who you got? Metal or grunge? More specifically 80's hair metal vs 90s grunge.

Examples for 80s hair metal: Motley Crue, Van Halen, KISS, Guns 'n' Roses

Examples for 90s grunge: Nirvana, Alice In Chains, Pearl Jam

Who's got ue vote?

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Mostly Grunge. Pearl Jam, Stone Temple Pilots, Soundgarden, Alice In Chains, Nirvana. Does The Smashing Pumpkins count? I like metal too but, I can only name a few.

Considering the span of "metal" goes back 45 years as opposed to a few years in the 90s, there is SO much more there.

I do like some of the famous grunge bands and loved some underground stuff that got lumped into it like Jesus Lizard and Mudhoney, but I'll take "broad church" of metal any day.

Lately been listening to Napalm Death, Pantera, Sabbath, Blue Oyster Cult, Zep, COC and Slayer.

if we're talking about HEAVY-METAL, then Metal hands down

if we're talking about Hair/Pop-Metal vs Grunge, then Grunge hands down

I love metal, certain subgenres of metal anyway. Metal is a much wider-reaching genre than grunge is. Like you could describe some Marilyn Manson and Nine Inch Nails as industrial-metal, and bands like Soulfly are tribal-metal.... you've even got emo-metal, I would describe a band like Killswitch Engage as being emo-metal..... Then you've got hair metal like Poison, then the original heavy metal guys like Sabbath and Judas Priest..... modern metal (nu-metal) like Slipknot, KoRn, etc...... Hell there's even ragga-metal which is metal mixed with dancehall/reggae, there's a band I love called Skindred that make that kind of music....

It's too wide a genre. I'd probably say overall I prefer grunge to any sub-genre of metal, but because there are more sub-genres of metal, there are more metal bands that I like than grunge bands..... does that make sense? lol

lets see both genres have inspired ear aching bands... Metal begat Nu Metal(korn,etc)

Grunge Begat Post-Grunge such as Nickleback, etc. ,mind you, i am aware that these are music critics invented names for music....

however metal has given us great bands such as My Dying Bride and Napalm Death.

Grunge has produced wonderful bands such as Alice In Chains..

I would go with....PUNK cause it made goth rock, just kidding, no but seriously. I like metal a bit more.

i like more of symphonic type metal. my favorite metal act is my dying bride.

Please don't get me started. This is a topic I feel very strongly about and am quite sensitive to .

Hair metal all the way, every day. Period!

Faster Pussycat

Warrant

Skid Row

Cinderella

Bullet Boys

LA Guns

Motley Crue

All did better music than any grunge artist, with the exception of Mother Love Bone.

As Joe said if it is against straight up Heavy Metal THAT would be tough.

As for this...

Hair Metal in retrospect is some fun music and good bands... great musicians!

Grunge is a lot deeper than Hair Metal though! if i had to pick i would go with grunge.

Because grunge artists wrote some great, passionate and inspired tunes that really came from the heart, where hair metal was all about either partying... or the love ballad.

That is the jist of every hair metal band right there minus some standouts like Cinderella.

Even cheesy ass bands like Poision & Warrant tried with ''Heaven'' and ''Something to Believe In''

Question for my metal fans... does this sound more like punk or metal? i mean its nether its actually visual kei, but what does it sound like more punk or metal?

sorry for going off topic...

My vote goes to metal and most (NOT all) of the sub-genres.

TheEmperorofFunk said:

who you got? Metal or grunge? More specifically 80's hair metal vs 90s grunge.

Examples for 80s hair metal: Motley Crue, Van Halen, KISS, Guns 'n' Roses

Examples for 90s grunge: Nirvana, Alice In Chains, Pearl Jam

Who's got ue vote?

since you edited the OP I'll answer again

grunge!!!

and I don't see GNR as hair-metal, more like trad-rock revivalists with some dual-guitar metallic attack

what

Why am I only allowed to choose between hair metal and grunge? That's like being forced to make a choice between getting syphilis and getting an ear infection.

The thread title is misleading. I won't play.

novabrkr said:

Why am I only allowed to choose between hair metal and grunge? That's like being forced to make a choice between getting syphilis and getting an ear infection.

The thread title is misleading. I won't play.

hair metal is not metal...

we knew that even in the eighties!

That's how Metallica and Slayer became popular without videos or radio airplay...

Then Metallica made the Black album and that was the end of them...

Oh yeah and KISS and VAN HALEN were the 70s!

What do they teach you kids these days?

Slave2daGroove said:

Oh yeah and KISS and VAN HALEN were the 70s!

What do they teach you kids these days?

sure the 70s is when they started but are you seriously claiming they shouldn't be counted even tho they made music throughout the 80s?

TheEmperorofFunk said:

Slave2daGroove said:

Oh yeah and KISS and VAN HALEN were the 70s!

What do they teach you kids these days?

sure the 70s is when they started but are you seriously claiming they shouldn't be counted even tho they made music throughout the 80s?

Van halen and KISS inspired the hair metal bands of the 80s like motley crue etc;

If I could only pick one it would probably be hair metal. I guess it depends on how exactly you define "grunge." I do like some grunge bands but I find them to be too serious and somber. If I have to choose between one extreme and the other I will go for the fun and carefree vibe of hair metal.

TheEmperorofFunk said:

TheEmperorofFunk said:

sure the 70s is when they started but are you seriously claiming they shouldn't be counted even tho they made music throughout the 80s?

Van halen and KISS inspired the hair metal bands of the 80s like motley crue etc;

But almost all pop metal bands were actually copying Motley Cure. Poison were actually THE prettier version of Motley Crue, except Bret Michaels more influenced by KISS' Paul Stanley than by the Crue's Vince Neil.

If it was hair metal vs grunge and I couldn't include Napalm Death and Sabbath on the metal side, then I'd pick grunge just because the Nirvana & Soundgarden albums are a lot closer to what I like than anything on the hair metal side. I couldn't get into that poofy hair stuff at all.

That said I'd rather hear an honest pop song like Nothin But A Good Time over something like Weiland with his baby oiled chest growling "I AM I AM I AM" about he wants to rape me. Both genres are responsible for some truly ludicrous moments and maybe the worst grunge offenders are worse than the worst hair metal offenders. But there are no hair metal albums I like as much as In Utero or Superunknown.

But almost all pop metal bands were actually copying Motley Cure.

Motley Cure? Hmmm Robert Smith and Nikki Sixx do kinda look alike!

Yeah the Crue are about the first one with that specific look and style I remember seeing around 1982, then suddenly by 1983 there was millions of them. There was a definite KISS influence on them all but Motley was probably the band they were directly taking stuff from.

Kiss weren't popular at all in '82 - the year The Elder came out. After they took the makeup off, in fact, they showed a Motley Crue influence when Paul Stanley's raps between songs became really X-rated and nasty.

Slave2daGroove said:

hair metal is not metal...

we knew that even in the eighties!

That's how Metallica and Slayer became popular without videos or radio airplay...

Then Metallica made the Load/Reload albums and that was the end of them...

preach!!!!

and fixed

TheEmperorofFunk said:

Slave2daGroove said:

Oh yeah and KISS and VAN HALEN were the 70s!

What do they teach you kids these days?

sure the 70s is when they started but are you seriously claiming they shouldn't be counted even tho they made music throughout the 80s?

That's when they were most popular.

Who they influenced is another thread all together.

JoeTyler said:

Slave2daGroove said:

hair metal is not metal...

we knew that even in the eighties!

That's how Metallica and Slayer became popular without videos or radio airplay...

Then Metallica made the Load/Reload albums and that was the end of them...

preach!!!!

and fixed

Slave2daGroove said:

TheEmperorofFunk said:

sure the 70s is when they started but are you seriously claiming they shouldn't be counted even tho they made music throughout the 80s?

That's when they were most popular.

Who they influenced is another thread all together.

I can kind of see limiting Kiss to being a "seventies band." That was inarguably their peak. An argument could be made that during the immediate post make-up years they were almost a new band. That band is very clearly an "eighties band."

Van Halen? They only released two albums in the seventies and had great success in the eighties. I think they can be described as an eighties band. I believe that 1984 was their best selling album (it was released in the eighties) and the Sammy Hagar years were definitely very eighties sounding.

Grunge sucked!!!!!!