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Reply #60 posted 02/20/13 6:30am

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TonyVanDam said:

vainandy said:

I've never read anything about Prince fooling with guys either but I was right about old Silver Balls and I know I'm right about Prince too. lol

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hmmm

Here comes the brides....here comes the brides......

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Reply #61 posted 02/20/13 6:31am

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Tonyvandam said: Prince definitely enjoys getting banged while dressed as a nun.

lol lol lol !!!

fishslap I've never said THAT! no no no! But the picture with Clive does seen to hint that Clive definitely "wears the pant" in all of his professional & personal relationships with other men, Prince included.

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Reply #62 posted 02/20/13 6:32am

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babybugz said:

Aren't many posters on here gay?

Me and vainandy are straight just like Mick Jäger and David Bowie. We just sometimes like to have sex with our male friends :p

That's right. I'm not gay, I just like to suck dicks. evillol

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Reply #63 posted 02/20/13 6:36am

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TonyVanDam said:

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hmmm

Here comes the brides....here comes the brides......

Bride?!? I thought Prince was copying Mother Threasa! lol

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Reply #64 posted 02/20/13 6:38am

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kitbradley said:

Does anyone here need a building to fall on them in order to wake up and smell the coffee? This picture removes any doubt in my mind. Prince definately enjoys getting banged while dressed as a nun. lol If this were anyone else dressed in this get-up, everyone here would be saying he's gay. Unless it's for a Halloween party, no 100% straight man is going to dress like that, I don't give a rat's behind how eccentric he is.

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You are right, if any another man dressed this way they would be labeled as gay men... I think Prince is very feminine and is in touch with that side and has probably been with men (I know fans hate this idea) but if he has, who cares... But I don't think he's gay... It's interesting how it's "ok" for women to try to be with other women without being labeled lesbian but men automatically are gay if they are with men... I remember my ex would say that if a man kisses another man that made him gay, I don't think things like that define ones sexuality. I thought everyone knew Clive was gay/bi? Lol... He looks like a pedophile tho, kinda like that scary saville guy from BBC... :/

Men should be labeled gay if they're with men. It would stop a lot of the homophobia because the worst gay bashers are the ones who think they aren't gay just because they get their dick sucked by a man because a mouth is a mouth and it feels the same no matter whose sucking it. As for the women kissing and licking all over women in front of men, after I get through putting my red handprint across their naked ass for lowering themselves, they should get the label too. If a man wants to watch a woman eat another woman out, then he needs to be prepared to suck a dick also. Don't ask someone to sleep with their own sex if you're not prepared to do the same.

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Reply #65 posted 02/20/13 9:59am

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The word gay has a stigma attached to it in many circles of society, especially amongst African-Americans. To be in a sexual situation male to male is called gay by them, period. For females they get a pass, it is okay, mainly because of Biblical roots. The Bible, written by men, whom I would wager were sexists, never made mention of any sexual acts by females to females. It only in about 6 references blasted males for being with males, one famous line was, "If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them" (Leviticus 20:13)...I think that some males feel safe in saying they are bi-sexual, when if fact they are homosexual. Clive Davis never fooled anyone. Additionally there isa major difference between a sex act and one's sexuality and/or lifestyle. The genitalia can do the do, but that does not mean that is what one is attracted to. Except for Frank Ocean, no Black music person has ever admitted they were homosexual, and even Ocean tried to soften it as if he is bi-sexual, whatever that is. Even the lesbian Black celebs don't admit like MC Lyte, Queen Latifah, Jada Pinkett, Lalah Hathaway, etc. Perhaps Nona Hendryx did from LaBelle. Imagine if Tevin Campbell, Freddie Jackson, Ray Parker, Jr. (whom was rumoured to have slept with Clive Davis), Omarion and on and on were to come forth. As for Prince, it was rumoured that he and Jerome from The Time had a thing going on.

vainandy said:

GoldDolphin said:

kitbradley said: You are right, if any another man dressed this way they would be labeled as gay men... I think Prince is very feminine and is in touch with that side and has probably been with men (I know fans hate this idea) but if he has, who cares... But I don't think he's gay... It's interesting how it's "ok" for women to try to be with other women without being labeled lesbian but men automatically are gay if they are with men... I remember my ex would say that if a man kisses another man that made him gay, I don't think things like that define ones sexuality. I thought everyone knew Clive was gay/bi? Lol... He looks like a pedophile tho, kinda like that scary saville guy from BBC... :/

Men should be labeled gay if they're with men. It would stop a lot of the homophobia because the worst gay bashers are the ones who think they aren't gay just because they get their dick sucked by a man because a mouth is a mouth and it feels the same no matter whose sucking it. As for the women kissing and licking all over women in front of men, after I get through putting my red handprint across their naked ass for lowering themselves, they should get the label too. If a man wants to watch a woman eat another woman out, then he needs to be prepared to suck a dick also. Don't ask someone to sleep with their own sex if you're not prepared to do the same.

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Reply #66 posted 02/20/13 10:16am

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Bisexuality has been around just as long as homosexuality but I see some think it don't exist. That won't make homophobia go away. It'll just be biphobic but OK...

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Reply #67 posted 02/20/13 10:40am

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Bisexuality has been around just as long as homosexuality but I see some think it don't exist. That won't make homophobia go away. It'll just be biphobic but OK...

Yeah I like seeing it reduced to "whatever that is". neutral

I'm sorry but for those of you who are not bi, you really don't have any idea what you are talking about.

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Reply #68 posted 02/20/13 10:40am

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You sure about that Tony? I've been at DARP when Dallas would have women sometime "at the same damn time" in his studio. If there was some physical confrontation going on it would've been because Chilli cheated on Dallas with Usher.

It takes two to tango, no matter who f***ed up first. But if Dallas wasn't taken care of business at home with Chilli because he was too busy with other women, when why bother fighting Usher because he wanted Chilli and/or Chilli wanted him for a little while?

So much for having you cake and eat it too. :-|

The times that I recall of him with the women in the studio was years after the relationship with Chilli. Dallas didn't cheat on Chilli. Chilli cheated on him, just like Kim Porter did with Al B. Sure except she had a son with Al. What's funny is, Chilli still ended up reaping what she sowed because Ursher ended up cheating on her.

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Reply #69 posted 02/20/13 11:37am

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I have never met a male or female that equally loved, lusted or liked both sexes. The term bi-sexual is kind of like metrosexual, and I put both of them in the 'whatever that is' category.

Males that claim bi-sexuality let them go into a heterosexual crowd and say they are "bi" and watch how quickly they get called all the insult words for homosexuals. Once a male lays it down with a male in the Black community, they are labeled "gay" or the f-bombotherword, period.

If Clive Davis was so-called bi-sexual, then he would still deal with females, He claims the last 20 years are with males - so, where is the bi in that? I suggest gone bi-bi LOL

Timmy84 said:

Bisexuality has been around just as long as homosexuality but I see some think it don't exist. That won't make homophobia go away. It'll just be biphobic but OK...

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Reply #70 posted 02/20/13 1:04pm

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vainandy said:

GoldDolphin said:

kitbradley said: You are right, if any another man dressed this way they would be labeled as gay men... I think Prince is very feminine and is in touch with that side and has probably been with men (I know fans hate this idea) but if he has, who cares... But I don't think he's gay... It's interesting how it's "ok" for women to try to be with other women without being labeled lesbian but men automatically are gay if they are with men... I remember my ex would say that if a man kisses another man that made him gay, I don't think things like that define ones sexuality. I thought everyone knew Clive was gay/bi? Lol... He looks like a pedophile tho, kinda like that scary saville guy from BBC... :/

Men should be labeled gay if they're with men. It would stop a lot of the homophobia because the worst gay bashers are the ones who think they aren't gay just because they get their dick sucked by a man because a mouth is a mouth and it feels the same no matter whose sucking it. As for the women kissing and licking all over women in front of men, after I get through putting my red handprint across their naked ass for lowering themselves, they should get the label too. If a man wants to watch a woman eat another woman out, then he needs to be prepared to suck a dick also. Don't ask someone to sleep with their own sex if you're not prepared to do the same.

But Andy, girl-girl action on the dancefloor is as American as apple pie. If you banned it, then we'll have a much bigger problem with these straight male sexual hypocrites:

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Reply #71 posted 02/20/13 1:16pm

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The word gay has a stigma attached to it in many circles of society, especially amongst African-Americans. To be in a sexual situation male to male is called gay by them, period. For females they get a pass, it is okay, mainly because of Biblical roots. The Bible, written by men, whom I would wager were sexists, never made mention of any sexual acts by females to females. It only in about 6 references blasted males for being with males, one famous line was, "If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them" (Leviticus 20:13)...I think that some males feel safe in saying they are bi-sexual, when if fact they are homosexual. Clive Davis never fooled anyone. Additionally there isa major difference between a sex act and one's sexuality and/or lifestyle. The genitalia can do the do, but that does not mean that is what one is attracted to. Except for Frank Ocean, no Black music person has ever admitted they were homosexual, and even Ocean tried to soften it as if he is bi-sexual, whatever that is. Even the lesbian Black celebs don't admit like MC Lyte, Queen Latifah, Jada Pinkett, Lalah Hathaway, etc. Perhaps Nona Hendryx did from LaBelle. Imagine if Tevin Campbell, Freddie Jackson, Ray Parker, Jr. (whom was rumoured to have slept with Clive Davis), Omarion and on and on were to come forth. As for Prince, it was rumoured that he and Jerome from The Time had a thing going on.

1. Queen Latifah will never do what Jodie Foster did and just admit it already. It seems that white lesbians (especially Ellen) can admit who they are whenever they are/were ready, while black lesbians are trying a lot harder to not say anything at all.

2. Beside the fact that Jada's bisexuality is no secret, her open marriage to Will is no secret neither. She still dreams about have a threesome with Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson. She already gave Will her blessing to dream about other women to bring in their circle.

3. Clive & Ray?!? Holy shit! eek If that was anything close to true, then I know for sure that Clive is very slick devil.

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Reply #72 posted 02/20/13 1:20pm

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TonyVanDam said:

It takes two to tango, no matter who f***ed up first. But if Dallas wasn't taken care of business at home with Chilli because he was too busy with other women, when why bother fighting Usher because he wanted Chilli and/or Chilli wanted him for a little while?

So much for having you cake and eat it too. :-|

The times that I recall of him with the women in the studio was years after the relationship with Chilli. Dallas didn't cheat on Chilli. Chilli cheated on him, just like Kim Porter did with Al B. Sure except she had a son with Al. What's funny is, Chilli still ended up reaping what she sowed because Ursher ended up cheating on her.

Good point.

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Reply #73 posted 02/20/13 1:25pm

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I have never met a male or female that equally loved, lusted or liked both sexes. The term bi-sexual is kind of like metrosexual, and I put both of them in the 'whatever that is' category.

Males that claim bi-sexuality let them go into a heterosexual crowd and say they are "bi" and watch how quickly they get called all the insult words for homosexuals. Once a male lays it down with a male in the Black community, they are labeled "gay" or the f-bombotherword, period.

If Clive Davis was so-called bi-sexual, then he would still deal with females, He claims the last 20 years are with males - so, where is the bi in that? I suggest gone bi-bi LOL

A person's bisexuality does NOT and should NOT give him/her the license to cheat on both genders. If a person can not take being in a committed relationship serious, then they should stay very single until they are ready, if ever at all.

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Reply #74 posted 02/20/13 1:29pm

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The word gay has a stigma attached to it in many circles of society, especially amongst African-Americans. To be in a sexual situation male to male is called gay by them, period. For females they get a pass, it is okay, mainly because of Biblical roots. The Bible, written by men, whom I would wager were sexists, never made mention of any sexual acts by females to females. It only in about 6 references blasted males for being with males, one famous line was, "If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them" (Leviticus 20:13)...I think that some males feel safe in saying they are bi-sexual, when if fact they are homosexual. Clive Davis never fooled anyone. Additionally there isa major difference between a sex act and one's sexuality and/or lifestyle. The genitalia can do the do, but that does not mean that is what one is attracted to. Except for Frank Ocean, no Black music person has ever admitted they were homosexual, and even Ocean tried to soften it as if he is bi-sexual, whatever that is. Even the lesbian Black celebs don't admit like MC Lyte, Queen Latifah, Jada Pinkett, Lalah Hathaway, etc. Perhaps Nona Hendryx did from LaBelle. Imagine if Tevin Campbell, Freddie Jackson, Ray Parker, Jr. (whom was rumoured to have slept with Clive Davis), Omarion and on and on were to come forth. As for Prince, it was rumoured that he and Jerome from The Time had a thing going on.

1. Queen Latifah will never do what Jodie Foster did and just admit it already. It seems that white lesbians (especially Ellen) can admit who they are whenever they are/were ready, while black lesbians are trying a lot harder to not say anything at all.

2. Beside the fact that Jada's bisexuality is no secret, her open marriage to Will is no secret neither. She still dreams about have a threesome with Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson. She already gave Will her blessing to dream about other women to bring in their circle.

3. Clive & Ray?!? Holy shit! eek If that was anything close to true, then I know for sure that Clive is very slick devil.

eek When did Jodie come out? I missed that one. You're right about Latifah. No matter how acceptable and common its becoming in the nation as a whole, Queen La won't ever come out. Her money (base) is rooted in the black community. The fallout for her would be more extreme and more costly than a Jodie or an Ellen. Hollywood wouldn't be quick to give a project the greenlight if they knew her base (black folks) were compromised. Nah, Dana ain't got nuthin to say.....lol

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Reply #75 posted 02/20/13 1:34pm

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I have never met a male or female that equally loved, lusted or liked both sexes. The term bi-sexual is kind of like metrosexual, and I put both of them in the 'whatever that is' category.

Males that claim bi-sexuality let them go into a heterosexual crowd and say they are "bi" and watch how quickly they get called all the insult words for homosexuals. Once a male lays it down with a male in the Black community, they are labeled "gay" or the f-bombotherword, period.

If Clive Davis was so-called bi-sexual, then he would still deal with females, He claims the last 20 years are with males - so, where is the bi in that? I suggest gone bi-bi LOL

Timmy84 said:

Bisexuality has been around just as long as homosexuality but I see some think it don't exist. That won't make homophobia go away. It'll just be biphobic but OK...

So in your mind, you think a man or woman calling themselves bisexual is a front? Nah. See, with Clive, he's more suspect. But don't dismiss it (bisexuality). Plus there's not too many blacks who would call themselves bisexual much less gay, so don't get it twisted. lol

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Reply #76 posted 02/20/13 1:35pm

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I have never met a male or female that equally loved, lusted or liked both sexes. The term bi-sexual is kind of like metrosexual, and I put both of them in the 'whatever that is' category.

Males that claim bi-sexuality let them go into a heterosexual crowd and say they are "bi" and watch how quickly they get called all the insult words for homosexuals. Once a male lays it down with a male in the Black community, they are labeled "gay" or the f-bombotherword, period.

If Clive Davis was so-called bi-sexual, then he would still deal with females, He claims the last 20 years are with males - so, where is the bi in that? I suggest gone bi-bi LOL

A person's bisexuality does NOT and should NOT give him/her the license to cheat on both genders. If a person can not take being in a committed relationship serious, then they should stay very single until they are ready, if ever at all.

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Reply #77 posted 02/20/13 1:47pm

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I have never met a male or female that equally loved, lusted or liked both sexes.

I've dealt with a lot of bisexual men and it's been my experience the scale usually tips a little bit more on one side than the other. Most of the guys I've known, the scale tipped more on the female side, meaning they preferred females more but definately enjoyed the experience of being intimate with another dude. So, yes, no matter how much people don't want to admit it (especially when it comes to men), bi-sexuality definately does exist. It's not a cop-out. People are what they are. Sexuality is not always black & white. There's a lot of gray area. I think a bi-sexual man can choose be be in an exclusive relationship with a man but if he still enjoys the thought of male/female sex or enjoys watching it, he's bi-sexual, not gay. The thought of male/female sex would repulse most men who are truly gay.

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Reply #78 posted 02/20/13 1:56pm

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TonyVanDam said:

1. Queen Latifah will never do what Jodie Foster did and just admit it already. It seems that white lesbians (especially Ellen) can admit who they are whenever they are/were ready, while black lesbians are trying a lot harder to not say anything at all.

2. Beside the fact that Jada's bisexuality is no secret, her open marriage to Will is no secret neither. She still dreams about have a threesome with Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson. She already gave Will her blessing to dream about other women to bring in their circle.

3. Clive & Ray?!? Holy shit! eek If that was anything close to true, then I know for sure that Clive is very slick devil.

eek When did Jodie come out? I missed that one. You're right about Latifah. No matter how acceptable and common its becoming in the nation as a whole, Queen La won't ever come out. Her money (base) is rooted in the black community. The fallout for her would be more extreme and more costly than a Jodie or an Ellen. Hollywood wouldn't be quick to give a project the greenlight if they knew her base (black folks) were compromised. Nah, Dana ain't got nuthin to say.....lol

Jodie came out during the 2013 Golden Globe Awards show.

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Reply #79 posted 02/20/13 2:20pm

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I have never met a male or female that equally loved, lusted or liked both sexes.

I've dealt with a lot of bisexual men and it's been my experience the scale usually tips a little bit more on one side than the other. Most of the guys I've known, the scale tipped more on the female side, meaning they preferred females more but definately enjoyed the experience of being intimate with another dude. So, yes, no matter how much people don't want to admit it (especially when it comes to men), bi-sexuality definately does exist. It's not a cop-out. People are what they are. Sexuality is not always black & white. There's a lot of gray area. I think a bi-sexual man can choose be be in an exclusive relationship with a man but if he still enjoys the thought of male/female sex or enjoys watching it, he's bi-sexual, not gay. The thought of male/female sex would repulse most men who are truly gay.

LGBT & T

L = Lesbian Women

G = Gay Men

B = Bisexuals

T = Transgenders

&

T = Trysexuals

Yes, they do exist! nod A trysexual is a person who would consider trying (almost) any sexual idea once in order to understand his/her human sexuality and his/her limits.

I knew of the existence of trysexuals the moment that Tevin Campbell became the first celebrity to admit his then-trysexuality in an interview with Jamie Brown, editor of Sister 2 Sister magazine many years ago. Trysexuals exist within the adult entertainment industry and well as music, theater, & film industry on an underground level.

And yes, there are some secret societies (especially O.T.O.) that are tie-in to this as well, using this knowledge as a way of blackmailing people (EXAMPLE: director's couch, record label exec's bed in the office). But that's another Illuminati-related thread for another day.

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Reply #80 posted 02/20/13 3:28pm

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TonyVanDam said:

kitbradley said:

I've dealt with a lot of bisexual men and it's been my experience the scale usually tips a little bit more on one side than the other. Most of the guys I've known, the scale tipped more on the female side, meaning they preferred females more but definately enjoyed the experience of being intimate with another dude. So, yes, no matter how much people don't want to admit it (especially when it comes to men), bi-sexuality definately does exist. It's not a cop-out. People are what they are. Sexuality is not always black & white. There's a lot of gray area. I think a bi-sexual man can choose be be in an exclusive relationship with a man but if he still enjoys the thought of male/female sex or enjoys watching it, he's bi-sexual, not gay. The thought of male/female sex would repulse most men who are truly gay.

LGBT & T

L = Lesbian Women

G = Gay Men

B = Bisexuals

T = Transgenders

&

T = Trysexuals

Yes, they do exist! nod A trysexual is a person who would consider trying (almost) any sexual idea once in order to understand his/her human sexuality and his/her limits.

I knew of the existence of trysexuals the moment that Tevin Campbell became the first celebrity to admit his then-trysexuality in an interview with Jamie Brown, editor of Sister 2 Sister magazine many years ago. Trysexuals exist within the adult entertainment industry and well as music, theater, & film industry on an underground level.

And yes, there are some secret societies (especially O.T.O.) that are tie-in to this as well, using this knowledge as a way of blackmailing people (EXAMPLE: director's couch, record label exec's bed in the office). But that's another Illuminati-related thread for another day.

Theres 3 different things to me, One for Females there are Lesbians and then there are those Girls who pose for pictures kissing another Girl cause its cool, the difference 99% of the time the two girls kissing look like Rosa Acosta and Tammy Torres and "lesbians" look like Ron Acosta and Tom Torres. For guys its like Andrew Clay said there is no "bi sexual" you either suck _____ or U dont. Either way who cares at this point, really CLive Davis coming out is as relevant as George Takei coming out, did anyone really need to know this, not really its sells books at a time where no one is gonna buy a book a music executive, shit people dont even buy music.


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Reply #81 posted 02/20/13 4:20pm

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lastdecember said:

TonyVanDam said:

LGBT & T

L = Lesbian Women

G = Gay Men

B = Bisexuals

T = Transgenders

&

T = Trysexuals

Yes, they do exist! nod A trysexual is a person who would consider trying (almost) any sexual idea once in order to understand his/her human sexuality and his/her limits.

I knew of the existence of trysexuals the moment that Tevin Campbell became the first celebrity to admit his then-trysexuality in an interview with Jamie Brown, editor of Sister 2 Sister magazine many years ago. Trysexuals exist within the adult entertainment industry and well as music, theater, & film industry on an underground level.

And yes, there are some secret societies (especially O.T.O.) that are tie-in to this as well, using this knowledge as a way of blackmailing people (EXAMPLE: director's couch, record label exec's bed in the office). But that's another Illuminati-related thread for another day.

Theres 3 different things to me, One for Females there are Lesbians and then there are those Girls who pose for pictures kissing another Girl cause its cool, the difference 99% of the time the two girls kissing look like Rosa Acosta and Tammy Torres and "lesbians" look like Ron Acosta and Tom Torres. For guys its like Andrew Clay said there is no "bi sexual" you either suck _____ or U dont. Either way who cares at this point, really CLive Davis coming out is as relevant as George Takei coming out, did anyone really need to know this, not really its sells books at a time where no one is gonna buy a book a music executive, shit people dont even buy music.

It would have been too easily for Clive to keep his personal life to himself. Hell yeah, he wants his book to outsell Tommy Mottola's book. But Tommy & Clive are aware that most conspiracy researchers are on to the both of them in terms of how they have ready done business in the music industry over the years.

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Reply #82 posted 02/20/13 4:21pm

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lastdecember said:

Theres 3 different things to me, One for Females there are Lesbians and then there are those Girls who pose for pictures kissing another Girl cause its cool, the difference 99% of the time the two girls kissing look like Rosa Acosta and Tammy Torres and "lesbians" look like Ron Acosta and Tom Torres. For guys its like Andrew Clay said there is no "bi sexual" you either suck _____ or U dont. Either way who cares at this point, really CLive Davis coming out is as relevant as George Takei coming out, did anyone really need to know this, not really its sells books at a time where no one is gonna buy a book a music executive, shit people dont even buy music.

It would have been too easily for Clive to keep his personal life to himself. Hell yeah, he wants his book to outsell Tommy Mottola's book.

For real.

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With all due respect to each his or her own in their opinion, I don't think there is a such thing asa "bi-sexual" per se`. I think there are people that do sex acts with either or, and they seek acceptance, mainly males form society because they said, "I am bi and not gay". In Clive Davis' case, where is the bi? He has been with males exclusively for the last 20 years, so what was he, or is he? Heterosexual to bi-sexual to homosexual all in an eighty year life span? I think not. I like the Kinsey Scale of human sexuality. In our society it is different fo females, so they are not really a part of what I am saying because their same sex meanderings are most accepted or tolerated, and Caucasians accept same sex things much better than Blacks. If a male has 5 sex acts with another male and 495 with a female and is Black, he is called "gay", not bi-sexual in the Black community. I think you sexuality is where your heart is. In most heterosexual Black men, you may get a homosexual act out of them for favors (record deals, car, rent paid, drugs, etc_ a/k/a trade, but you can't win their heart. If a dude likes snatch, he will stick with that, you can't change sexuality IMHO. Clive has been known to offer up perks for trade, ditto for Elton John, Puffy and Tevin. The men they did it with were not leading lifestyles of gay people. There is a difference between gay and homosexual in the technical sense - one is your sexuality and the other is your lifestyle. I have known gay people that have never had homosexual sex, mainly because of fear and being disowned by their family or religious values, bot they are on fire with desire. I do agree there can be gray areas, but the heart belongs to one or the other, the eros may say snatch or cock, LOL. Just my opinion.

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I have never met a male or female that equally loved, lusted or liked both sexes. The term bi-sexual is kind of like metrosexual, and I put both of them in the 'whatever that is' category.

Males that claim bi-sexuality let them go into a heterosexual crowd and say they are "bi" and watch how quickly they get called all the insult words for homosexuals. Once a male lays it down with a male in the Black community, they are labeled "gay" or the f-bombotherword, period.

If Clive Davis was so-called bi-sexual, then he would still deal with females, He claims the last 20 years are with males - so, where is the bi in that? I suggest gone bi-bi LOL

So in your mind, you think a man or woman calling themselves bisexual is a front? Nah. See, with Clive, he's more suspect. But don't dismiss it (bisexuality). Plus there's not too many blacks who would call themselves bisexual much less gay, so don't get it twisted. lol

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Reply #84 posted 02/21/13 2:15am

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Never thought Clive Davis is gay.

Arsenio Hall on the other hand......

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Reply #85 posted 02/21/13 2:40am

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Dont trust this greedy man... why do people wait till people are gone to throw them under the bus :-

Im glad Kelly called his uppity ass out.

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Reply #86 posted 02/21/13 2:42am

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kitbradley said:

Does anyone here need a building to fall on them in order to wake up and smell the coffee? This picture removes any doubt in my mind. Prince definately enjoys getting banged while dressed as a nun. lol If this were anyone else dressed in this get-up, everyone here would be saying he's gay. Unless it's for a Halloween party, no 100% straight man is going to dress like that, I don't give a rat's behind how eccentric he is.

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You are right, if any another man dressed this way they would be labeled as gay men... I think Prince is very feminine and is in touch with that side and has probably been with men (I know fans hate this idea) but if he has, who cares... But I don't think he's gay... It's interesting how it's "ok" for women to try to be with other women without being labeled lesbian but men automatically are gay if they are with men... I remember my ex would say that if a man kisses another man that made him gay, I don't think things like that define ones sexuality. I thought everyone knew Clive was gay/bi? Lol... He looks like a pedophile tho, kinda like that scary saville guy from BBC... :/n

Ouch? I don't care people speculating celebs sexuality based on how they choose to present themselves but let's not say they look like they have mental problems or a possible criminal based on what they look like. That's how rumors start. I've seen probably at least 200+ people who were accused and convicted for committing criminal activities involving pedophilia and trust me, contrary to popular opinion they don't really have a certain "look" that distinguishes themselves from others most of the time lol

Anyways I don't believe it's any public figure's responsibility to make an announcement and reveal their sexuality so I don't think he did anything wrong not being bluntly obvious about it throughout the years. (..or maybe I was the only one who didn't notice, idk) Still, I'm rather happy for him that he's openly talking about it now than never.

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I really don't think this cover suggest any sexual connotation. If this were two women in the exact same pose, or much worse, people wouldn't question or think twice about it.

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Reply #88 posted 02/21/13 6:21am

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Emancipation89 said:

GoldDolphin said:

kitbradley said: You are right, if any another man dressed this way they would be labeled as gay men... I think Prince is very feminine and is in touch with that side and has probably been with men (I know fans hate this idea) but if he has, who cares... But I don't think he's gay... It's interesting how it's "ok" for women to try to be with other women without being labeled lesbian but men automatically are gay if they are with men... I remember my ex would say that if a man kisses another man that made him gay, I don't think things like that define ones sexuality. I thought everyone knew Clive was gay/bi? Lol... He looks like a pedophile tho, kinda like that scary saville guy from BBC... :/n

Ouch? I don't care people speculating celebs sexuality based on how they choose to present themselves but let's not say they look like they have mental problems or a possible criminal based on what they look like. That's how rumors start. I've seen probably at least 200+ people who were accused and convicted for committing criminal activities involving pedophilia and trust me, contrary to popular opinion they don't really have a certain "look" that distinguishes themselves from others most of the time lol

Anyways I don't believe it's any public figure's responsibility to make an announcement and reveal their sexuality so I don't think he did anything wrong not being bluntly obvious about it throughout the years. (..or maybe I was the only one who didn't notice, idk) Still, I'm rather happy for him that he's openly talking about it now than never.

I do agree that you shouldn't stereotype certain looks, but I've read about Clive and I've heard rumors about him liking young boys. Whether this is just rumors or any truth it to it, I just can't let it go like that. White men like Saville (and Clive Davis), have the money and the power behind them to hide all of their secrets and nobody would know untill they died, but had it been a person of color (black, asian, latino or native american) reporters would have done more research on it, because like they say where there's smoke there is fire(sometimes not always)...

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vainandy said:

GoldDolphin said:

kitbradley said: You are right, if any another man dressed this way they would be labeled as gay men... I think Prince is very feminine and is in touch with that side and has probably been with men (I know fans hate this idea) but if he has, who cares... But I don't think he's gay... It's interesting how it's "ok" for women to try to be with other women without being labeled lesbian but men automatically are gay if they are with men... I remember my ex would say that if a man kisses another man that made him gay, I don't think things like that define ones sexuality. I thought everyone knew Clive was gay/bi? Lol... He looks like a pedophile tho, kinda like that scary saville guy from BBC... :/

Men should be labeled gay if they're with men. It would stop a lot of the homophobia because the worst gay bashers are the ones who think they aren't gay just because they get their dick sucked by a man because a mouth is a mouth and it feels the same no matter whose sucking it. As for the women kissing and licking all over women in front of men, after I get through putting my red handprint across their naked ass for lowering themselves, they should get the label too. If a man wants to watch a woman eat another woman out, then he needs to be prepared to suck a dick also. Don't ask someone to sleep with their own sex if you're not prepared to do the same.

I don't completely agree with everything you say, but I understand you. I wish that more men were open with their sexuality and acknolwedge that they are either bisexual or gay, because you are totally right about those men being the worst gay bashers. It reminds me of something that happened to my bestfriend, whose friend was basically his boyfriend but now is with women and tells everyone he is 100 % straight when in fact we know that he isnt... But yeah, I think there's still a long way to go for men( and women) to admit they are gay but I think younger generations have it much easier. Also I totally agree with your last point, so true...

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