producers, and far from a king. I love dancing to his stuff, but would not go that far.

I think Justin Timberlake is the truth. I have no problems with someone making the

claim that he's the biggest male pop star of this generation. I think to place his

success entirely on the shoulders of his producers is to mean-spiritedly overlook his

talents as a writer, singer, dancer, instrumentalist and performer.

I was wondering when the over-the-top reviews were going to start pouring in. I also anticipated the comparisons to great soul and pop legends alike.

I know one thing for sure, RCA sure has spent a few stacks on his marketing and promotions campaign. Got damn! Between internet banners everywhere, those freakin Target commercials, one-hour CW television special, a week's stay w/Jimmy Fallon and who knows whatever else. His hype machine is working overtime.

First things first: his talent is undeniable. At 2, he was singing along to the radio. “Is anyone listening to him?” his uncle asked. “He’s singing f--king harmony parts!” Later, Timberlake locked himself in his room, switched off the lights, and listened to Queen’s “Bohemian Rhapsody” for 48 hours straight. “I’d only come out for food or water,” he recently recalled. “I wanted to dissect every part of it.”

I call bullshit on every part of the above.

duccichucka said:

I think Justin Timberlake is the truth. I have no problems with someone making the

claim that he's the biggest male pop star of this generation. I think to place his

success entirely on the shoulders of his producers is to mean-spiritedly overlook his

talents as a writer, singer, dancer, instrumentalist and performer.

Graycap23 said:

duccichucka said:

I think Justin Timberlake is the truth. I have no problems with someone making the

claim that he's the biggest male pop star of this generation. I think to place his

success entirely on the shoulders of his producers is to mean-spiritedly overlook his

talents as a writer, singer, dancer, instrumentalist and performer.

Ive realize now why this site is so shitty now and thats because the people here dont know a damn thing about music

mjscarousal said:

Graycap23 said:

Ive realize now why this site is so shitty now and thats because the people here dont know a damn thing about music

What's wrong with Justin Timberlake?!

Yo guys. JT is cool.

duccichucka said:

I never thought of hearing that from Jimi Hendrix.

smoothcriminal12 said:

Yo guys. JT is cool.

I never thought of hearing that from Jimi Hendrix.

BrazilianOnRaspberryBeret said:

smoothcriminal12 said:

Yo guys. JT is cool.

I never thought of hearing that from Jimi Hendrix.

Yeah well you know.

Graycap23 said:

duccichucka said:

What's wrong with Justin Timberlake?!

musically........what's right?

One critic, who gave the project a negative review, stated that it was impressive that the project sounds so expensive, because people don't make albums like that anymore.

But it was all for naught: "It sounds like the ambition of "Songs In The Key of Life" with the resolve of "Hotter Than July".

*Blasphemy for mentioning Wonder and Timberlake in the same sentence?

One things for sure, his band is HOT.

The star here is his live musical director/arranger, Adam Blackstone. He is the big fulla on the bass. If you needa pack maximum impact/excitement into a 10 minute set, he is the man for the job obviously!

Really, any number of people could've fronted that band playing that set and set it off.

CynicKill said:

One critic, who gave the project a negative review, stated that it was impressive that the project sounds so expensive, because people don't make albums like that anymore.

But it was all for naught: "It sounds like the ambition of "Songs In The Key of Life" with the resolve of "Hotter Than July".

*Blasphemy for mentioning Wonder and Timberlake in the same sentence?

I was going to mention that Eddie Murphy bit, about when you're starving and somebody offers you a cracker, that'll be the best damn cracker you ever eat in your life. I guess mainstream pop music is in such a dire state, so somebody makes a pop record with a little bit more to it than whats on the radio, it's perhaps given more props than it deserves in the scheme of things.

However, that's not a dig at JT, I haven't listened to the album yet.

CynicKill said:

But it was all for naught: "It sounds like the ambition of "Songs In The Key of Life" with the resolve of "Hotter Than July".

SONGS IN THE KEY OF LIFE? WTF? I LISTENED TO THE ALBUM. NOTHING ALIKE.

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His music has a lot of elements that are interesting and refer to the times when popular music was better in overall.

The problem is that his music also has too many elements that suck.

mjscarousal said:

Graycap23 said:

duccichucka said: musically........what's right?

I'm still waiting for y'all to explain to me what is wrong with Justin Timberlake. I like his

music and I would go pay money to see him perform live. One of my homeboys from

Berklee used to play in his band awhile ago and told me that Timberlake was an okay

dude.

I don't know what the big deal is about hating/disliking Justin Timberlake! Oh well!

nd33 said:

One things for sure, his band is HOT.

The star here is his live musical director/arranger, Adam Blackstone. He is the big fulla on the bass. If you needa pack maximum impact/excitement into a 10 minute set, he is the man for the job obviously!

Really, any number of people could've fronted that band playing that set and set it off.

Thanks fer posting this!

Them negros in the band were giggin'!

duccichucka said:

mjscarousal said:

I'm still waiting for y'all to explain to me what is wrong with Justin Timberlake. I like his

music and I would go pay money to see him perform live. One of my homeboys from

Berklee used to play in his band awhile ago and told me that Timberlake was an okay

dude.

I don't know what the big deal is about hating/disliking Justin Timberlake! Oh well!

Justin is fake as hell and the promotion is too much, perhaps that's why people dislike him? I keep seeing articles about him everywhere I go... Just today I've seen an article on his dancing and how he is the best dancer of this generation.... blah...

Justin isnt a really good singer, never was and never will be, he's average at best. His dancing never impressed me, not even when I was a kid (like many other in their early 20s, we grew up with Justin) hmm, his best productions were made by Pharell & Chad, to me they were the creative force behind Justin and the ones who changed his image to what we know today... I wonder what would have happened, if those songs that were given to Justin would have been given to MJ...

GoldDolphin said:

duccichucka said:

I'm still waiting for y'all to explain to me what is wrong with Justin Timberlake. I like his

music and I would go pay money to see him perform live. One of my homeboys from

Berklee used to play in his band awhile ago and told me that Timberlake was an okay

dude.

I don't know what the big deal is about hating/disliking Justin Timberlake! Oh well!

Justin is fake as hell and the promotion is too much, perhaps that's why people dislike him? I keep seeing articles about him everywhere I go... Just today I've seen an article on his dancing and how he is the best dancer of this generation.... blah...

Justin isnt a really good singer, never was and never will be, he's average at best. His dancing never impressed me, not even when I was a kid (like many other in their early 20s, we grew up with Justin) hmm, his best productions were made by Pharell & Chad, to me they were the creative force behind Justin and the ones who changed his image to what we know today... I wonder what would have happened, if those songs that were given to Justin would have been given to MJ...

Can you explain to me what "fake as hell" means and how Justin Timberlake is

consistently throughout his day, "fake as hell" and how that contributes to his music?

Can you then, for the sake of illumination, provide us with a male pop star of this

generation who is not "fake"?

Can you also explain why he's an average singer? This requires you explaining to us what

qualifies as "good" singing and what qualifies as "bad" singing. Please provide examples that

highlight both features of singing, just for the sake, again, of illumination. And can you give us the

rundown on what passes as quality dancing and why it is that Justin Timberlake fails

to meet those standards?

And finally, can you think of any other massive male pop star who had a career as a child singer/

entertainer; whose musical efforts were considered "meh" and "blah" before he finally

hooked up with certain estimable music producers who were just as integral to assisting

him in producing what is considered today as seminal music? I'll give you a hint:

His name rhymes with Schmichael Schmackson.

I'm looking forward to your response!

duccichucka said:

GoldDolphin said:

Justin is fake as hell and the promotion is too much, perhaps that's why people dislike him? I keep seeing articles about him everywhere I go... Just today I've seen an article on his dancing and how he is the best dancer of this generation.... blah...

Justin isnt a really good singer, never was and never will be, he's average at best. His dancing never impressed me, not even when I was a kid (like many other in their early 20s, we grew up with Justin) hmm, his best productions were made by Pharell & Chad, to me they were the creative force behind Justin and the ones who changed his image to what we know today... I wonder what would have happened, if those songs that were given to Justin would have been given to MJ...

Can you explain to me what "fake as hell" means and how Justin Timberlake is

consistently throughout his day, "fake as hell" and how that contributes to his music?

Can you then, for the sake of illumination, provide us with a male pop star of this

generation who is not "fake"?

Can you also explain why he's an average singer? This requires you explaining to us what

qualifies as "good" singing and what qualifies as "bad" singing. Please provide examples that

highlight both features of singing, just for the sake, again, of illumination. And can you give us the

rundown on what passes as quality dancing and why it is that Justin Timberlake fails

to meet those standards?

And finally, can you think of any other massive male pop star who had a career as a child singer/

entertainer; whose musical efforts were considered "meh" and "blah" before he finally

hooked up with certain estimable music producers who were just as integral to assisting

him in producing what is considered today as seminal music? I'll give you a hint:

His name rhymes with Schmichael Schmackson.

I'm looking forward to your response!

When I say he is fake as hell, I'm basing it on my perspective on fake, which is basically that his personality portrayed in the media isnt really who he is. This funny joker personality he tries to pull off doesn't work. While it doesn't contribute to his music, it deals with his image which in fact is part of an artists job. This is the same person who said he was going to quit doing music to become an actor and that he was done with music since he had done everything he could...

Well, I'm a music student and again this is the way I think, but since you want to know my opinion, I don't personally hear anything special in his voice. He is an average singer because his vocal timbre isn't really unique and there are other singers who have the same quality and color like his, he also strains his vocals quite often which makes it sound quite nasal. There's also no true passion in his vocals, like other singers but that's OK, it's more about personal preference. (I have to say that I do like listening to Justins music, but I just think he is overhyped!)

His dancing isn't great at all and he doesn't have the grace of a great dancer, nor is he innovative since most of his dance moves are borrowed from other great dancers (that's OK though, if you can pull it off)... I don't want to go in further on his dancing, since I haven't seen much of that lately, but looking back at his NSYNC days and early 00s dance moves, he was just another in the bunch, he didn't dance or move like Omarion(who btw isnt the best dancer either but to compare to another dancer in mainstream music).

To even compare Justin (if that's what you are doing) to the great king of pop, Michael Jackson (admired for his dancing by James Brown, Fred Astaire, Sammy Davis Jr etc) and for his vocal abilities (admired & respected by most Motown singers, 1000s of mainstream artists, Opera singers, Andrew LLoyd Webber, musical artists etc) is not fair at all to poor Justin lol. MJ's career wasn't considered "meh" or "blah" by anyone in the late 70s and there are a lot of news articles that called him "the prince of pop" before he even hooked up with Quincy. The group MJ was in (The Jacksons) were competing with other acts like Earth, Wind & Fire, The Commodors among others, so I dont think MJ was seen as "meh" at all...