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Reply #30 posted 03/19/13 6:35pm

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She looks quite insane...

Michelle Shocked enrages fans with onstage anti-gay rant

Former lefty favourite loses gig bookings after saying same-sex marriage will be 'downfall of civilisation'

Tuesday 19 March 2013 07.11 EDT

Michelle Shocked in 2005
Anti-gay rant … Michelle Shocked outrages fans in San Francisco. Photograph: Startraks Photo/Rex Features

Singer-songwriter Michelle Shocked has shocked fans after launching an anti-gay rant onstage in San Francisco on Sunday night. The singer – who became a favourite of leftwing music fans with early albums such as The Texas Campfire Tapes and Short Sharp Shocked, but who is now a born-again Christian – began telling the crowd her views of Proposition 8, California's legal definition of marriage being a union between a woman and a man.

"When they stop Prop 8 and force priests at gunpoint to marry gays, it will be the downfall of civilisation, and Jesus will come back," Shocked told the crowd at Yoshi's in San Francisco, before many of them reportedly walked out. "You are going to leave here and tell people, 'Michelle Shocked said God hates faggots.'"

The club's manager tried to end the show, but Shocked continued playing until venue staff pulled the plug and turned off the stage lights.

Shocked, 51, has been an alternative music icon since the late 80s and early 90s, when her raw sound and radical politics briefly caught the zeitgeist. Although she is from Texas, she was particularly successful in the UK, where three of her LPs reached the top 50. Though Shocked's popularity has waned, she has continued making music, describing herself as an "anarchist skateboard punk" and, for about two decades, a born-again Christian.

Audience members at Sunday's show were stunned by her remarks. "She said gay marriage would cause the end of the world," tweeted @anile02. "She's a total bigot and said so on stage," agreed @lisahubbert. "It was unreal. We had to leave." @TheGuapo said he felt like an "emotional hostage": "[she] went full hate speech".

Several venues – in Illinois, California, Oregon and Colorado – have now cancelled forthcoming shows.

Shocked has not directly responded to these developments, except to tweet: "Truth is leading to painful confrontation."

In a 2008 interview with the Dallas Voice, Shocked strongly denied rumours that she is a lesbian. "[But] what if we called you an 'honorary lesbian'?" asked the interviewer. "I would be honoured," she replied. Describing herself as a "devout practising Christian", she said she was still coming to terms with "bigotry" in the church. "According to my Bible, which I didn't write, homosexuality is immoral," she explained. "But homosexuality is no more less a sin than fornication. And I'm a fornicator with a capital F."

she looks like she has penis envy

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Reply #31 posted 03/19/13 6:46pm

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Captain Swing is still an amazing disc.

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Reply #32 posted 03/19/13 7:07pm

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Michelle Shocked is one of those names everyone is familiar with, but nobody's ever actually heard her music or could name you one of her songs without looking it up on Wikipedia.

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Reply #33 posted 03/19/13 7:13pm

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^Speak for yourself alot of lesbian and gays know who she is. She was quite popular back in the early 90's. That's why this tirade is so bizarre. She's alienating her base.

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Reply #34 posted 03/19/13 7:27pm

aardvark15

This was the first result when I typed her name on youtube

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Reply #35 posted 03/19/13 9:02pm

allsmutaside

beer Let me throw one back and say "goodbye love." She don't want to talk to me no how.

It really is a crazy sad thing considering the deep and inspirational shit she was putting out there back in the day - "Anchorage" alone!

Sinead came out shortly after Michelle back in the day. Oddly enough there is a symetry to each of their current states - mental health. I would not be suprised if there were a clinical diagnosis for Shocked as well. Fear, Crazy, and Christianity are not a pretty trio, but they always seem to get invited to the best parties together.

This song pulls my heart along when things get heavy. I will still listen to this song - she can't fucking have it back. It belongs to me now. Fuck that noise she is spewing now.

http://www.myspace.com/video/michelle-shocked/michelle-shocked-come-a-long-way-michelleshocked-com/106484903

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[Edited 3/19/13 21:22pm]

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Reply #36 posted 03/20/13 10:11am

JoeBala

lazycrockett said:

Captain Swing is still an amazing disc.

My favorite CD by her. I hope she makes things right, she is so talented. The cult that Is religion these days Is alarming. Yeah I said it.

Just Music-No Categories-Enjoy It!
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Reply #37 posted 03/20/13 10:22am

robertlove

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The Captain will now boycott all future Michelle Shocked CDs as soon as he can figure out who the hell she is.

lol

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Reply #38 posted 03/20/13 3:41pm

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errant said:

Michelle Shocked is one of those names everyone is familiar with, but nobody's ever actually heard her music or could name you one of her songs without looking it up on Wikipedia.

nod yeah,I have heard her name before but I don't know any of her songs.

Looks like she is now forced to cancel dates.What a mess!

Michelle Shocked's Anti-Gay Rant Leads to Canceled Tour Dates

Michelle Shocked's Anti-Gay Rant Leads to Canceled Tour Dates

She goes by the stage nameMichelle Shocked, but at the singer's concert in San Francisco on March 17, it was her fans who were left stunned when she went on an anti-gay tirade and was kicked offstage. Citing Old Testament verses from the Bible, the indie-folk artist and born-again Christian told the audience at Yoshi's that she hoped the courts would uphold Proposition 8, an amendment to the California state constitution that bans gay marriage.

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"When they stop Prop 8 and force priests at gunpoint to marry gays, it will be the downfall of civilization, and Jesus will come back," she reportedly said. "You can go on Twitter and say, 'Michelle Shocked says God hates f-gs.'"

At that point, much of the audience walked out and a club manager announced that Shocked's show was over. When she attempted to continue her set, staff at Yoshi's quite literally pulled the plug on her and turned off the stage lights.

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In the wake of the rant, 10 of the singer's 11 upcoming tour dates have been canceled, Billboardreports. "Many of you have reached out already following an ugly rant given by Michelle Shocked at her show in San Francisco last night," promoters of SPACE in Illinois posted on the venue's Facebook page on March 18. "After speaking with the promoter of that show about the nature of the remarks, it's clear that this is no longer a show we're willing to put our name on."

This is not the "Greener Side" singer's first anti-gay controversy. Though she told OutLines in 1990 that she had once had a relationship with a woman, her views on homosexuality began to change when she rediscovered religion.

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"There are some inconvenient truths that I'm now a born again, sanctified, saved-in-the-blood Christian," she told the Dallas Voice in 2008. "So much of what's said and done in the name of that Christianity is appalling. According to my Bible, which I didn't write, homosexuality is immoral. But homosexuality is no more or less a sin than fornication. And I'm a fornicator with a capital F."

A few years later, at the 2011 Wild Goose Festival, she was asked by an audience member about her views on the subject. "Who drafted me as a gay icon?" she replied. "You are looking at the world's greatest homophobe. Ask God what he thinks."

This article originally appeared on Usmagazine.com: Michelle Shocked's Anti-Gay Rant Leads to Canceled Tour Dates

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Reply #39 posted 03/20/13 3:44pm

SoulAlive

Damage control time lol

Michelle Shocked "Very Sorry" for "Misinterpreted" Anti-Gay Marriage Remarks

Michelle Shocked is speaking out days after she incited a mass walk-out at one of her concerts for what many believed to be remarks against gay marriage. During her rant, Shocked cited verses from the Old Testament condemning homosexuality and encouraged the crowd to go on Twitter "and say 'Michelle Shocked says God hates f---.'"

Shocked, 51, says that her remarks at a San Francisco concert on Sunday were misunderstood and that she was only saying that "some" religious followers believes that God hates homosexuals. "I do not, nor have I ever, said or believed that God hates homosexuals (or anyone else)," she said in a statement obtained by Spin. "When I said, 'Twitter that Michelle Shocked says 'God hates f------s,' I was predicting the absurd way my description of, my apology for, the intolerant would no doubt be misinterpreted."

Formerly gay alt-folk rock singer Michelle Shocked slams gay marriage during concert

Shocked continued: "And to those fans who are disappointed by what they've heard or think I said, I'm very sorry: I don't always express myself as clearly as I should. But don't believe everything you read on Facebook or Twitter. My view of homosexuality has changed not one iota. I judge not. And my statement equating [the] repeal of Prop 8 with the coming of the End Times was neither literal nor ironic: it was a description of how some folks - not me - feel about gay marriage."

Since her remarks on Sunday, 10 venues canceled upcoming concerts with Shocked. In her statement, Shocked also briefly addressed questions about her own sexuality, but said that that information was "irrelevant."

Shocked went onto say that her comments were not planned ahead of time. "But I am damn sorry. If I could repeat the evening, I would make a clearer distinction between a set of beliefs I abhor and my human sympathy for the folks who hold them," she said. "I say this not because I want to look better. I have no wish to hide my faults, and - clearly - I couldn't if I tried."

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Reply #40 posted 03/20/13 4:12pm

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lol Whoever compared her to Sinead is way off. This woman right here is waaaaaay more bi-polar lol

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Reply #41 posted 03/20/13 4:27pm

runphilrun

Lame ass back peddling. You said it, and now it's out there, so you reap what you sow. "I've been mistnterpreted".. bullshit.

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Reply #42 posted 03/20/13 8:21pm

CynicKill

It's possible.

Everything is misinterpreted these days and you have to be so direct with people in order for them to get any point.

Is that the case? I don't know and am not going to waste time piercing through it either.

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Reply #43 posted 03/21/13 6:45am

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biggrin at the lame ass back peddle. And I thought Prince was good at alienating his audience!
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Reply #44 posted 03/21/13 3:18pm

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purplethunder3121 said:

She looks quite insane...

Michelle Shocked enrages fans with onstage anti-gay rant

Former lefty favourite loses gig bookings after saying same-sex marriage will be 'downfall of civilisation'

Tuesday 19 March 2013 07.11 EDT

Michelle Shocked in 2005

I'm a devout Christian that believes in the Great Commandment.

I've also been what those in The Life refer to as a Fag Hag since bout age 16, and I am now 42.

I'm sorry, but in my estimation, Blanche here looks she just booked her ticket for Dinah Shore Weekend. bored2

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Reply #45 posted 03/21/13 3:28pm

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I read about this on Facebook and I also commented on it but then I read this very long interview which made me change my mind a bit:

http://www.leeaaron.com/j...-the-song/

Beware, it is a VERY long read, and, knowing that most orgers have the attention span of the fish in my fishtanks, I know most of you will probably fall asleep halfway through.... lol

Just scroll down to the end of the interview, that´s where it gets interesting. I´m not here to defend her, I didn´t even know who she was before I read about her on FB but it is important to consider the circumstances and her background (she is or was mentally unstable in the past, so I have mixed feelings about judging her behavior).

" I´d rather be a stank ass hoe because I´m not stupid. Oh my goodness! I got more drugs! I´m always funny dude...I´m hilarious! Are we gonna smoke?"
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Reply #46 posted 03/21/13 3:30pm

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I'm just tired of heterosexuals giving their opinion on homosexuals. We get it. You find gay sex gross. That's the bottom line, whether it's spoken or not!

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Reply #47 posted 03/21/13 5:08pm

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"I hope they bury ur old ideas the same time they bury U."

"That's when stars collide. When there's space for what u want, and ur heart is open wide."
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Reply #48 posted 03/21/13 9:57pm

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Ottensen said:

purplethunder3121 said:

Michelle Shocked in 2005

I'm sorry, but in my estimation, Blanche here looks she just booked her ticket for Dinah Shore Weekend. bored2

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Reply #49 posted 03/23/13 1:28pm

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nuts

"Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything." --Plato

https://youtu.be/CVwv9LZMah0
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Reply #50 posted 03/31/13 10:05am

SoulAlive

Singer Michelle Shocked sits in at canceled show

Singer Michelle Shocked stages sit in at canceled show in Calif. with tape across her mouth

<p> Alternative folk singer Michelle Shocked strums her guitar outside Moe’s Alley nightclub in Santa Cruz, Calif., Thursday, March 28, 2013, after her show was canceled because she made an anti-gay slur earlier this month. Shocked had her face covered and her mouth taped shut. She dressed in a white disposable safety suit and invited people to write on it. (AP Photo/Thomas Vincent Mendoza)

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Alternative folk singer Michelle Shocked strums her guitar outside Moe’s Alley nightclub in Santa Cruz, Calif., Thursday, March 28, 2013, after her show was canceled because she made an anti-gay slur earlier this month. Shocked had her face covered and her mouth taped shut. She dressed in a white disposable safety suit and invited people to write on it. (AP Photo/Thomas Vincent Mendoza)


SANTA CRUZ, Calif. (AP) -- Her show had been cancelled, but that didn't stop alternative folk and rock singer Michelle Shocked from showing up at a Santa Cruz nightclub where she staged a sit-in with tape across her mouth that read "Silenced By Fear."

Moe's Alley was one of several nightclubs that cancelled Shocked's gigs after she made what were considered anti-gay comments during a rambling outburst at a show earlier this month.

On Thursday evening, Moe's Alley owner Bill Welch had replaced her with two local bands that support gay rights, Beaver Fever and Frootie Flavors.

"We will not be bashing Michelle Shocked," he said. "Rather, we will celebrate music, diversity and send some healing Santa Cruz energy her way."

Sitting on the ground outside the venue and strumming her guitar, Shocked was largely ignored and refused to speak. She pointed to a sign inviting people to pick up a Sharpie marker and write on the white disposable safety suit she was wearing.

Earlier this week in an email to The Associated Press and other media, Shocked apologized and said her comments during the San Francisco show were misinterpreted.

"Of course the fault for that is completely my own, and I cannot and do not blame anyone for defending the gay community," she wrote.

On Thursday night, she posted signs that read "Does speech scare you that much?" and on her back she had scrawled "Gimme Wit, Not Spit."

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Reply #51 posted 03/31/13 11:33am

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"There's Nothing That The Proper Attitude Won't Render Funkable!"

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Reply #52 posted 04/01/13 12:57pm

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She'll just end up workin' at the K-Mart snackbar where she belongs next year when everyone stops buyin' her shit. smile

Hungry? Just look in the mirror and get fed up.
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Reply #53 posted 04/01/13 2:12pm

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She'll be lucky if people drop a few coins in her guitar case when she's playing on the street corner. razz

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Reply #54 posted 04/01/13 2:17pm

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smoothcriminal12 said:

Who?

THAT^ is my first question as well nod

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Reply #55 posted 04/01/13 2:22pm

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My second question: Is Michelle doing all of this as a sick April Fool's joke? hmmm

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Reply #56 posted 04/01/13 2:42pm

CynicKill

It's probably just the simple case of an artist audience not getting the artists sense of humor. In todays world you can't be cute, or subtle, or ironic and expect people to get that. You have to either be direct or tell the audience that you're being ironic.

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