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Reply #90 posted 03/01/13 12:38pm

Graycap23

namepeace said:

Graycap23 said:

Me either.

He is neither the GOAT many people make him out to be nor the middle-of-the-road MC others make him out to be.

He's a highly skilled MC. The timing was always right. Biggie and Pac died (Biggie arguably put him over).

He had 4 consecuritve producers who were at their peak at the time he hired them -- Swizz, Kanye Just Blaze and Neptunes. He built his Roc-A-Fella/Roc-A-Wear brand before he really became a crossover success. Cue "Dangerously In Love" and that's it.

But lyrically, he tapped out years ago. He's still catchy and clever but the basic story never changed. MjC has a point, but all that being said, it's easy to see how he's popular.

I hear that. I can't really discuss Jay-Z at that level as I don't listen enought 2 know.

When I listen 2 it.....I get bored after about 2 songs.

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Reply #91 posted 03/01/13 2:02pm

namepeace

Graycap23 said:

namepeace said:

He is neither the GOAT many people make him out to be nor the middle-of-the-road MC others make him out to be.

He's a highly skilled MC. The timing was always right. Biggie and Pac died (Biggie arguably put him over).

He had 4 consecuritve producers who were at their peak at the time he hired them -- Swizz, Kanye Just Blaze and Neptunes. He built his Roc-A-Fella/Roc-A-Wear brand before he really became a crossover success. Cue "Dangerously In Love" and that's it.

But lyrically, he tapped out years ago. He's still catchy and clever but the basic story never changed. MjC has a point, but all that being said, it's easy to see how he's popular.

I hear that. I can't really discuss Jay-Z at that level as I don't listen enought 2 know.

When I listen 2 it.....I get bored after about 2 songs.

I really think he should have stayed "retired" but can't knock the hustle.

He's been rapping about things he should have stopped rapping about 10 years ago.

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Reply #92 posted 03/01/13 4:02pm

Cinny

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SchlomoThaHomo said:

Maybe it's been mentioned but I feel like this rant was spun into something that it wasn't. I don't think he was dissing the song Suit & Tie or even Justin, he was dissing businessmen in the music/art world and using the title Suit & Tie as an analogy to them.

Totally. People need to actually watch this freestyle, not read it or just the headline.

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