LittleBLUECorvette said:

popgodazipa said:

Graycap23 said: BIG brought East Coast rap back. That whole Bad Boy movement was a game changing moment in hip hop. Definitely a top 10.

Wu Tang bought East Coast back the prevous year, big BIG had his part in it (as did Nas, Mobb Deep and Jay-Z like it or not)

Biggie was the most important part. Ready To D.I.E. and the hits from that album put the East Coast hip-hop back on the map as a creative AND commercial force. Ready To D.I.E. was a bigger hit commercially than Enter the 36 Chambers).

In the year after Ready To D.I.E, was released, there were a lot of albums in addition to Mobb Deep's The Infamous and Nas' Illmatic that contributed to the East Coast Renaissance.

Only Built For Cuban Linx, Raekwon (better than Enter The 36 Chambers or any Wu solo effort)

The Main Ingredient, Pete Rock & C.L. Smooth

Blowout Comb, Digable Planets

Hard To Earn, Gang Starr

The Sun Rises In The East, Jeru The Damaja

Intoxicated Demons, The Beatnuts

Tical, Method Man

Return To the 36 Chambers, ODB

Dare Iz A Darkside, Redman

NO DOUBT . . . the Wu contributed to the comeback -- as a group and as solo MCs -- but Biggie was the standard-bearer.

Even Biggie was part of the larger East Coast renaissance from '94 to '95, which may have even begun earlier than that, in '93, with albums from Black Moon, De La Soul, and Digable Planets. After that, Jay-Z laid the groundwork for his takeover.

Shango said:

jaimestarr79 said: but I can't believe a lot of you guys are sleepin on Guru from Gang starr.

He's not sleeped on and mentioned by namepeace in post #43

Here's my top 20 rappers/rap groups:

1) Nas

2) Rakim

3) Andre 3000/Outkast

4) Tribe

5) Big Daddy Kane

6) LL

7) Cube

8) Gangstarr

9) EPMD

10) D.O.C.

11) Kool Moe Dee

12) Too Short

13) Beasties

14) Redman

15) Tupac

16) Biggie

17) Wu Tang

18) Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five

19) Snoop

20) Jay Z

When I see these top XX list and no KRS-1 on them...............I just have 2 laugh.

namepeace said:

LittleBLUECorvette said:

Wu Tang bought East Coast back the prevous year, big BIG had his part in it (as did Nas, Mobb Deep and Jay-Z like it or not)

Biggie was the most important part. Ready To D.I.E. and the hits from that album put the East Coast hip-hop back on the map as a creative AND commercial force. Ready To D.I.E. was a bigger hit commercially than Enter the 36 Chambers).

In the year after Ready To D.I.E, was released, there were a lot of albums in addition to Mobb Deep's The Infamous and Nas' Illmatic that contributed to the East Coast Renaissance.

Only Built For Cuban Linx, Raekwon (better than Enter The 36 Chambers or any Wu solo effort)

The Main Ingredient, Pete Rock & C.L. Smooth

Blowout Comb, Digable Planets

Hard To Earn, Gang Starr

The Sun Rises In The East, Jeru The Damaja

Intoxicated Demons, The Beatnuts

Tical, Method Man

Return To the 36 Chambers, ODB

Dare Iz A Darkside, Redman

NO DOUBT . . . the Wu contributed to the comeback -- as a group and as solo MCs -- but Biggie was the standard-bearer.

Even Biggie was part of the larger East Coast renaissance from '94 to '95, which may have even begun earlier than that, in '93, with albums from Black Moon, De La Soul, and Digable Planets. After that, Jay-Z laid the groundwork for his takeover.

Musicslave said:

Somebody knows their history.

When you say, like I do, 1994 was the greatest year in hip-hop history, you have to . . .

namepeace said:

I went to a party one time and drove by a crowded crew in front of a club, where Gangstarr were about to perform, but it got cancelled. Some months later I was at a club when a few guys came in and told they had just visited a show of Digital Underground. Man, I would've wanted to see that gig.

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namepeace said:

Musicslave said:

Somebody knows their history.

When you say, like I do, 1994 was the greatest year in hip-hop history, you have to . . .

Although I have heard people say 1988 was a pretty good year too. I couldn't begin to list the releases from that year though.

Graycap23 said:

When I see these top XX list and no KRS-1 on them...............I just have 2 laugh.

Yea I agree

Shango said:

namepeace said:

I went to a party one time and drove by a crowded crew in front of a club, where Gangstarr were about to perform, but it got cancelled. Some months later I was at a club when a few guys came in and told they had just visited a show of Digital Underground. Man, I would've wanted to see that gig.

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Me too.

Best hip-hop show I ever went to was in '91:

PE

A Tribe Called Quest (right after they dropped Low End Theory)

Leaders Of The New School

Geto Boys (the year they released "Mind's Playing Tricks on Me")

Naughty By Nature (previewed a new jam called "Hip Hop Hooray")

MC Lyte

Killer show.

namepeace said: Me too.

Best hip-hop show I ever went to was in '91:

PE

A Tribe Called Quest (right after they dropped Low End Theory)

Leaders Of The New School

Geto Boys (the year they released "Mind's Playing Tricks on Me")

Naughty By Nature (previewed a new jam called "Hip Hop Hooray")

MC Lyte

Killer show.

Cool list I remember being at a record store during PE's hey days, and girl at the shop being hyped visiting an upcoming show. Once was outside a club for an eventually cancelled Snoop show and while still waiting a few guys told about a Geto Boys show they saw.

I already posted my top 10, here is 11-30.

11. Boogie Down Productions ft. KRS-One
12. A Tribe Called Quest
13. OutKast
14. Geto Boys ft. Scarface
15. Ice Cube
16. Kurtis Blow

17. Emenim
18. LL Cool J
19. Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five
20. EPMD (Erick Sermon & PMD)

21. Kool Moe Dee
22. De La Soul
23. Gang Starr
24. Snoop Doggy Dog
25. Fugees
26. Ice T
27. Busta Rhymes
28. DMX
29. Dr. Dre
30. Slick Rick

Shango said:

namepeace said: Me too.

Best hip-hop show I ever went to was in '91:

PE

A Tribe Called Quest (right after they dropped Low End Theory)

Leaders Of The New School

Geto Boys (the year they released "Mind's Playing Tricks on Me")

Naughty By Nature (previewed a new jam called "Hip Hop Hooray")

MC Lyte

Killer show.

Cool list I remember being at a record store during PE's hey days, and girl at the shop being hyped visiting an upcoming show. Once was outside a club for an eventually cancelled Snoop show and while still waiting a few guys told about a Geto Boys show they saw.

Yeah, hip-hop almost had a chitlin' circuit vibe, where artists would go on the road with everybody else.

Graycap23 said:

namepeace said:

Disagree. Slightly.

LL was a legit MC who happened to have the star power to "cross over," with platinum albums. Not just singles.

"Rock The Bells," "I Can't Live Without My Radio," "I'm Bad," "Jack The Ripper," "Goin' Back To Cali," etc. Those are legit hip-hop tracks.

Jay-Z is more of a crossover artist now than LL was in the 80s and early 90s.

So he didn't establish himself as a "commercial" hip-hop artist. He established himself as an MC who could sell records. Slight but significant distinction.

Not saying he lives on the same street as any of those MCs -- as long as Rakim draws breath he's the best -- but he lives in the same neighborhood.

Interesting. Rakim never moved me with his material. I'll take KRS1 all day long.

Rakim I think added a new dimension to MCing. KRS-ONE, to me, is the Magic Johnson of MCs -- he can do it all. A pure MC, far more prolific, but Rakim I think changed the game in terms of style, flow, artistry.

LL is My Favorite Rapper of all time!

Him & Marley Marl were Unstoppable!

EMPEROR101 said:

LL is My Favorite Rapper of all time!

Him & Marley Marl were Unstoppable!

LL & Marl = too funky! I got ya back.

spitty said:

EMPEROR101 said:

LL is My Favorite Rapper of all time!

Him & Marley Marl were Unstoppable!

LL & Marl = too funky! I got ya back.