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I'd like to be in the middle of this

kimberly1 said:

TonyVanDam said:

CORRECTION: Busta Rhymes is THE only 100% straight one from those names you mention.

Eddie Murphy and his tranny hunting episodes are old news. And Eddie's bromances with Arsenio Hall & Johnny Gill are legendary. It might be kind of fair to mention Magic Johnson as well.

Everyone else you mention are definitely bi, regardless if they're out or on the down low.

Yes, I agree Busta is all MAN!! LOVE HIM!!

nobodies, questioning if someone is all man or not, being straight doesn't make a person all Man and gay less than a man

Musicslave said:

TonyVanDam said:

1. Queen Latifah will never do what Jodie Foster did and just admit it already. It seems that white lesbians (especially Ellen) can admit who they are whenever they are/were ready, while black lesbians are trying a lot harder to not say anything at all.

2. Beside the fact that Jada's bisexuality is no secret, her open marriage to Will is no secret neither. She still dreams about have a threesome with Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson. She already gave Will her blessing to dream about other women to bring in their circle.

3. Clive & Ray?!? Holy shit! If that was anything close to true, then I know for sure that Clive is very slick devil.

When did Jodie come out? I missed that one. You're right about Latifah. No matter how acceptable and common its becoming in the nation as a whole, Queen La won't ever come out. Her money (base) is rooted in the black community. The fallout for her would be more extreme and more costly than a Jodie or an Ellen. Hollywood wouldn't be quick to give a project the greenlight if they knew her base (black folks) were compromised. Nah, Dana ain't got nuthin to say.....

With Queen it would be she has her money (base) in much more than the black community, has big money in mainstream markets like CoverGirl and a lot of other areas that I think being a heterosexual woman is a given

RnBAmbassador said:

As for Prince, it was rumoured that he and Jerome from The Time had a thing going on.

vainandy said:

Men should be labeled gay if they're with men. It would stop a lot of the homophobia because the worst gay bashers are the ones who think they aren't gay just because they get their dick sucked by a man because a mouth is a mouth and it feels the same no matter whose sucking it. As for the women kissing and licking all over women in front of men, after I get through putting my red handprint across their naked ass for lowering themselves, they should get the label too. If a man wants to watch a woman eat another woman out, then he needs to be prepared to suck a dick also. Don't ask someone to sleep with their own sex if you're not prepared to do the same.

I don't think you've heard of that rumour. Because I don't believe it is a rumour. People only mess around with Prince & Jerome because of the UTCM bromance

I don't believe Prince is homosexual/bisexual. If Prince has had sex with men prior or during his fame, someone would have come out with it.

J

kitbradley said:

I'm glad he came out. It was very brave of him. At his age, he really didn't have to. He could have taken it to his grave. I bet he feels a lot better now that's it's not some big secret. When you tell the truth, it's very healing and cleanses your soul. Its good for younger people who are afraid to come out to see another respected man come out, who doesn't look like one of the characters from Rupaul's Drag race.

No it's not!!!

the guy is 80 and now he has dicided to come out?

So what's his message? Keep it secret for as long as you can?

This always makes me so angry. there is nothing brave about comming out of the closet at 80. He could have done that years ago, than it would be a positive message.

All those people keeping it a secret for years, what's the fucking deal about it?

^ Because he's trying to sell his book, like Tony said earlier.

RnBAmbassador said:

With all due respect to each his or her own in their opinion, I don't think there is a such thing asa "bi-sexual" per se`. I think there are people that do sex acts with either or, and they seek acceptance, mainly males form society because they said, "I am bi and not gay". In Clive Davis' case, where is the bi? He has been with males exclusively for the last 20 years, so what was he, or is he? Heterosexual to bi-sexual to homosexual all in an eighty year life span? I think not. I like the Kinsey Scale of human sexuality. In our society it is different fo females, so they are not really a part of what I am saying because their same sex meanderings are most accepted or tolerated, and Caucasians accept same sex things much better than Blacks. If a male has 5 sex acts with another male and 495 with a female and is Black, he is called "gay", not bi-sexual in the Black community. I think you sexuality is where your heart is. In most heterosexual Black men, you may get a homosexual act out of them for favors (record deals, car, rent paid, drugs, etc_ a/k/a trade, but you can't win their heart. If a dude likes snatch, he will stick with that, you can't change sexuality IMHO. Clive has been known to offer up perks for trade, ditto for Elton John, Puffy and Tevin. The men they did it with were not leading lifestyles of gay people. There is a difference between gay and homosexual in the technical sense - one is your sexuality and the other is your lifestyle. I have known gay people that have never had homosexual sex, mainly because of fear and being disowned by their family or religious values, bot they are on fire with desire. I do agree there can be gray areas, but the heart belongs to one or the other, the eros may say snatch or cock, LOL. Just my opinion.

What you're describing is an idea and practice known as "gay to get paid". Basically, a person who knows he/she is heterosexual, but by choice (OR by blackmail in most cases) do a homosexual act for money and/or rewards in general is only "gay to get paid".

The "director's couch" & the "record label exec's bed in the office" are being used for those puposes.

Timmy84 said:

^ Because he's trying to sell his book, like Tony said earlier.

excately, there's nothing brave about it

TonyVanDam said:

RnBAmbassador said:

With all due respect to each his or her own in their opinion, I don't think there is a such thing asa "bi-sexual" per se`. I think there are people that do sex acts with either or, and they seek acceptance, mainly males form society because they said, "I am bi and not gay". In Clive Davis' case, where is the bi? He has been with males exclusively for the last 20 years, so what was he, or is he? Heterosexual to bi-sexual to homosexual all in an eighty year life span? I think not. I like the Kinsey Scale of human sexuality. In our society it is different fo females, so they are not really a part of what I am saying because their same sex meanderings are most accepted or tolerated, and Caucasians accept same sex things much better than Blacks. If a male has 5 sex acts with another male and 495 with a female and is Black, he is called "gay", not bi-sexual in the Black community. I think you sexuality is where your heart is. In most heterosexual Black men, you may get a homosexual act out of them for favors (record deals, car, rent paid, drugs, etc_ a/k/a trade, but you can't win their heart. If a dude likes snatch, he will stick with that, you can't change sexuality IMHO. Clive has been known to offer up perks for trade, ditto for Elton John, Puffy and Tevin. The men they did it with were not leading lifestyles of gay people. There is a difference between gay and homosexual in the technical sense - one is your sexuality and the other is your lifestyle. I have known gay people that have never had homosexual sex, mainly because of fear and being disowned by their family or religious values, bot they are on fire with desire. I do agree there can be gray areas, but the heart belongs to one or the other, the eros may say snatch or cock, LOL. Just my opinion.

What you're describing is an idea and practice known as "gay to get paid". Basically, a person who knows he/she is heterosexual, but by choice (OR by blackmail in most cases) do a homosexual act for money and/or rewards in general is only "gay to get paid".

The "director's couch" & the "record label exec's bed in the office" are being used for those puposes.

So that's basically prostitution you are speaking of? Why would record lables exec want this? when they can get whoever they want? lol... This probably happens, but I dont' think this is the norm.

kitbradley said:

TonyVanDam said:

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I really don't think this cover suggest any sexual connotation. If this were two women in the exact same pose, or much worse, people wouldn't question or think twice about it.

Look up the word, "Pederasty", and then you will finally understand the symbolism concerning the picture pose 50Cent & Soulja Boy were using.

SOURCE:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pederasty

http://en.wikipedia.org/w...References

http://en.wikipedia.org/w...er_reading

GoldDolphin said:

TonyVanDam said:

What you're describing is an idea and practice known as "gay to get paid". Basically, a person who knows he/she is heterosexual, but by choice (OR by blackmail in most cases) do a homosexual act for money and/or rewards in general is only "gay to get paid".

The "director's couch" & the "record label exec's bed in the office" are being used for those puposes.

So that's basically prostitution you are speaking of? Why would record lables exec want this? when they can get whoever they want? lol... This probably happens, but I dont' think this is the norm.

ANSWER: To have a far greater control of their recording artists, especially proteges.

And BTW, the words "mentor" & "protege" has their roots for back in the days when the Pederasty culture was practiced by some people in Ancient Greece.

Does anyone know if Clive Davis dares to mention the late, great Phyllis Hyman? He probably didn't feel she was "big enough", but just wondering...

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Sean Combs is gay?

please explain (somebody)

rdhull said:

Sean Combs is gay?

please explain (somebody)

Stymie said:

rdhull said:

Sean Combs is gay?

please explain (somebody)

lol Im serious.

Everybody always says that about him. Im wondering if its just some rumors based on supposed gaydar bullshit or if there are facts etc for those statements.

rdhull said:

Stymie said:

lol Im serious.

Everybody always says that about him. Im wondering if its just some rumors based on supposed gaydar bullshit or if there are facts etc for those statements.

I'm laughing because it's a rumor. One perpetrated here for years without proof.

I have to say it's nice to see the .org is still capable of generating a healthy debate on something.....

However some of your comments on paedophilia could be libellous.....who knows...

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TheFreakerFantastic said:

I have to say it's nice to see the .org is still capable of generating a healthy debate on something.....

However some of your comments on paedophilia could be libellous.....who knows...

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I'd hardly say it's healthy when people try to put bisexuals in a box they don't belong in. How is someone going to tell me differently when I've been bi most of my life?

Stymie said:

TheFreakerFantastic said:

I have to say it's nice to see the .org is still capable of generating a healthy debate on something.....

However some of your comments on paedophilia could be libellous.....who knows...

[Edited 2/21/13 11:09am]

I'd hardly say it's healthy when people try to put bisexuals in a box they don't belong in. How is someone going to tell me differently when I've been bi most of my life?

times a million...

Shard said:

Does anyone know if Clive Davis dares to mention the late, great Phyllis Hyman? He probably didn't feel she was "big enough", but just wondering...

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& Angela Bofill.

MadamGoodnight said:

Shard said:

Does anyone know if Clive Davis dares to mention the late, great Phyllis Hyman? He probably didn't feel she was "big enough", but just wondering...

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& Angela Bofill.

I doubt those two even got a footnote in his book. Especially Phyllis, since she became only the second female artist on Arista to have hits on that label before Dionne and Aretha joined... (Melissa Manchester being the first). Unless I'm wrong about that.

His book is already on store shelves. I'll try to thumb through a copy for any mention of Phyllis.

Clive Davis on 12 Smash Hits

1. Piece of My Heart by Big Brother and The Holding Company

Janis Joplin approved my edit of the over four minute album cut to release a single of Piece of My Heart. The single became a big hit record and helped drive the “Cheap Thrills” album to number one.

2. Mandy by Barry Manilow

The song I found that started it all. When Mandy became a number one hit, Barry gave me two spots on each future album to submit outside songs. It led to our wonderful creative partnership that’s endured all these years.

3. Everyday People by Sly and The Family Stone

Sly Stone was a true pioneer. His brand of funky R&B tinged with rock and blues and even jazz was to influence a whole generation of musicians and composers. Everyday People is a quintessential example of Sly’s genius.

4. All By Myself by Eric Carmen

I flew to Cleveland back in the day to meet Eric Carmen and hear the songs he wanted to launch his solo career after leaving the Raspberries. The first song he played for me was “All By Myself”. I was knocked out by the song and the performance. This was a potential classic if I ever heard one and so I signed Eric right away.

5. People Have The Power by Patti Smith

At the height of her fame, after the big hit of Because The Night, Patti Smith got married to Fred Smith and disappeared to Detroit to raise her family. Then, as suddenly as she vanished, she reappeared years later in 1988 ready to record the Dream of Life album that included her future anthem People Have The Power. Patti Smith still had the power and the song is now a classic.

6. All That She Wants by Ace of Base

I signed Ace of Base on the power and originality of their record “All That She Wants.” They responded to my urging them to write more and they came up with a first listen smash “The Sign” and then we submitted to them “Don’t Turn Around” but it was the striking “All That She Wants” that triggered the contract signing.

7. Freeway of Love by Aretha Franklin

I had arranged for Narada Michael Walden to collaborate with Aretha on her 1985 album “Who’s Zoomin’ Who?” It became Aretha’s first album to be certified platinum because Freeway of Love, co-written by Walden and featuring Clarence Clemons of the E Street Band on saxophone, became a huge crossover hit soaring to the top of the charts for Aretha.

8. Greatest Love of All by Whitney Houston

When I auditioned Whitney during her mother’s act in 1983, she was already singing The Greatest Love of All, a song I had personally commissioned for the 1987 Muhammad Ali Biopic, The Greatest, for which Arista had the soundtrack album. I was stunned by Whitney’s performance, deep, expressive, soulful and emotional. She was finding meaning in the lyrics and melody that the composers, Michael Masser and Linda Creed, might not even have felt when they wrote it

.

9. Smooth by Santana

When my A&R man Peter Ganbarg and I received a pulsating track written by Itaal Shur, we immediately heard it as a candidate for Santana. I sent it to Matt Serletic (Matchbox Twenty’s producer) to play for Rob Thomas. We got back the perfect demo of “Smooth” with Rob singing. I played it for Carlos who literally jumped for joy and they immediately went into record what has turned out to be an all-time hit record.

10. If I Ain't Got You by Alicia Keys

Alicia Keys is a true renaissance young woman, writing, arranging, producing and performing. She writes standards and If I Ain’t Got You is one of her best, also winning for her a Grammy for Best Female R&B Vocal Performance.

11. They Can't Take That Away From Me by Rod Stewart

When Arnold Stiefel played for me what was to become the prototype for Rod Stewart’s first amazing Great American Songbook album I loved the concept but knew we’d have to work on arrangements for all but two songs. Richard Perry and Rod had totally captured “You Go To My Head” and “They Can’t Take That Away From Me.” Those two cuts were perfect and they went straight into Volume I of the forthcoming phenomenal album series that would top the world’s album charts for years to come.

12. Dance With My Father by Luther Vandross

My association with Luther is one of the highlights of my career. Knowing that his career could still soar, we joined together and the song “Dance with My Father” is the pinnacle of our relationship. What a tragedy that it became a standard and award winning song and performance after Luther suffered his stroke, but Luther did survive long enough to become aware that Dance with My Father would be for the ages.

Timmy84 said:

Stymie said:

I'd hardly say it's healthy when people try to put bisexuals in a box they don't belong in. How is someone going to tell me differently when I've been bi most of my life?

times a million...

Exactly guys....and you are raising that point making it a healthy debate....

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Some people I know that claim "bi-sexuality" fail to tell the females they have sex with males and vice-versa. A real bi would be open and upfront about their for unlawful carnal knowledge escpades. Keep it 100!

IJS

Timmy84 said:

Stymie said:

I'd hardly say it's healthy when people try to put bisexuals in a box they don't belong in. How is someone going to tell me differently when I've been bi most of my life?

times a million...

MadamGoodnight said:

Shard said:

Does anyone know if Clive Davis dares to mention the late, great Phyllis Hyman? He probably didn't feel she was "big enough", but just wondering...

.

& Angela Bofill.

He devoted only 2 pages to Phyllis and Angela (pages 256-257). He described Phyllis as strikingly attractive with a big, expressive voice. He wrote she was never happy with the 4 Top 20 albums she recorded on Buddha and neither was he.

Stymie said:

rdhull said:

lol Im serious.

Everybody always says that about him. Im wondering if its just some rumors based on supposed gaydar bullshit or if there are facts etc for those statements.

I'm laughing because it's a rumor. One perpetrated here for years without proof.

It was Wendy Williams who started the Puffy-is-gay rumor,back in the 90s when she had a radio show in New York.She implied that Puffy and Mase were "involved" with each other,which is the reason why Mase suddenly quit his career to become religious.It makes for interesting gossip,but I don't think that any of it is true She also made similiar claims about Missy Elliott and others.

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Identity said:

MadamGoodnight said:

& Angela Bofill.

He devoted only 2 pages to Phyllis and Angela (pages 256-257). He described Phyllis as strikingly attractive with a big, expressive voice. He wrote she was never happy with the 4 Top 20 albums she recorded on Buddha and neither was he.

thanks So I guess that means he glossed over any problems he had with Phyllis, except that they weren't happy with the songs they recorded together What did he say about Angela?

SoulAlive said:

Stymie said:

I'm laughing because it's a rumor. One perpetrated here for years without proof.

It was Wendy Williams who started the Puffy-is-gay rumor,back in the 90s when she had a radio show in New York.She implied that Puffy and Mase were "involved" with each other,which is the reason why Mase suddenly quit his career to become religious.It makes for interesting gossip,but I don't think that any of it is true She also made similiar claims about Missy Elliott and others.

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She also said that about Will Smith I mean when even he writes a diss track about you, you know you've hit a nerve

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Shard said:

Identity said:

It was Wendy Williams who started the Puffy-is-gay rumor,back in the 90s when she had a radio show in New York.She implied that Puffy and Mase were "involved" with each other,which is the reason why Mase suddenly quit his career to become religious.It makes for interesting gossip,but I don't think that any of it is true She also made similiar claims about Missy Elliott and others.

She also said that about Will Smith I mean when even he writes a diss track about you, you know you've hit a nerve

.

yep

Shard said: thanks So I guess that means he glossed over any problems he had with Phyllis, except that they weren't happy with the songs they recorded together What did he say about Angela?

Even less.