missfee said:

Timmy84 said:

But you can tell he's lost his need to shock. After Taylor Swift, his rants became too predictable. He used to be hilarious.

Well I've said it before, I'll say it again, that man hasn't been right since his mom died. His rants before her death were hilarious, his rants after her death have been ridiculous. His music before her death was exhilarating, his music after her death has been hit or miss or just 100% excruciating. Now he's going to bring a kid into all this nonsense? I wish he would really take the damn blinders off his eyes and see where his life is heading these days.

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Agree 100%

Its really sad when you think about it...

Timmy84 said:

missfee said:

Well, it's sort of already happened. He got a reality TV broad with a money hungry mama knocked up. So when he and Kim break up (because they will, it's inevitable), she's going to take that man for every dime he has.

Yep.

The funny thing is that people may not realize or even wanna admit this, but that Kardashian Family and just Kim is worth more than KANYE can ever dream of, so if anyone is a Goldigga its his ass, she can buy and sell him like a new pair a shoes

lastdecember said:

mjscarousal said:

PREACH THE TRUTH!

However, his cred was gone when he started becoming best friends with Jay Z and released that Watch The Throne mess

The funny thing is he really lost cred with all the "nonsense" he did, whatever we attribute it too, personal loss which YES i understand, but there are alot that have lost close loved ones in the public eye and dont start jumping on stage and ripping awards from people, i mean shit, on one hand when he loses or doesnt get nominated he says the 'awards are meaningless" but when he is a presenter he thinks he knows what should win and suddenly awards have value. To be honest, straight up, he has talent, basically, but ALOT of things that draw you to what he creates, is the nonsense he does himself, he draws you into an album release by doing something stupid, to me thats not an artist.

That is true but in his defense, people react to situations and experiences differently.

Now, I dont think for one minute his behavior is ENTIRELY because of the passing of his mother although that situation has had a tremendous impact. I think a portion of his antics is just him and his way of dealing with his emotions.

He probably should have talked to a therapist (Maybe he did ).

concerning the grammy thing, Kanye is pissed because he never won the major grammy award which is record/album of the year

Militant said:

Good for Kanye. "Suit & Tie" is fucking garbage.

^ this!

I thought he was quite honest with this.

It's not about whether or not he makes money by making music and performing himself. It's about the corporate mentality that people have "adapted to" in the music business. People seem to think it's completely "normal" or even "necessary" that you try to squeeze as much profit as possible from what you do. Most artists used to operate under the mindset that once they'd have a few commercially successful projects they could stretch out and not continue to conform to the demands of the execs.

What's most unfortunate about it is that after a while people end up making exactly the type of music that they never wanted to make in the first place. Most artists that are not on Kanye's, Jay-Z's or JT's level are not really even seeing the money themselves. So often they've ended up selling out for nothing. They spent years working on their craft to even get a record deal - for what? To do something they didn't even intend to do.

novabrkr said:

I thought he was quite honest with this.

It's not about whether or not he makes money by making music and performing himself. It's about the corporate mentality that people have "adapted to" in the music business. People seem to think it's completely "normal" or even "necessary" that you try to squeeze as much profit as possible from what you do. Most artists used to operate under the mindset that once they'd have a few commercially successful projects they could stretch out and not continue to conform to the demands of the execs.

What's most unfortunate about it is that after a while people end up making exactly the type of music that they never wanted to make in the first place. Most artists that are not on Kanye's, Jay-Z's or JT's level are not really even seeing the money themselves. So often they've ended up selling out for nothing. They spent years working on their craft to even get a record deal - for what? To do something they didn't even intend to do.

Well then Kanye is speaking to the pot kettle black if that's the case.

It's about seeking the right balance and not jumping into every possibility for making more and more money.

That's how the music business has worked for decades. It's just that for most people today "doing things the way you want" has been turned into some sort of an unobtainable form of luxury.

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Then people have been doing it since the beginning of the industry and continue to do so so they can live off wealthier than we'll ever be. It's always said you can make money adapting to everything but lose (or not gain any) money being true to yourself. Kanye could've ranted about that in his sleep. He ain't saying nothing brand new. Like you didn't know that shit when you first got in the industry 14 years ago?

Honestly, I thought Kim had "softened up" Kanye since it had been a while since one of his "rants."

I guess not.

Gotta love Ms. West.

mjscarousal said:

HOL UP

Isnt this the same sell out who LAST YEAR did that bubble gum Watch The Throne shit with Jay Z????

Kanye is just mad because Hov did not ask him to do it

I dont like the song either but real talk....

Sell Outs need to keep quiet.

I know damn well Kanye is not trying to trash Suit and Tie when him and Jayz's Niggas in Paris, (a overrated water down gimmick rap song) ruled the air ways for nearly 2 years.

The pot calling the kettle black

And Kanye's just mad because Bey wouldn't make Kim her new BFF.

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

mjscarousal said:

HOL UP

Isnt this the same sell out who LAST YEAR did that bubble gum Watch The Throne shit with Jay Z????

Kanye is just mad because Hov did not ask him to do it

I dont like the song either but real talk....

Sell Outs need to keep quiet.

I know damn well Kanye is not trying to trash Suit and Tie when him and Jayz's Niggas in Paris, (a overrated water down gimmick rap song) ruled the air ways for nearly 2 years.

The pot calling the kettle black

And Kanye's just mad because Bey wouldn't make Kim her new BFF.

See what I mean? It's all about status. Kanye wasn't really concerned with the song. I'm surprised it took him THIS long to say anything. And yeah Niggas in Paris is one of the corniest rap songs of all time. So like I said, Kanye is talking to the pot kettle black.

Let's see.... Justin Timberlake and Jay-Z are talented musicians, respected businessmen, and both show an certain level of class you don't really see too often in ther music world today.

Kanye West knocked up Kim Kardashian.

I think its pretty clear who wins.

shorttrini said:

Let's see.... Justin Timberlake and Jay-Z are talented musicians, respected businessmen, and both show an certain level of class you don't really see too often in ther music world today.

Kanye West knocked up Kim Kardashian.

I think its pretty clear who wins.

Hahaha can't argue with you on that! Though I think Justin is far more talented than Jay lol

shorttrini said:

Let's see.... Justin Timberlake and Jay-Z are talented musicians, and both show an certain level of class you don't really see too often in ther music world today.

Okay you lost me..... how are they musicians when they have never played an instrument?

How are they classy?

A big bank account doesnt make you classy.

Timmy84 said:

shorttrini said:

Let's see.... Justin Timberlake and Jay-Z are talented musicians, respected businessmen, and both show an certain level of class you don't really see too often in ther music world today.

Kanye West knocked up Kim Kardashian.

I think its pretty clear who wins.

Hahaha can't argue with you on that! Though I think Justin is far more talented than Jay lol

You know something, to a certain extent you're right. The problem I have with Jay is, laziness. His album, "Kingdom Come" is a great example of this. That album is awful, because he "half-assed it". In my opinion it pales in comparision to Justin's weakiest album, which was "Love Sounds"....

shorttrini said:

Timmy84 said:

Hahaha can't argue with you on that! Though I think Justin is far more talented than Jay lol

You know something, to a certain extent you're right. The problem I have with Jay is, laziness. His album, "Kingdom Come" is a great example of this. That album is awful, because he "half-assed it". In my opinion it pales in comparision to Justin's weakiest album, which was "Love Sounds"....

Jay's best albums were Reasonable Doubt, Hard Knock Life and Blueprint. He's always been hit and miss. Justin was hungrier in Justified than he was in Love Sounds but I love some of the songs from that album too.

In that little rant of his, he also said, "I don't give a fuck what the President's got to say." Referring obviously to the two times that President Obama said, "He's a jackass."

Well, Kanye, when you stop acting like a jackass, the President of the United States wouldn't have to take the time out of all the important things he's got to do to address some reporter asking him about you, because you've been acting like a jackass. Jackass!

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

In that little rant of his, he also said, "I don't give a fuck what the President's got to say." Referring obviously to the two times that President Obama said, "He's a jackass."

Well, Kanye, when you stop acting like a jackass, the President of the United States wouldn't have to take the time out of all the important things he's got to do to address some reporter asking him about you, because you've been acting like a jackass. Jackass!

Justin and Jay-Z are both tools.

Kanye is a half-tool.

Of the three, Justin and Jay-Z have NEVER used their music for anything other than to entertain for money. Kanye is a blowhole but he has far more artistic integrity than both of the J's combined. Timberlake is a clown and Jay is a stereotype.

People have problem with Kanye as the messenger but often times the shit he says is on point.

Music is powerless because now its only used to sell you shit. Artists do have to beg corporations for sponsorship. And there was a time when nobody gave a fuck about what a President had to say because we all know that politicians will say whatever. Times haven't changed, people have just become more celebrity-obsessed than ever and our President is a celebrity.

Justin and Jay-Z are as vapid as they come. I can't get with that bullshit, either. It sounds like some reject Bobby Brown shit that he left on the studio floor in '92.

BlaqueKnight said:

Justin and Jay-Z are both tools.

Kanye is a half-tool.

Of the three, Justin and Jay-Z have NEVER used their music for anything other than to entertain for money. Kanye is a blowhole but he has far more artistic integrity than both of the J's combined. Timberlake is a clown and Jay is a stereotype.

People have problem with Kanye as the messenger but often times the shit he says is on point.

Music is powerless because now its only used to sell you shit. Artists do have to beg corporations for sponsorship. And there was a time when nobody gave a fuck about what a President had to say because we all know that politicians will say whatever. Times haven't changed, people have just become more celebrity-obsessed than ever and our President is a celebrity.

Justin and Jay-Z are as vapid as they come. I can't get with that bullshit, either. It sounds like some reject Bobby Brown shit that he left on the studio floor in '92.

My issue is not what he said because he was on point BUT he is a hyprocrite.

It doesnt matter if he is more talented than J and Justin.

Dont get on no self righteous kick when your doing the very thing your bashing. Niggas in Paris is one of the most overrated rap songs in history that he collabed with JAY Z with so all his real music crap... is bullshit.

I do agree with your opinion that our society is celebrity obsessed. I also agree with your opinion on the President being a celebrity which I find annoying as well. I ALSO agree with your comments on how people should not give a crap what the President opinion is on a matter and just because he is the President doesnt really mean anything but most celebrities are image cautious, phooney and people pleasers. I agree with your overall point but Kanye is a phooney himself.

Like I said, he's a half-tool.

The difference is that he has moments of artistic clarity.

The "J's" do not.

Jay-Z has been one of the biggest product pimps of all time and I have said this about him ever since he came on the scene.

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BlaqueKnight said:

Justin and Jay-Z are both tools.

Kanye is a half-tool.

Of the three, Justin and Jay-Z have NEVER used their music for anything other than to entertain for money. Kanye is a blowhole but he has far more artistic integrity than both of the J's combined. Timberlake is a clown and Jay is a stereotype.

People have problem with Kanye as the messenger but often times the shit he says is on point.

Music is powerless because now its only used to sell you shit. Artists do have to beg corporations for sponsorship. And there was a time when nobody gave a fuck about what a President had to say because we all know that politicians will say whatever. Times haven't changed, people have just become more celebrity-obsessed than ever and our President is a celebrity.

Justin and Jay-Z are as vapid as they come. I can't get with that bullshit, either. It sounds like some reject Bobby Brown shit that he left on the studio floor in '92.

Considering Ye's own commercialism along the way, I can appreciate that you regarded him as a "half-tool". I agree about his integrity. You don't write and produce the majority of his catalog and not have some artistic integrity. He's done his share of vanity projects lately though...i.e. "Watch The Throne" and his mixtape.

I wouldn't be surprised if his next solo album brings back the "artistic integrity" Kanye.

BlaqueKnight said:

Like I said, he's a half-tool.

The difference is that he has moments of artistic clarity.

The "J's" do not.

Jay-Z has been one of the biggest product pimps of all time and I have said this about him ever since he came on the scene.

[Edited 2/25/13 12:03pm]

This goes all the way back when he was pushing Cristol for free in his rhymes.

Kanye needs to get shunned again

I know that sounds terrible but after the Swift incident when everyone including the president dissed him he went into isolation...

Remember he was on Jay Leno crying and just became a shut in for months?

Well after the he did MBDTF and did it with little hype... he needs to do that thing again.

I have hope he will shut his fucking mouth and just make some good music again

Until then he need's to take a huge L

Kanye is a jackass. No, I'm not saying that because President Obama said it. I'm saying that because I said before President Obama. I said it that night at the Grammy's before he did what he did to Taylor Swift. He was walking around with a half-gallon bottle of Hennesy, drinking it from the neck. Only a jackass could do that.

I understand that he's been messed up since his mother passed and I really felt compassion for him about that but he's been too busy being a jackass to deal with that for his own sake. Now he's gone head first, literally , into world of Kardashian. If he's got any integrity left (artistic or otherwise), he needs to start showing it or I'm afraid he's just going to end up being nothing more than the sad punchline of some very bad jokes.

Uh Kanye is a 100% tool lol

Love Kanye but we all know he should be the last person to criticize about turning talent into business. But forget what he said. I'm just so effing traumatized he's now referred to as "Kim K's baby daddy." I mean they make a cute couple and all but seriously, not a "talented producer",or even "the controversial rapper" anymore....now you're just KIM K'S BABY DADDY!! AHHH!!

KIM K'S BABY DADDY

KIM K'S BABY DADDY
KIM K'S BABY DADDY

KIM K'S BABY DADDY

KIM K'S BABY DADDY

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

Kanye is a jackass. No, I'm not saying that because President Obama said it. I'm saying that because I said before President Obama. I said it that night at the Grammy's before he did what he did to Taylor Swift. He was walking around with a half-gallon bottle of Hennesy, drinking it from the neck. Only a jackass could do that.

I understand that he's been messed up since his mother passed and I really felt compassion for him about that but he's been too busy being a jackass to deal with that for his own sake. Now he's gone head first, literally , into world of Kardashian. If he's got any integrity left (artistic or otherwise), he needs to start showing it or I'm afraid he's just going to end up being nothing more than the sad punchline of some very bad jokes.

Why do people keep saying that he's changed or messed up since his mom's passing? Remember what he used to say about him not winning enough awards ? Oh and remember his Gold Digger performance at the grammys lol? That was before his mother passed away. Personally I found him hilarious and entertaining. Yeah sure what he did at the VMA award wasn't exactly funny all the way but how long are people going to judge him for that. His latest solo album was still solid and got great reviews (though I wasn't personally a fan of it I still found it interesting....to me that's what's great about Kanye he's never boring to me ) I just can't wait for his next SOLO album lol