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Kanye West, Jay- Z

Kanye West has never been one to bite his tongue, but diss Jay-Z…that's a different story.

Putting the duo's 2011-2012 "Watch the Throne" tour to the side, the loquacious rapper hit the stage during his show in London Saturday andsounded off about Jay-Z and Justin Timberlake 's "Suit & Tie."

"I got love for Hov, but I ain't f--king with that 'Suit & Tie," Kim Kardashian 's baby daddy told the crowd as an instrumental "Clique" played in the background, which features him and Jay-Z.

And that was just the beginning of Kanye's rant about the music industry.

"I hate business people," West rapped, according to Billboard . "People get on the phone with me and tell me, 'What kind of business can you do, though? What type of business are you doing? What's the numbers? How much did you sell? What's the radio spins? How much shampoo can you sell with your face on it and sh-t. Remind me again why we in this sh-t. Can you remind me again why we in this sh-t? Since when [is] making music about getting rich? Since when was making art about getting rich?...Remind me again why we in this sh-t. Remind me again why the Grammys couldn't suck my d-ck."

Oh, yes, there was even more during the 10-minute rapped speech.

"Can I sell a drink for you, please?" West continued. "So you can help me put on a better show. Please corporations. Can you please support me? I swear I'm a nice ni--a now. I swear I'll put the pink polo back on. I swear to you. Please. Just for three million dollars. I need it so bad. I need a new pool in my backyard. I tell my fans your sh-t is cool. And if they believe in me they should also believe in you. What's my public rating now? Are they liking me again? They forgot about the whole Beyoncé thing right? Okay, cool."

Last week, Jay-Z and Timberlake officially announced that they will embark on a tour together, performing in 12 cities this summer.

Something tells us West won't be making an appearance.

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Good for Kanye. "Suit & Tie" is fucking garbage.

For once I partly agree with Kanye I'm surprised he criticized anything Jay-Z is a part of, considering how friendly they are, but maybe he feels it's ok because it's Timberfake's song.

Now for the rest of his verbal vomit: I doubt any of the entertainers in the biz, including him, would do what they do if the possibility of getting rich wasn't there Anyone can go act or sing or rap in a local club. Those people who aren't trying to get into the business are the ones who truly just care about performing and their craft. Anyone who is trying to be or is already in the entertainment BUSINESS (key word) wants to get RICH So Kanye can quit it with that BS

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Says the douche-nozzle rapper who rapped, "Step in Def-Jam building like I'm the shit/ Give me Fifty million or I'ma quit"...

Right, no, it's not about the money...

HOL UP

Isnt this the same sell out who LAST YEAR did that bubble gum Watch The Throne shit with Jay Z????

Kanye is just mad because Hov did not ask him to do it

I dont like the song either but real talk....

Sell Outs need to keep quiet.

I know damn well Kanye is not trying to trash Suit and Tie when him and Jayz's Niggas in Paris, (a overrated water down gimmick rap song) ruled the air ways for nearly 2 years.

The pot calling the kettle black

BUT timberlake isnt dragging him on tour with him, he decided, its interesting that people blame Timberlake on this, this is nothing more than JAYZ doing what his wife does all the time, jumps in the light of someone else. TO me timberlake is an idiot for bringing a distraction with HIM on tour, if you want to be taken seriously, the last thing to do is to take the biggest phony on tour with you, they do make a good couple, cause JT is a wanna be soul dude and JZ is a wanna be whatever is going on dude, who thinks he is this "streets" rapper of some sort. Its all a commercial move, in both of these guys genres no one is really touring and making a name for themselves as a live performing force or even a ticket draw. It will be interesting how this tour goes in markets for areas that are not JZ territory though.

I am a HUGE Kanye fan... but he is so full of fucking shit here that it hurts my soul

Knaye is a fucking business man and he basically sold out and started making plastic hip-hop starting with WTT.

the Kanye that made My Beautiful Dark Twisted fantasy & 808's was about getting a vision across... and it was a personal project that didn't need tons of hits.

But i can tell yeezy was hungry after that and wanted those huge sales and thus WTT came out and gave some of the most generic hip-hop Kanye could ever do.

And then he comes with shit about ''your girl trying to jerk me'' ''i put a middle finger at the world'' ''i'll let my crew bang errr her''

Now he is writting 4th grade rhymes in his 30's and making millions... and it's not about they money?

lastdecember said:

BUT timberlake isnt dragging him on tour with him, he decided, its interesting that people blame Timberlake on this, this is nothing more than JAYZ doing what his wife does all the time, jumps in the light of someone else. TO me timberlake is an idiot for bringing a distraction with HIM on tour, if you want to be taken seriously, the last thing to do is to take the biggest phony on tour with you, they do make a good couple, cause JT is a wanna be soul dude and JZ is a wanna be whatever is going on dude, who thinks he is this "streets" rapper of some sort. Its all a commercial move, in both of these guys genres no one is really touring and making a name for themselves as a live performing force or even a ticket draw. It will be interesting how this tour goes in markets for areas that are not JZ territory though.

Another excellent post!

JZ and his wife are the kind of people that will smile in your face but when it comes down to it their going to get theres regardless. Im not mad at anybody for trying to hustle but it comes across phooney and Im baffled that the celebrities that deal with them dont see that. This was a REALLY bad move on Justin's part because bringing Jay Z along distracts from HIS comeback. It shouldnt be about Jay Z. It should be ALL about Justin. Justin hasnt performed and made music for almost 7 years and Jay Z just finished touring LAST YEAR.

.. wait a minute didn't Kanye do that song with Katy Perry?

And he's dissing HOV for suit and tie? oh man...

I like the "Suit And Tie" song to me,it sounds better than most of the crap that Kanye comes up with

mjscarousal said:

lastdecember said:

BUT timberlake isnt dragging him on tour with him, he decided, its interesting that people blame Timberlake on this, this is nothing more than JAYZ doing what his wife does all the time, jumps in the light of someone else. TO me timberlake is an idiot for bringing a distraction with HIM on tour, if you want to be taken seriously, the last thing to do is to take the biggest phony on tour with you, they do make a good couple, cause JT is a wanna be soul dude and JZ is a wanna be whatever is going on dude, who thinks he is this "streets" rapper of some sort. Its all a commercial move, in both of these guys genres no one is really touring and making a name for themselves as a live performing force or even a ticket draw. It will be interesting how this tour goes in markets for areas that are not JZ territory though.

Another excellent post!

JZ and his wife are the kind of people that will smile in your face but when it comes down to it their going to get theres regardless. Im not mad at anybody for trying to hustle but it comes across phooney and Im baffled that the celebrities that deal with them dont see that. This was a REALLY bad move on Justin's part because bringing Jay Z along distracts from HIS comeback. It shouldnt be about Jay Z. It should be ALL about Justin. Justin hasnt performed and made music for almost 7 years and Jay Z just finished touring LAST YEAR.

Well I don't think that it's because celebs "don't see it"...I think the whole point of it all when it comes to collaborating with Jay or Bey is them dollar signs. The celebs figure, if they collab with either one of them, then it should be a guaranteed hit since they are "it" right now in the industry.

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SoulAlive said:

I like the "Suit And Tie" song to me,it sounds better than most of the crap that Kanye comes up with

If it was a matter of life and death and I had to choose between Suit and Tie and the entire Watch The Throne album.... I would choose Suit and Tie as well.

missfee said:

mjscarousal said:

Another excellent post!

JZ and his wife are the kind of people that will smile in your face but when it comes down to it their going to get theres regardless. Im not mad at anybody for trying to hustle but it comes across phooney and Im baffled that the celebrities that deal with them dont see that. This was a REALLY bad move on Justin's part because bringing Jay Z along distracts from HIS comeback. It shouldnt be about Jay Z. It should be ALL about Justin. Justin hasnt performed and made music for almost 7 years and Jay Z just finished touring LAST YEAR.

Well I don't think that it's because celebs "don't see it"...I think the whole point of it all when it comes to collaborating with Jay or Bey is them dollar signs. The celebs figure, if they collab with either one of them, then it should be a guaranteed hit since they are "it" right now in the industry.

[Edited 2/24/13 15:41pm]

I see your point. All together it just comes across as phooney to me on both sides but I guess all that doesnt matter since its about money.

Gone are the days of real artists.

mjscarousal said:

missfee said:

Well I don't think that it's because celebs "don't see it"...I think the whole point of it all when it comes to collaborating with Jay or Bey is them dollar signs. The celebs figure, if they collab with either one of them, then it should be a guaranteed hit since they are "it" right now in the industry.

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I see your point. All together it just comes across as phooney to me on both sides but I guess all that doesnt matter since its about money.

Gone are the days of real artists.

Well these collabos are actually rarely HITS, thats the interesting thing, some have been disasters, not so much tours but songs and albums together, Jay has been part of a few fiascos that made no money, not that he would tell. This is corporate dollars mainly, so many corps are gonna link into this shit there are going to be MORE logos of soft drinks, tv shows, clothing lines, etc...plastered all over you will forget you are at a show. SO it kind of bugs me when i hear people get on say...Bon Jovi and say "he is a corporate" guy/thinker. You wont see Bon Jovi latching up with Kiss and Motley and Poison to sell shows, or say Coldplay or something like that to bring in zillions, he can do it on his own. SO i get the whole $$$ payday thing, im just saying, it bothers me when someone "portrays" themselves one way like Jay does now, and then behind closed doors he is another way, sorry, lost respect for him ages ago, in every way.

RenHoek said:

Says the douche-nozzle rapper who rapped, "Step in Def-Jam building like I'm the shit/ Give me Fifty million or I'ma quit"...

Right, no, it's not about the money...

Gunsnhalen said:

.. wait a minute didn't Kanye do that song with Katy Perry?

And he's dissing HOV for suit and tie? oh man...

That was basically what I was thinking... he ain't got room to talk.

It was about time for another one of Kanye's rants.

MadamGoodnight said:

It was about time for another one of Kanye's rants.

I know right....he's been quiet for too long..I knew one was due.

missfee said:

MadamGoodnight said:

It was about time for another one of Kanye's rants.

I know right....he's been quiet for too long..I knew one was due.

But you can tell he's lost his need to shock. After Taylor Swift, his rants became too predictable. He used to be hilarious.

Timmy84 said:

missfee said:

I know right....he's been quiet for too long..I knew one was due.

But you can tell he's lost his need to shock. After Taylor Swift, his rants became too predictable. He used to be hilarious.

Basically because look who hes with, KIM K, who is the poster girl for doing nothing, so his cred is gone, pretty much everywhere, because this looks even more like a "Power COuple" (i hate that fucking term) battle, how long before Kanye and Bey go at it and then Jay takes a shot at Kim etc...then the kids get dragged in blah blah blah, cartoon characters at this point.

lastdecember said:

mjscarousal said:

I see your point. All together it just comes across as phooney to me on both sides but I guess all that doesnt matter since its about money.

Gone are the days of real artists.

Well these collabos are actually rarely HITS, thats the interesting thing, some have been disasters, not so much tours but songs and albums together, Jay has been part of a few fiascos that made no money, not that he would tell. This is corporate dollars mainly, so many corps are gonna link into this shit there are going to be MORE logos of soft drinks, tv shows, clothing lines, etc...plastered all over you will forget you are at a show. SO it kind of bugs me when i hear people get on say...Bon Jovi and say "he is a corporate" guy/thinker. You wont see Bon Jovi latching up with Kiss and Motley and Poison to sell shows, or say Coldplay or something like that to bring in zillions, he can do it on his own. SO i get the whole $$$ payday thing, im just saying, it bothers me when someone "portrays" themselves one way like Jay does now, and then behind closed doors he is another way, sorry, lost respect for him ages ago, in every way.

Best believe I feel you, Ive ALWAYS thought Jay Z was overrated, fake and wack just like his overrated wife.

lastdecember said:

Timmy84 said:

But you can tell he's lost his need to shock. After Taylor Swift, his rants became too predictable. He used to be hilarious.

Basically because look who hes with, KIM K, who is the poster girl for doing nothing, so his cred is gone, pretty much everywhere, because this looks even more like a "Power COuple" (i hate that fucking term) battle, how long before Kanye and Bey go at it and then Jay takes a shot at Kim etc...then the kids get dragged in blah blah blah, cartoon characters at this point.

Pretty much...

missfee said:

MadamGoodnight said:

It was about time for another one of Kanye's rants.

I know right....he's been quiet for too long..I knew one was due.

Dude just unravels! He couldn't hold it in any longer.

lastdecember said:

Timmy84 said:

But you can tell he's lost his need to shock. After Taylor Swift, his rants became too predictable. He used to be hilarious.

Basically because look who hes with, KIM K, who is the poster girl for doing nothing, so his cred is gone, pretty much everywhere, because this looks even more like a "Power COuple" (i hate that fucking term) battle, how long before Kanye and Bey go at it and then Jay takes a shot at Kim etc...then the kids get dragged in blah blah blah, cartoon characters at this point.

PREACH THE TRUTH!

However, his cred was gone when he started becoming best friends with Jay Z and released that Watch The Throne mess

Timmy84 said:

missfee said:

I know right....he's been quiet for too long..I knew one was due.

But you can tell he's lost his need to shock. After Taylor Swift, his rants became too predictable. He used to be hilarious.

Well I've said it before, I'll say it again, that man hasn't been right since his mom died. His rants before her death were hilarious, his rants after her death have been ridiculous. His music before her death was exhilarating, his music after her death has been hit or miss or just 100% excruciating. Now he's going to bring a kid into all this nonsense? I wish he would really take the damn blinders off his eyes and see where his life is heading these days.

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missfee said:

Timmy84 said:

But you can tell he's lost his need to shock. After Taylor Swift, his rants became too predictable. He used to be hilarious.

Well I've said it before, I'll say it again, that man hasn't been right since him mom died. His rants before her death were hilarious, his rants after her death have been ridiculous. His music before her death was exhilarating, his music after her death has been hit or miss or just 100% excruciating. Now he's going to bring a kid into all this nonsense? I wish he would really take the damn blinders off his eyes and see where his life is heading these days.

I agree. Or he's really gonna hurt his reputation and won't recover... I don't know why I always feel something really bad is gonna fuck with Kanye... just a strange hunch.

lastdecember said:

Timmy84 said:

But you can tell he's lost his need to shock. After Taylor Swift, his rants became too predictable. He used to be hilarious.

Basically because look who hes with, KIM K, who is the poster girl for doing nothing, so his cred is gone, pretty much everywhere, because this looks even more like a "Power COuple" (i hate that fucking term) battle, how long before Kanye and Bey go at it and then Jay takes a shot at Kim etc...then the kids get dragged in blah blah blah, cartoon characters at this point.

Truth. Now that will be messy, messy messy when it all comes unhinged.

Timmy84 said:

missfee said:

Well I've said it before, I'll say it again, that man hasn't been right since him mom died. His rants before her death were hilarious, his rants after her death have been ridiculous. His music before her death was exhilarating, his music after her death has been hit or miss or just 100% excruciating. Now he's going to bring a kid into all this nonsense? I wish he would really take the damn blinders off his eyes and see where his life is heading these days.

I agree. Or he's really gonna hurt his reputation and won't recover... I don't know why I always feel something really bad is gonna fuck with Kanye... just a strange hunch.

Well, it's sort of already happened. He got a reality TV broad with a money hungry mama knocked up. So when he and Kim break up (because they will, it's inevitable), she's going to take that man for every dime he has.

mjscarousal said:

lastdecember said:

Basically because look who hes with, KIM K, who is the poster girl for doing nothing, so his cred is gone, pretty much everywhere, because this looks even more like a "Power COuple" (i hate that fucking term) battle, how long before Kanye and Bey go at it and then Jay takes a shot at Kim etc...then the kids get dragged in blah blah blah, cartoon characters at this point.

PREACH THE TRUTH!

However, his cred was gone when he started becoming best friends with Jay Z and released that Watch The Throne mess

The funny thing is he really lost cred with all the "nonsense" he did, whatever we attribute it too, personal loss which YES i understand, but there are alot that have lost close loved ones in the public eye and dont start jumping on stage and ripping awards from people, i mean shit, on one hand when he loses or doesnt get nominated he says the 'awards are meaningless" but when he is a presenter he thinks he knows what should win and suddenly awards have value. To be honest, straight up, he has talent, basically, but ALOT of things that draw you to what he creates, is the nonsense he does himself, he draws you into an album release by doing something stupid, to me thats not an artist.

missfee said:

Timmy84 said:

I agree. Or he's really gonna hurt his reputation and won't recover... I don't know why I always feel something really bad is gonna fuck with Kanye... just a strange hunch.

Well, it's sort of already happened. He got a reality TV broad with a money hungry mama knocked up. So when he and Kim break up (because they will, it's inevitable), she's going to take that man for every dime he has.

Yep.