I. Cant. Take. No. More. Of. Missing. You.

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mjscarousal said:

I. Cant. Take. No. More. Of. Missing. You.

From my favorite album of her's...

I like the remix with the Chili Peppers better than the album version. I have it on a picture disc.

Mickey D thanks for remix! I still think the original is better . Ive always liked this song. Janets adlibs and some of the lyrics were kinda Ray Charles inspired. Like when she goes Hey Hey Hey thats what I say I thought that was so Ray Charles

mjscarousal said:

Mickey D thanks for remix! I still think the original is better . Ive always liked this song. Janets adlibs and some of the lyrics were kinda Ray Charles inspired. Like when she goes Hey Hey Hey thats what I say I thought that was so Ray Charles

Actually it's based on this song:

Aren't this and Black Cat the only songs where she has a sole writing credit (aside from the Rolling Stones sample of course)? Anyway I love it.

MickyDolenz said:

mjscarousal said:

Mickey D thanks for remix! I still think the original is better . Ive always liked this song. Janets adlibs and some of the lyrics were kinda Ray Charles inspired. Like when she goes Hey Hey Hey thats what I say I thought that was so Ray Charles

Actually it's based on this song:

OMG. So it's practically a straight up cover? How the hell does it say Written by Janet Jackson then? She should be sued!

Ellie said:

OMG. So it's practically a straight up cover? How the hell does it say Written by Janet Jackson then? She should be sued!

Wow! What a bummer. Since 20 years I'm loving that song and had no idea it was a cover. As for the songwriting, it does say Janet Jackson, Steve Cropper and Joe Shamwell and copyright 1967 and 1993. And all her songwriting is a couple of changed lines. That should have been pointed out on the CD.

Ellie said:

MickyDolenz said:

Actually it's based on this song:

OMG. So it's practically a straight up cover? How the hell does it say Written by Janet Jackson then? She should be sued!

It doesn't say that.

PatrickS77 said:

Ellie said:

OMG. So it's practically a straight up cover? How the hell does it say Written by Janet Jackson then? She should be sued!

Wow! What a bummer. Since 20 years I'm loving that song and had no idea it was a cover. As for the songwriting, it does say Janet Jackson, Steve Cropper and Joe Shamwell and copyright 1967 and 1993. And all her songwriting is a couple of changed lines. That should have been pointed out on the CD.

I haven't got immediate access to my CDs, but at the time of my Jackson loony years I studied those album credits. My copy really does say Written by Janet Jackson! I know I have an early copy as Whoops Now was later added as a proper track instead of being hidden after it was a single. My version is still hidden.

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aardvark15 said:

This is actually one of my least favorite Janet tracks

THIS. I'm a lifetime Janet stan but it's hard for me to sit through this one.

Ellie said:

PatrickS77 said:

Wow! What a bummer. Since 20 years I'm loving that song and had no idea it was a cover. As for the songwriting, it does say Janet Jackson, Steve Cropper and Joe Shamwell and copyright 1967 and 1993. And all her songwriting is a couple of changed lines. That should have been pointed out on the CD.

I haven't got immediate access to my CDs, but at the time of my Jackson loony years I studied those album credits. My copy really does say Written by Janet Jackson! I know I have an early copy as Whoops Now was later added as a proper track instead of being hidden after it was a single. My version is still hidden.

[Edited 2/10/13 7:18am]

I haven't looked at the credits in years either, but I believe it said it contained a sample from the original song. These are the writing credits for the song:

Madness. Utter madness, especially when she has turgid shit like The Body That Loves You on the same album.

daPrettyman said:

Ellie said:

I haven't got immediate access to my CDs, but at the time of my Jackson loony years I studied those album credits. My copy really does say Written by Janet Jackson! I know I have an early copy as Whoops Now was later added as a proper track instead of being hidden after it was a single. My version is still hidden.

[Edited 2/10/13 7:18am]

I haven't looked at the credits in years either, but I believe it said it contained a sample from the original song. These are the writing credits for the song:

Songwriter/Composer	Current Affiliation	CAE/IPI #
CROPPER STEVE	BMI	4102360
JACKSON JANET DAMITA JO	BMI	79045852
JAGGER MICHAEL PHILLIP	PRS	15036818
RICHARD KEITH	PRS	25957072
SHAMWELL JOE	BMI	63755856

I really wish Janet had grew as a songwriter. Her work with Jimmy/Terry is great but I just wish she experimented with writing more by herself.

I think she's more of a lyricist than a fully fledged songwriter.

Ellie said:

Ellie said:

I think she's more of a lyricist than a fully fledged songwriter.

Agree.

daPrettyman said:

I haven't looked at the credits in years either, but I believe it said it contained a sample from the original song. These are the writing credits for the song:

Songwriter/Composer	Current Affiliation	CAE/IPI #
CROPPER STEVE	BMI	4102360
JACKSON JANET DAMITA JO	BMI	79045852
JAGGER MICHAEL PHILLIP	PRS	15036818
RICHARD KEITH	PRS	25957072
SHAMWELL JOE	BMI	63755856

I have the original 2 CD version of the album that came in a book like cover and it has Janet, Steve, & Joe as songwriters. Jagger & Richards are only credited on the maxi single, which came out later. I wonder if it's like George Michael's Waiting For That Day which was originally credited only to George, but Mick & Keith sued and won. Later pressings had them added. But the Funky Drummer sample is still not credited and George released a VHS tape at the time where he demonstrated slowing down the Funky Drummer beat. Janet's earlier song Let's Wait Awhile is basically America's Daisy Jane with different lyrics, but Gerry Beckley who wrote Daisy Jane is not credited. On the Control album the songwriters are:

James Harris III

Terry Lewis

Janet Jackson

Melanie Andrews

MickyDolenz said:

daPrettyman said:

I haven't looked at the credits in years either, but I believe it said it contained a sample from the original song. These are the writing credits for the song:

Songwriter/Composer	Current Affiliation	CAE/IPI #
CROPPER STEVE	BMI	4102360
JACKSON JANET DAMITA JO	BMI	79045852
JAGGER MICHAEL PHILLIP	PRS	15036818
RICHARD KEITH	PRS	25957072
SHAMWELL JOE	BMI	63755856

I have the original 2 CD version of the album that came in a book like cover and it has Janet, Steve, & Joe as songwriters. Jagger & Richards are only credited on the maxi single, which came out later. I wonder if it's like George Michael's Waiting For That Day which was originally credited only to George, but Mick & Keith sued and won. Later pressings had them added. But the Funky Drummer sample is still not credited and George released a VHS tape at the time where he demonstrated slowing down the Funky Drummer beat. Janet's earlier song Let's Wait Awhile is basically America's Daisy Jane with different lyrics, but Gerry Beckley who wrote Daisy Jane is not credited. On the Control album the songwriters are:

James Harris III

Terry Lewis

Janet Jackson

Melanie Andrews

I didn't know about this. Thanks for posting. I can definitely hear the similarities.

Ellie said:

PatrickS77 said:

Wow! What a bummer. Since 20 years I'm loving that song and had no idea it was a cover. As for the songwriting, it does say Janet Jackson, Steve Cropper and Joe Shamwell and copyright 1967 and 1993. And all her songwriting is a couple of changed lines. That should have been pointed out on the CD.

I haven't got immediate access to my CDs, but at the time of my Jackson loony years I studied those album credits. My copy really does say Written by Janet Jackson! I know I have an early copy as Whoops Now was later added as a proper track instead of being hidden after it was a single. My version is still hidden.

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Yes! I also was under the impression that that song was the only one, besides Black Cat, where she had sole songwriting credit. But I checked my CD, the original one, and it mentions the writers I previously posted. Maybe that credit was on the single?

MickyDolenz said:

Janet's earlier song Let's Wait Awhile is basically America's Daisy Jane with different lyrics, but Gerry Beckley who wrote Daisy Jane is not credited. On the Control album the songwriters are:

James Harris III

Terry Lewis

Janet Jackson

Melanie Andrews

Yes, another huge disappointment... I found out about that one only a couple of months ago. There should be a law, that when a song is hugely based on another artists song, it should be mentioned in the booklet.

PatrickS77 said:

Yes, another huge disappointment... I found out about that one only a couple of months ago. There should be a law, that when a song is hugely based on another artists song, it should be mentioned in the booklet.

James Brown said in I'm Real "You better take my voice off your records til I'm paid in full".

PatrickS77 said:

MickyDolenz said:

Janet's earlier song Let's Wait Awhile is basically America's Daisy Jane with different lyrics, but Gerry Beckley who wrote Daisy Jane is not credited. On the Control album the songwriters are:

James Harris III

Terry Lewis

Janet Jackson

Melanie Andrews

Yes, another huge disappointment... I found out about that one only a couple of months ago. There should be a law, that when a song is hugely based on another artists song, it should be mentioned in the booklet.

As far as I know Black Cat is the only official song that she has written by herself.

She has a hidden track she has written by herself to.

This is kinda new to me as well. I did not know this was based off of another song.

mjscarousal said:

As far as I know Black Cat is the only official song that she has written by herself.

She has a hidden track she has written by herself to.

This is kinda new to me as well. I did not know this was based off of another song.

Both Black Cat and What'll I Do are produced by Jellybean Johnson and Janet. In the case of the Johnny Daye song, I think it's kinda like Whitney Houston who remade a lot of songs, but they were singles that were little known or album tracks, so people think Whitney put them out first.

MickyDolenz said:

daPrettyman said:

I haven't looked at the credits in years either, but I believe it said it contained a sample from the original song. These are the writing credits for the song:

Songwriter/Composer	Current Affiliation	CAE/IPI #
CROPPER STEVE	BMI	4102360
JACKSON JANET DAMITA JO	BMI	79045852
JAGGER MICHAEL PHILLIP	PRS	15036818
RICHARD KEITH	PRS	25957072
SHAMWELL JOE	BMI	63755856

I have the original 2 CD version of the album that came in a book like cover and it has Janet, Steve, & Joe as songwriters. Jagger & Richards are only credited on the maxi single, which came out later. I wonder if it's like George Michael's Waiting For That Day which was originally credited only to George, but Mick & Keith sued and won. Later pressings had them added. But the Funky Drummer sample is still not credited and George released a VHS tape at the time where he demonstrated slowing down the Funky Drummer beat. Janet's earlier song Let's Wait Awhile is basically America's Daisy Jane with different lyrics, but Gerry Beckley who wrote Daisy Jane is not credited. On the Control album the songwriters are:

James Harris III

Terry Lewis

Janet Jackson

Melanie Andrews

I have known about "Daisy Jane" for years. As a matter of fact, I remember laughing when "Let's Wait Awhile" came out, because I knew what she had done...

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I thought America sued Jam and Lewis over Let's Wait Awhile

and settled out of court in the mid eighties.

PatrickS77 said:

Ellie said:

I haven't got immediate access to my CDs, but at the time of my Jackson loony years I studied those album credits. My copy really does say Written by Janet Jackson! I know I have an early copy as Whoops Now was later added as a proper track instead of being hidden after it was a single. My version is still hidden.

[Edited 2/10/13 7:18am]

Yes! I also was under the impression that that song was the only one, besides Black Cat, where she had sole songwriting credit. But I checked my CD, the original one, and it mentions the writers I previously posted. Maybe that credit was on the single?

You guys are confusing this song with 'Whoops now'.

Janet has sole writing credits on ‘black cat’ and ‘whoops now’ - not ‘what'll I do’

I only learned a few months ago that 'what'll i do' was a fully-fledged cover was so disappointed.

Anyway the video kicks ass:

Ellie said:

Madness. Utter madness, especially when she has turgid shit like The Body That Loves You on the same album.

oi oi don't diss 'the body that loves you' – you’ve obviously not got freaky to it!

The perfect baby making song - beautiful, just beautiful

I always knew the song sounded 60's and recognized the Rolling Stones sample later on.

Also, I love that video. Wish it was a proper single in North America